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Overeating, Mass Gain, Cortisol

Answered on August 19, 2014
Created August 31, 2011 at 9:38 PM

So I understand that overeating leads to high cortisol, BUT when eating for a mass gain it's imperative to overeat...

I'm going through a mass gain, and I've been eating close to 3300 calories daily, everything is going well strength wise, but I don't want to get my cortisol too out of control. Especially since I'm in the middle of a crazy schedule at college, with a very un-paleo dining center.

5' 10 142 pounds

Breakfast 5 sausage patties or pieces of ham
6-8 Eggs

Lunch Monster Salad with olive oil Beef

Dinner Sweet Potato Chicken Breast

Was drinking close to a gallon of milk for a couple days but I noticed an increase in Acne, so I've stopped dairy for good!

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on September 12, 2011
at 01:26 AM

NIce one. The focus on "mass gain" as if it's something other than simply eating more than maintenance calories is somewhat silly. Eat more of everything you currently eat if you want to gain weight. If you hone it in and eat only a 2-300 calorie surplus you'll probably keep it lean and build your muscle, assuming you're lifting heavy enough. If you don't get as close as that and you over shoot by like 500-700 calories or something you'll gain some fat, too. Not a big deal, you can cut that fat later.

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on September 11, 2011
at 11:34 PM

@Tom R. I think you've just given me a new subscription. I thank you and my wife will curse you for finding something new that I have to pay to read. :)

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on September 11, 2011
at 11:29 PM

show me a link to your info

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on September 01, 2011
at 03:10 PM

Correction. Dallas' article is available. Information here: http://whole9life.com/2011/08/clean-mass-gain/

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on August 31, 2011
at 10:48 PM

Cortisol is involved in the repletion of glycogen, so "overeating" would likely raise cortisol. I think people often conflate cortisol's glucose role with its stress role.

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on August 31, 2011
at 10:30 PM

While not published yet, Dallas from Whole9 is undergoing a Paleo mass gain experiment, and as I understand it will write an article for Catalyst Athletics to be published in September: http://www.cathletics.com/articles/index.php I'm looking forward to it. It will probably cost a few bucks to download but should be inciteful. Good luck.

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on September 11, 2011
at 11:44 PM

cut the salad and add in more calorie dense foods

if you can't gain fat or muscle than you are most likely not eating enough

667f6c030b0245d71d8ef50c72b097dc

(15976)

on September 12, 2011
at 01:26 AM

NIce one. The focus on "mass gain" as if it's something other than simply eating more than maintenance calories is somewhat silly. Eat more of everything you currently eat if you want to gain weight. If you hone it in and eat only a 2-300 calorie surplus you'll probably keep it lean and build your muscle, assuming you're lifting heavy enough. If you don't get as close as that and you over shoot by like 500-700 calories or something you'll gain some fat, too. Not a big deal, you can cut that fat later.

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on September 11, 2011
at 11:19 PM

I have always been skinny and tried overeating to gain weight. Even after going Paleo, I still would eat in efforts to get bigger. What I'm realizing about myself is that it's probably not eating that is going to get that look I want. I'm 23, and I think I just need to hit more of those growth hormones to build muscle and size, because I can eat mountains of food for days and not gain a single pound. I have noticed that just not caring, and only eating when I'm hungry, is actually making me gain size! It's funny that all that time I cared so much about getting bigger, then once I stopped trying, I get it. I think girls that are fat actually eat the right amount and have a very healthy gut absorption system, and guys have a ruined system due to eating tons of pizza in order to gain weight! What a world.

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E5c7f14800c5992831f5c70fa746dc5c

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on August 31, 2011
at 10:17 PM

As long as you don't overfeed to the point that you are sick and get enough carbs you should be fine.

Is there even real evidence that overeating raises cortisol or is that anecdotal?

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on August 31, 2011
at 10:48 PM

Cortisol is involved in the repletion of glycogen, so "overeating" would likely raise cortisol. I think people often conflate cortisol's glucose role with its stress role.

E5c7f14800c5992831f5c70fa746dc5c

(12857)

on September 11, 2011
at 11:29 PM

show me a link to your info

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