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Caffeine or Low Cortisol

Answered on September 12, 2014
Created March 10, 2012 at 12:16 PM

Quick question just came to me while out walking today.

Personally, the question isn't for me like most questions that come to me, but just a general query and point in the right direction for further information if possible.

Body fat - of course training smart, eating with calorie restriction is a must to lose excess body fat.

Some gym junkies seem to praise/rely on caffine/ephedra, various stacks, super low carb and other supplements/ways of training and eating that massively increase cortisol! When i was younger i remember trying this, being wired and very lively, but struggled to lose body fat.

For me, i find i lose loads of body fat when i decrease training (break in crossfit/football) and walk often, sleep loads and take no supplements apart from VitD/Fishoil and Magnesium.

I am happy how I am now and was just wondering, are people wired to lose best on supplements and others not?

Thoughts?

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on March 10, 2012
at 06:54 PM

Great project, good luck, looking forward to following! I suspect that lowering cortisol and obtaining an optimal omega-3:omega-6 ratio will get you great results! (Women tend to store their healthy omega-3s in the hips/thighs--there are some lovely articles out there about why this is so. Hint: smart babbies!).

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on March 10, 2012
at 12:50 PM

That's an interesting point and it makes a lot of sense. I had similar habits - get soft, diet down to get lean, get soft again, etc. It always seemed to get more and more difficult to lose the fat with each subsequent cycle as I got older. That's why I'm so pleased with my current project that seems to be working almost effortlessly.

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on March 10, 2012
at 12:45 PM

This is all just my non-scientific theory, but I think how well you lose fat by increasing cortisol-producing habits is based on how burned-out your system is. It probably works great for most people at first, but if you stick with it too long, and do it in conjunction with an otherwise stressed-out lifestyle, then you won't do well.

Perhaps bodybuilders are able to lose fat so well using all the usual cortisol-boosting tricks because they only spend part of the time doing it, and otherwise they are in a "gaining" phase and giving their system a break and time to recover fully.

My apologies for the self-promotion here, but I'm actually doing an experiment to try to change the distribution of my body fat - I'm a female who tends to gain around the middle instead of around my hips and thighs - and I'm finding that stress and cortisol are big factors (my blog is here for those interested: pointsevenratio.wordpress.com). When I was younger and wanted to lose weight, I would up my coffee intake, skip some meals, eat lowish carb, workout more, and fat would melt away and I looked and felt great. After years of doing that almost continuously though, it stopped working, I felt completely destroyed physically, and on top of that the fat I was gaining was going right around the middle. Now I'm focused almost exclusively on lowering cortisol to see where that gets me.

E7adfe31507efb7c935f618a829f56d6

(1507)

on March 10, 2012
at 06:54 PM

Great project, good luck, looking forward to following! I suspect that lowering cortisol and obtaining an optimal omega-3:omega-6 ratio will get you great results! (Women tend to store their healthy omega-3s in the hips/thighs--there are some lovely articles out there about why this is so. Hint: smart babbies!).

A4587cfef29863db612c43f89c202cc1

(2053)

on March 10, 2012
at 12:50 PM

That's an interesting point and it makes a lot of sense. I had similar habits - get soft, diet down to get lean, get soft again, etc. It always seemed to get more and more difficult to lose the fat with each subsequent cycle as I got older. That's why I'm so pleased with my current project that seems to be working almost effortlessly.

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A4587cfef29863db612c43f89c202cc1

on March 10, 2012
at 12:44 PM

I have the same experience regarding thermogenic aids. I recall when you could buy caffeine and ephedrine stacks at GNC and I used to use them for short periods of time to try to lean out back in college. I assume that these pills increased cortisol massively. I did get leaner with them, but never "six pack lean". Now, I'm doing something similar to you. I'm just lifting weights, walking a lot and resting a lot and the fat is falling off of me. I feel great and I don???t miss those pills at all.

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