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Cognitive dissonance with regards to diet

Answered on August 19, 2014
Created November 19, 2011 at 2:14 PM

After successfully shedding over 80 lbs of weight eating anything I wanted within a certain caloric budget, I've become enamored with the calories in/calories out mode of thought.

I've been reading paleo articles and doing a great deal of independent research, and the case against processed foods, wheat, etc. is definitely valid. However, sticking to a mostly-paleo diet hasn't really had many noticeable effects for me, and to be honest I was a hell of a lot more relaxed and happy about the variety of food choices available to me prior to adopting a grain-free lifestyle.

I'm constantly looking for ways to justify eating peanut butter, cinnamon toast crunch, and ice cream (some of my loves), and when I see so many thin/shredded (and most importantly happy) people doing so on a regular basis while just staying active, it's a hell of a struggle to abstain. I suppose I should also note that my doctor is begging me to gain weight (5'9", 126 lbs at the moment) and I've suffered (and still do) from some disordered eating patterns and behavior. I'm anemic as well (not iron-deficient though).

I guess I'm just looking for some consolation/support. Kinda pathetic.

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on July 03, 2012
at 04:24 PM

BRAVO!! Well Said.

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on December 21, 2011
at 02:40 PM

Hey bro, what kind of weight do you want to gain? If you want to gain muscle, google starting strength and have at it. If you want to gain fat, load up the cup boards with all that junk the supposedly shredded people eat all the time (bullsh*t) and have at it.

4145b36f1488224964edac6258b75aff

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on December 21, 2011
at 12:48 PM

Ok then you're not really a "thin" person. You're someone with a disease. I have Crohn's so even when I'm doing great I can't say, "now I'm a person without Crohn's I can eat what I want!" I understand that completely. But if you're just a run of the mill fat person who lost a bunch of weight and is now thin, you eventually need to start living like one.

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on December 21, 2011
at 12:46 AM

As someone who has struggled for over 10 years with weight issues due to metabolic dysfunction stemming from thyroid/adrenal issues I'm just now treating I have to say that you can't just "start thinking like a thin person". For a lot of people you have to continue to be extremely diligent and, to a point, obessive about what you eat to avoid rebounding. It sucks and I wish I never had to deal with this...but unfortunately it's a fact of life for some of us. You just try to find what balance you can within this paradigm.

518bce04b12cd77741237e1f61075194

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on December 20, 2011
at 10:44 PM

I agree about the "mental distress"- I used to have an ED, and now I feel like a different person. I never really discussed it with the people close to me, didn't take any medications, all I did was embrace food and allow it to heal me. Sound corny, but it was life changing and hit the "refresh" button on my life. Powerful stuff!

Ec7cb2a7a68655954a01f03e95be1383

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on December 20, 2011
at 06:52 PM

today I ate a few dates and noticed they are to sweet for me. I always craved them in the beginnings of paleo but now I prefer less sweet fruits. I don't crave artificial sweets at all. Really interesting.

724ba4f39f7bbea7f74b45c0a79615f2

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on December 20, 2011
at 05:08 PM

Yeah, I do that too with dairy on the fresher side (goat cheese, cream cheese, milk of any kind, ricotta, sour cream, cream). Aged cheese is ok, but other dairy can make me binge. Yesterday, I had eggs and bacon for breakfast, with a dollop of ricotta, and then ended up eating like 1/2 a tub of ricotta and then wanting to rip everyone's head off from blood sugar crashing all day. So, laying off the dairy (for both of us) is probably not a bad idea.

96bf58d8c6bd492dc5b8ae46203fe247

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on December 20, 2011
at 04:12 PM

My holiday wish for you is that you will, like me, find so much disappointment in how your SAD treats taste and behave in comparison to how real foods taste that you will find yourself rejecting the old preferences and creating new ones within the variety of whole foods.

96bf58d8c6bd492dc5b8ae46203fe247

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on December 20, 2011
at 04:10 PM

I love your point about numb taste buds--that was me! I'm still shocked by being able to taste leaf lettuce, or finding meat sweet. Who knew that carbonated blueberry water kefir could taste better to my taste buds than any commercial soda I ever had?

Dfada6fe4982ab3b7557172f20632da8

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on December 20, 2011
at 03:12 PM

Hi Matt, I'd guess (and it very much is that) that you could maybe eat more before a workout? Also, aside from the cream-cheese, you don't mention if the rest if full fat or not. It sounds like you didn't have a more varied plan in place? Either way, there's probably a good reason why you're hungry after lifting, and if it were me I'd aim to pack in the nutrition with a big meal rather than sneaking back to the fridge over and over, and not necessarily eat later. It may be easier to avoid dairy just to establish different habits, but you may not need to write it off completely!

E5c7f14800c5992831f5c70fa746dc5c

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on December 20, 2011
at 02:56 PM

Thats a crapload of protein too maybe you need some more carbs or fat?

E5c7f14800c5992831f5c70fa746dc5c

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on December 20, 2011
at 02:55 PM

Maybe you suffer from intense cravings because your body is starving? or you have a digestion issue?

Ec7cb2a7a68655954a01f03e95be1383

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on November 19, 2011
at 10:08 PM

yeah, I once searched for it and didn't find anything. Don't know why. However, thanks for the link!

9d43f6873107e17ca4d1a5055aa7a2ad

on November 19, 2011
at 09:58 PM

have you tried googling it? I mean I just Googled it and found this http://paleozonenutrition.wordpress.com/2011/11/02/the-paleo-diet-variation-to-treat-auto-immune-disease/

9d43f6873107e17ca4d1a5055aa7a2ad

on November 19, 2011
at 09:58 PM

have you tried googling it? I mean I just Googled it and found this http://paleozonenutrition.wordpress.com/2011/11/02/the-paleo-diet-variation-to-treat-auto-immune-disease/

Ec7cb2a7a68655954a01f03e95be1383

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on November 19, 2011
at 09:23 PM

not online? :/ ...

9d43f6873107e17ca4d1a5055aa7a2ad

on November 19, 2011
at 09:02 PM

Robb Wolf's Paleo Solution book

Ec7cb2a7a68655954a01f03e95be1383

(1453)

on November 19, 2011
at 08:56 PM

where can I find an auto-immune based paleo protocol btw?

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on November 19, 2011
at 07:56 PM

This posting by Dr Davis at trackyourplaque might assist you in what you think about in your food relation to your overall health. http://www.trackyourplaque.com/blog/2011/11/friday-is-my-bad-day.html Paleo/primal is a lifestyle change. Many of us have decided that food is sustenance and not a reward. Food is what is fuels our bodies..and nothing more. Eating peanuts, crunch toast, ice cream never enters our minds. It would be like putting gasoline into a diesel engine. People who have completed Dr K's Leptin RX have rewired their brains to not desire neolithic foods. You can do the same

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on November 19, 2011
at 07:00 PM

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on November 19, 2011
at 04:07 PM

Great question. Many paleos have suffered or still suffer disordered thinking re: food so this is an important subject. I liked your comment in the first response. I think for you the top priority is to develop a healthy relationship with food. If that means allowing yourself food you love at some regular frequency I think that's fine. You'll have time enough to get the diet perfect once you can find greater peace with food in general. Mastery of self is the ultimate goal here and we each have our unique strengths and weaknesses. Good luck on your journey!

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on November 19, 2011
at 04:02 PM

Bear in mind that you earn the probability of living a vibrant life even when you are old while you'll see those "healthy" people eating junk degenerate early. A healthy diet/life is not only about weight, it is about respecting our body's needs so that in return we are rewarded with health both of the body as of the mind, and the latter is the most important.

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on November 19, 2011
at 04:02 PM

Bear in mind that you earn the probability of living a vibrant life even when you are old while you'll see those "healthy" people eating junk degenerate early. A healthy diet/life is not only about loosing weight, it is about respecting our body's needs so that in return we are rewarded with health both of the body as of the mind, and the latter is the most important.

Ec7cb2a7a68655954a01f03e95be1383

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on November 19, 2011
at 04:00 PM

Bear in mind that you earn the probability of living a vibrant life even when you are old while you'll see those "healthy" people eating junk degenerate early.

Ec7cb2a7a68655954a01f03e95be1383

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on November 19, 2011
at 04:00 PM

I know it's hard if you see apparantly healthy people eating and enjoying crap... but if you would know how they look and feel 30 years later you would probably delay the dopamin reward for the better outcome. Nearly everyone dies from degenerative diseases. More and more elderly get senility, there ability to think with a clear mind vanishes. If this happens, life becomes worthless and your personality fades away. I am happy to abandon crap food which are proven to attack our mind (and body).

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on November 19, 2011
at 02:46 PM

Thanks, I think I just need to remind myself that I have nothing to prove. The achievement of a healthy mind and body is a marathon, not a sprint; I can and will enjoy "non-Paleo" foods, and I will strive to do so infrequently and without guilt, accepting that I am consciously selecting a sub-optimal food in order to satisfy a psychological desire. Hey, man, you only live once.

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724ba4f39f7bbea7f74b45c0a79615f2

on November 19, 2011
at 02:55 PM

For some of us, the foods we eat make us feel like crap, and so we cut out everything that might be the problem to see if it helps. It's an elimination diet, with paleo as the baseline. But if the foods that make me sick don't make you sick, then I wouldn't be that worried about eating it sometimes. Maybe your body is just better adapted to the current world than mine.

But, two thoughts:

Eating cinnamon toast crunch (and not eating enough fat/meat) essentially gave me an eating disorder, because grain makes me malnourished, anxious and depressed and caused all kinds of crazy food-related behavior that I chalked up to neurosis.

Plus, this is the worst part about counting calories: you make trade-offs. Can you allot, say, 1/10 of your calories a day to processed junk food? Maybe you can with no ill effects, in which case, enjoy. But if you're allotting 1/2 your daily calories to ice cream, you're giving up nourishing foods. You won't gain weight, but even if you don't have bad food reactions, you'll get sick.

Also, please don't feel pathetic. Everyone's here looking for info/support. And if your doctor is begging you to gain weight, then consider why and consider that maybe you should. You can gain some back without gaining too much, and you can do it without falling back into your ED, I promise.

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4145b36f1488224964edac6258b75aff

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on November 19, 2011
at 04:34 PM

As someone who was never overweight, I am perpetually perplexed by the way weight-loss dieters seem to measure everything by "shredded"-ness. I suppose it's understandable given the obsession with weight you probably need in order to lose, but once you're at a healthy weight, weight should be the last thing you think about when it comes to food. You're eating for health, not a number on the scale or a bodyfat percentage.

Stop thinking like a fat person and start thinking like the thin person you actually are. Your mind hasn't caught up with your body and until it does you're going to be experiencing plenty of dissonance.

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on November 19, 2011
at 07:00 PM

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40dd57175e30ec6c3080d3fa0b73aeef

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on December 21, 2011
at 12:46 AM

As someone who has struggled for over 10 years with weight issues due to metabolic dysfunction stemming from thyroid/adrenal issues I'm just now treating I have to say that you can't just "start thinking like a thin person". For a lot of people you have to continue to be extremely diligent and, to a point, obessive about what you eat to avoid rebounding. It sucks and I wish I never had to deal with this...but unfortunately it's a fact of life for some of us. You just try to find what balance you can within this paradigm.

4145b36f1488224964edac6258b75aff

(7821)

on December 21, 2011
at 12:48 PM

Ok then you're not really a "thin" person. You're someone with a disease. I have Crohn's so even when I'm doing great I can't say, "now I'm a person without Crohn's I can eat what I want!" I understand that completely. But if you're just a run of the mill fat person who lost a bunch of weight and is now thin, you eventually need to start living like one.

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93ae9f2d376e5426e891a9b58d8302fa

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on November 19, 2011
at 03:41 PM

You say you're doing fine as-is, but then you say you're anemic. Think about it.

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Ec7cb2a7a68655954a01f03e95be1383

on November 19, 2011
at 04:17 PM

I know it's hard if you see apparantly healthy people eating and enjoying crap... but if you would know how they look and feel 30 years later you would probably delay the dopamin reward for the better outcome. Nearly everyone dies from degenerative diseases. More and more elderly get senility, there ability to think with a clear mind vanishes. If this happens, life becomes worthless and your personality fades away. I am happy to abandon crap food which are proven to attack our mind (and body). Bear in mind that you earn the probability of living a vibrant life even when you are old while you'll see those "healthy" people eating junk degenerate early. A healthy diet/life is not only about weight, it is about respecting our body's needs so that in return we are rewarded with health both of the body as of the mind, and the latter is the most important.

Craving processed food is often connected to childhood experiences and an imprinting of those dopamin highs. Many of us learn to be happy when we have these or those processed foods and connect the experience of eating them to being happy. It is a psychological/neurological program running us but it gets weaker and weaker the more we change to whole foods.

What is your diet like?

There is so much food variety, since eating paleo I probably ate more diverse than ever before.

My typical day was cereals with milk, sandwichs, bread, sweets, fried potatoes and other processed cereal/sugar crap.

My taste buds were so numb, that no natural existing food was tasty anymore. I needed sugar, msg, sauces and other additives to enjoy anything I ate.

Today I eat a banana, sweet potatoes or a steak and know that I need no "modern food" at all.

It is important that at first you don't limit yourself to few food groups. Within a paleo/primal framework you can enjoy anything from fruits, starchy and non-starchy vegetables, nuts, eggs, fish, meat, high quality dairy and even some grain alternatives if you prepare them properly.

There are literally hundreds of different foods out there to enjoy. If you limit yourself to some of them but then go on and eat processed food it might be wise to first search for whole foods, even if they aren't strictly paleo (dairy, fermented buckwheat). They serve you better than some cinnamon toast crunch. (whatever that is^^)

96bf58d8c6bd492dc5b8ae46203fe247

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on December 20, 2011
at 04:10 PM

I love your point about numb taste buds--that was me! I'm still shocked by being able to taste leaf lettuce, or finding meat sweet. Who knew that carbonated blueberry water kefir could taste better to my taste buds than any commercial soda I ever had?

Ec7cb2a7a68655954a01f03e95be1383

(1453)

on December 20, 2011
at 06:52 PM

today I ate a few dates and noticed they are to sweet for me. I always craved them in the beginnings of paleo but now I prefer less sweet fruits. I don't crave artificial sweets at all. Really interesting.

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7255a87872b75e6f691d84dca769b87e

on November 19, 2011
at 08:35 PM

Like Krisha and yourself, I have experienced disordered eating behaviour, and I have determined almost definitively that neolithic foods bring on intense mental distress for me. You've got to keep away from cinnamon toast crunch and eat real food. You deserve to give your body and mind the chance to heal, and while it will be hard to keep away from the foods you are addicted to, once you spend a few months paleo your body will no longer crave neolithic foods and your mind will become much calmer.

The people I know who "thrive" on grain based diets have to take acne medicine. They have to eat every hour or will moodily bite someone's head off. They suffer from severe allergies, manic depression, and Type 2 Diabetes. People who eat grain based diets are only happy when they eat grains.

I wish you luck on your paleo journey. You've just got to keep at it and eat lots of animals, veggies, and tubers - your emotional health can and will improve.

96bf58d8c6bd492dc5b8ae46203fe247

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on December 20, 2011
at 04:12 PM

My holiday wish for you is that you will, like me, find so much disappointment in how your SAD treats taste and behave in comparison to how real foods taste that you will find yourself rejecting the old preferences and creating new ones within the variety of whole foods.

518bce04b12cd77741237e1f61075194

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on December 20, 2011
at 10:44 PM

I agree about the "mental distress"- I used to have an ED, and now I feel like a different person. I never really discussed it with the people close to me, didn't take any medications, all I did was embrace food and allow it to heal me. Sound corny, but it was life changing and hit the "refresh" button on my life. Powerful stuff!

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on November 19, 2011
at 02:36 PM

Here's my take on it... if you go by the cals in/out - then just do that & enjoy the foods - in moderation - that you enjoy.

For me, I can't compare myself to how others eat/act/look - b/c I'll never look like they do, act like them or eat like them.
If I eat something that's not usual to my diet (lots of fruit or maybe some ice cream), then I know to eat a little less the next day & keep my activity levels. I don't go overboard, in that I won't over-exercise to compensate for Thanksgiving dinner, for example, b/c I know that I'll lose what little weight I may have gained in a matter of a few days (or a week) by simply maintaining my lifestyle.

So, if you don't want to be "strict" - then don't. But don't eat your "cheat foods" all the time. Some ppl create "cheat days" that they can eat what they won't usually on their diet. If that works for you, try it.

When I went GF, I panicked & felt really sad at all the foods I thought I couldn't eat... until I realized how much REAL food is out there I hadn't tried, didn't eat often, etc. It was a period of adaptation, for sure. Every now & then I'll make GF pancakes (high protein & can only eat 2 small pancakes w/bacon instead of that insatiable stack), or GF brownies (if friends are coming over. Sure, it's not paleo, but I'm also not denying myself things I enjoyed before... but those processed GF foods are full of carbs & are processed.

You'll be ok... just give yourself some time to come around w/the changes you're making. Change takes time. So just enjoy the ride.

Cccb899526fb5908f64176e0a74ed2d9

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on November 19, 2011
at 02:46 PM

Thanks, I think I just need to remind myself that I have nothing to prove. The achievement of a healthy mind and body is a marathon, not a sprint; I can and will enjoy "non-Paleo" foods, and I will strive to do so infrequently and without guilt, accepting that I am consciously selecting a sub-optimal food in order to satisfy a psychological desire. Hey, man, you only live once.

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96bf58d8c6bd492dc5b8ae46203fe247

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on November 19, 2011
at 07:06 PM

It's good that you realize you're on shaky ground with food in general. Unfortunately, losing weight doesn't cure food issues and, as you've seen, can leave you struggling more than ever. Being thinner than you want right now while having thoughts of highly processed foods just confirms your weight is still tied to rational and emotional food choices rather than the natural signals and responses of a healthy body/gut. You're still partly driven by the addictive nature of the processed foods.

I've had some of the thoughts you described. They wrecked several past diets for me, in fact, including my first cycle of ancestral eating. The problem is that when you do eat those old favorites, they may or may not taste as good as they used to if you've been eating 100% ancestral for 30 days or more. They may be so addictive that you gradually increase them until you're back to eating 100% SAD. They may make you sick, either in immediate/obvious ways or more gradual, insidious ones.

First, if you haven't yet done so I strongly suggest you get through the holidays as best you can and then consider going 100% ancestral for just 30 days--you can do 30 days, right? Then you can gradually loosen up within the domain of ancestral eating to include more foods and natural treats. You can still make crunchy things spiced with cinnamon--see this recipe as an example.

For another example, eating fermented foods--kefir, water kefir, saukraut, yogurt, etc.--all provide lots of flavor while promoting the health of your gut. I make water kefir and I'm going to try making counter-top yogurt (Finnish viili) soon and mixing it with my daily fruit choice.

You can have fun and variety in your food but do it ways that traditional societies have used to maintain health and keep their guts happy.

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on November 19, 2011
at 03:35 PM

My questions would be this: How old are the people you see looking great while eating crap? And, how much do you actually know about what they are eating on a regular basis? It's much easier to look great while eating total crap while you are young--especially if you are getting lots of exercise. That doesn't mean those choices won't catch up to you eventually because for most people, they will. Also, unless you spend a lot of time with someone it's really difficult to judge the quality of their diet. My diet at home is pretty pristine, but if I am out (where more people are likely to see me) I make more compromises. Judging my diet based on what I eat at a restaurant or at a holiday dinner would give a pretty skewed version of my dietary reality.

For me, CI/CO was a disaster. It never resulted in any significant or consistent weight loss, but it did result in disordered thoughts about food. When I adopted a WAPF/paleo diet, I stopped counting/measuring and started losing weight. However, I think it is important to remember that this style of eating isn't just about losing weight (and for some it's not about losing weight at all). It's about eating an optimal diet for health. Counting calories clearly resulted in weight loss for you and that is great since that was your goal, but eating Cinnamon Toast Crunch and ice cream isn't likely to result in long term health.

That said, there are paleo calorie counters. There is no reason you can't do both if it is really important to you and it doesn't result in disordered eating patterns. But, it's not a green light to eat junk if you want to stay healthy.

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on July 03, 2012
at 04:24 PM

BRAVO!! Well Said.

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on December 21, 2011
at 07:13 AM

Wow! That's amazing progress! Congrats! I'd normally say, just go with your hunger and go for the things you crave, as once we're no longer broken and our tastes aren't fooled by artificial flavors and other junk in junk food, our level of hunger, and cravings will guide us to what we actually need.

In your case, I'd say you should ignore those specific cravings and switch to healthier alternatives. Maybe almond butter instead of peanut butter, maybe a baked sweet potato with cinnamon and a touch of honey instead of cinnamon toast crunch. But almonds are very high in n6 PUFAs, so you'd be better off with something else there, or at least limiting them.

It does sound like you're craving carbs, so find a good source of them and go with that. Maybe some bananas, plantains, sweet potatoes, carrots or parsnips (these last two go great in soups, especially with some great bone broth.)

Remember the reasons why you gave up crap in a bag/box in the first place. While that 80lbs weight loss was probably your goal, keep in mind that it caused quite a lot of damage to your health, and going back to the SAD way of eating will only cause more damage.

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Cccb899526fb5908f64176e0a74ed2d9

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on December 20, 2011
at 02:46 PM

Damn it, I think I just need to remove dairy altogether from my diet. Whenever I bring it into the house I end up consuming massive quantities in the morning after a workout, and suffer from intense cravings for the rest of the day. It's taking a serious psychological toll.

For example, this morning I ate the following after lifting:

3 cups of cottage cheese, 4 cups of greek yogurt, 1 cup of goat milk, a block of fat free cream cheese, and 2.5 scoops of casein protein powder. Dear God. 2500 calories so far and I'm starving :(

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on December 20, 2011
at 02:56 PM

Thats a crapload of protein too maybe you need some more carbs or fat?

724ba4f39f7bbea7f74b45c0a79615f2

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on December 20, 2011
at 05:08 PM

Yeah, I do that too with dairy on the fresher side (goat cheese, cream cheese, milk of any kind, ricotta, sour cream, cream). Aged cheese is ok, but other dairy can make me binge. Yesterday, I had eggs and bacon for breakfast, with a dollop of ricotta, and then ended up eating like 1/2 a tub of ricotta and then wanting to rip everyone's head off from blood sugar crashing all day. So, laying off the dairy (for both of us) is probably not a bad idea.

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on December 20, 2011
at 02:55 PM

Maybe you suffer from intense cravings because your body is starving? or you have a digestion issue?

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on December 20, 2011
at 03:12 PM

Hi Matt, I'd guess (and it very much is that) that you could maybe eat more before a workout? Also, aside from the cream-cheese, you don't mention if the rest if full fat or not. It sounds like you didn't have a more varied plan in place? Either way, there's probably a good reason why you're hungry after lifting, and if it were me I'd aim to pack in the nutrition with a big meal rather than sneaking back to the fridge over and over, and not necessarily eat later. It may be easier to avoid dairy just to establish different habits, but you may not need to write it off completely!

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on November 20, 2011
at 11:43 PM

At least give up grains. You will feel a lot better. Some people just lose too much on pure paleo. I live with one. If he has to up his carbs to gain weight, he eats more sweet and white potatoes. You do not need grains for anything.

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9d43f6873107e17ca4d1a5055aa7a2ad

on November 19, 2011
at 08:53 PM

If you need to gain weight why not smoothies with bananas, almond butter, egg yolks, cinnamon, chocolate, and other goodies (like this)? If you have anemia, it is important to stick to an auto-immune based paleo protocol until that's resolved and find cheats that fit into that like coconut milk ice cream?

9d43f6873107e17ca4d1a5055aa7a2ad

on November 19, 2011
at 09:58 PM

have you tried googling it? I mean I just Googled it and found this http://paleozonenutrition.wordpress.com/2011/11/02/the-paleo-diet-variation-to-treat-auto-immune-disease/

Ec7cb2a7a68655954a01f03e95be1383

(1453)

on November 19, 2011
at 10:08 PM

yeah, I once searched for it and didn't find anything. Don't know why. However, thanks for the link!

Ec7cb2a7a68655954a01f03e95be1383

(1453)

on November 19, 2011
at 09:23 PM

not online? :/ ...

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on November 19, 2011
at 08:56 PM

where can I find an auto-immune based paleo protocol btw?

9d43f6873107e17ca4d1a5055aa7a2ad

on November 19, 2011
at 09:58 PM

have you tried googling it? I mean I just Googled it and found this http://paleozonenutrition.wordpress.com/2011/11/02/the-paleo-diet-variation-to-treat-auto-immune-disease/

9d43f6873107e17ca4d1a5055aa7a2ad

on November 19, 2011
at 09:02 PM

Robb Wolf's Paleo Solution book

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