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Should you avoid training on an empty stomach if you have cortisol issues?

Answered on August 19, 2014
Created May 01, 2011 at 11:36 PM

I've had some cortisol issues in the past and I am finally starting to get back to normal. I do like training first thing in the morning on occasion, but I am worried it will cause my cortisol issues to come back? I know your cortisol levels should be at it's highest first thing in the morning, but does training on an empty stomach in the morning cause someone with a history of cortisol problems more problems?

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on July 11, 2011
at 05:37 AM

No, you should not.

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on July 11, 2011
at 03:29 AM

@gn, Thanks. I've dropped carbs and am just using whey with glutamine added pwo. No more cravings being set off by the carbs and weight has stabilized. I know Robb Wolf addressed this in one of his podcasts and I think he's right that those of us with sub-optimal metabolisms might do well to forget the pwo carbs at least until the day comes when our bodies are more normalized (and I am pretty much convinced that day will not be coming for me at least not in this lifetime.)

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on June 27, 2011
at 05:13 AM

@Nutritionator: as for a fasted work-outs - i got this idea from "Leangains", but its author, on the other hand, advocates for an immediate carb refill after a work-out - which i find works completely backwards in my case

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on June 27, 2011
at 05:10 AM

@Shari: as i eat only once a day in the evening, and work out (body weight) in the morning - it can be said that i work out fasted, and if i eat anything within a couple of hours after a workout that is pure zero carb - according to my self-observation any carbs eaten just after a work-out are stored directly and immediately and as a belly fat, which is perhaps due to low insulin sensitivity and high post-workout levels of cortisol

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on June 27, 2011
at 03:58 AM

I'd have to see some data to support this, otherwise I think this is a very rare n=1. Everything I've read and listened to up to this point stresses how important proper PWO (post-workout) nutrition is that fasting before and after sounds like a terrible idea. Just my $.02 though.

98bf2ca7f8778c79cd3f6c962011cfdc

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on June 27, 2011
at 03:26 AM

I'd love to hear more about this. Did you find this n=1 or is someone advising this? You eat nothing pre or post? I really struggle with nutrition around WO's and am definitely a "broken".

77877f762c40637911396daa19b53094

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on May 02, 2011
at 04:29 PM

I would recommend not working out longer than 30 minutes per session and keeping them as intense as is tolerable. No long duration endurance exercise. Myself, I have to admit I am confused on this topic also and attribute my fatigue to mismanaged hormone levels in part. I would also like some feedback on the cortisol issue, its precipitates and signs/symptoms. Maybe make another post as I haven't had much luck with thorough responses as late.

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on May 02, 2011
at 12:33 AM

So in my situation would you just avoid it? If not, what type of duration, intensity, time or type of exercise would you do or not do? I feel like my cortisol issues have gone away, more afraid they will come back.

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77877f762c40637911396daa19b53094

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on June 13, 2011
at 01:59 AM

i have a similar issue, and from my own experience i would suggest that fasted work out is fine ONLY IF you do not eat anything (particularly carbs) immediately afterward: forget about post-workout nutrition advice, as it is not for metabolically and hormonally 'broken' people

77877f762c40637911396daa19b53094

(78467)

on June 27, 2011
at 05:13 AM

@Nutritionator: as for a fasted work-outs - i got this idea from "Leangains", but its author, on the other hand, advocates for an immediate carb refill after a work-out - which i find works completely backwards in my case

Cc7381bd787721575ea9198048132adb

(5541)

on June 27, 2011
at 03:58 AM

I'd have to see some data to support this, otherwise I think this is a very rare n=1. Everything I've read and listened to up to this point stresses how important proper PWO (post-workout) nutrition is that fasting before and after sounds like a terrible idea. Just my $.02 though.

77877f762c40637911396daa19b53094

(78467)

on June 27, 2011
at 05:10 AM

@Shari: as i eat only once a day in the evening, and work out (body weight) in the morning - it can be said that i work out fasted, and if i eat anything within a couple of hours after a workout that is pure zero carb - according to my self-observation any carbs eaten just after a work-out are stored directly and immediately and as a belly fat, which is perhaps due to low insulin sensitivity and high post-workout levels of cortisol

98bf2ca7f8778c79cd3f6c962011cfdc

(24286)

on June 27, 2011
at 03:26 AM

I'd love to hear more about this. Did you find this n=1 or is someone advising this? You eat nothing pre or post? I really struggle with nutrition around WO's and am definitely a "broken".

98bf2ca7f8778c79cd3f6c962011cfdc

(24286)

on July 11, 2011
at 03:29 AM

@gn, Thanks. I've dropped carbs and am just using whey with glutamine added pwo. No more cravings being set off by the carbs and weight has stabilized. I know Robb Wolf addressed this in one of his podcasts and I think he's right that those of us with sub-optimal metabolisms might do well to forget the pwo carbs at least until the day comes when our bodies are more normalized (and I am pretty much convinced that day will not be coming for me at least not in this lifetime.)

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on August 08, 2011
at 08:08 AM

I used to have to eat before exercise, but gradually changed to fasting before and then eating after. The first few workouts were a little rough (uneven energy, not much endurance) but eventually got a lot better.

Now I can easily do a 20-35 minute intense workout (kettlebells, floor exercises, burpees, abs) fasted. For me I think that this burns more fat, and is also convenient (can work out first thing in the morning). This took a few weeks to really become comfortable but I am glad I stuck with it.

Now, I don't feel that I need to eat right after exercising either, I am a little hungry but can wait. Like I will often wake up, have just some coffee for breakfast, work out at around 11-11:30, then have lunch at 1 or 2.

I think this has helped my overall mood and energy (i.e. Cortisol). One theory is that I have trained myself to burn stored fat for workouts rather than requiring food.

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77877f762c40637911396daa19b53094

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on May 01, 2011
at 11:47 PM

Likely. It depends on duration , intensity, time and type of exercise and th amount of cortisol usually secreted. The hormones relationship with testosterone- it is claimed- is antagonistic: one is elevated to reduce the other's influence and vice versa up to a certain point. What determines that point is physiology("of the individual"). Boost your test and thereby reduce your cortisol, or don't train under those conditions.

22212e9ba2a041e6da6c963d4d41615a

(5773)

on May 02, 2011
at 12:33 AM

So in my situation would you just avoid it? If not, what type of duration, intensity, time or type of exercise would you do or not do? I feel like my cortisol issues have gone away, more afraid they will come back.

77877f762c40637911396daa19b53094

(78467)

on May 02, 2011
at 04:29 PM

I would recommend not working out longer than 30 minutes per session and keeping them as intense as is tolerable. No long duration endurance exercise. Myself, I have to admit I am confused on this topic also and attribute my fatigue to mismanaged hormone levels in part. I would also like some feedback on the cortisol issue, its precipitates and signs/symptoms. Maybe make another post as I haven't had much luck with thorough responses as late.

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