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P.H.D. Dextrose from GMO corn: should I care?

Answered on February 19, 2017
Created January 08, 2013 at 5:15 PM

I'm trying to implement some of the ideas in The Perfect Health Diet (P.H.D.) and want to switch my sweetener to one that doesn't have fructose.

I found this product: http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B008GQ2JPO/ref=ox_sc_act_title_1?ie=UTF8&psc=1&smid=ATVPDKIKX0DER

It says the source is from corn, and I suspect it is probably GMO.

Should I care?

If someone can suggest a dextrose source that is not from corn, or is GMO free, I'd happily get that.

Is the issues with GMO more in the protein or would the same concerns still exist with something that's 100% sugar?

Any thoughts would be very much welcome,

Thanks, Mike

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on August 27, 2013
at 03:40 AM

Fructose is in my opinion the number three thing you should avoid, behind artificial trans fats, and wheat anything

543a65b3004bf5a51974fbdd60d666bb

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on January 24, 2013
at 09:57 PM

Jaminet also has some comments re arsenic & rice. here are links to a few recent ones. http://perfecthealthdiet.com/q-a/comment-page-48/#comment-114550 , http://perfecthealthdiet.com/2010/11/cooking-with-rice-i-chicken-soup/comment-page-1/#comment-106448 , http://perfecthealthdiet.com/q-a/comment-page-44/#comment-103911 , http://perfecthealthdiet.com/q-a/comment-page-37/#comment-93732 , http://perfecthealthdiet.com/q-a/comment-page-37/#comment-93712

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on January 24, 2013
at 09:26 PM

Any concerns about arsenic in rice products? I seem to recall recent headlines talking about high levels.

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on January 24, 2013
at 05:56 AM

...as an example, here's part of a comment by Paul from last month, "I would go with honey on the high-fructose extreme and a safe starch syrup like tapioca syrup (or dextrose powder) on the 100% glucose end. Xylitol is OK as a zero-carb sweetener but we don’t use it any more ourselves. Brown rice syrup we’re less fond of after the arsenic reports; I wish white rice syrup were available" http://perfecthealthdiet.com/2011/05/chicken-tikka-masala/comment-page-1/#comment-112055

543a65b3004bf5a51974fbdd60d666bb

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on January 24, 2013
at 05:56 AM

thx for clarifying Rob. my tapioca syrup comment was probably putting words in to Paul's mouth. i mentioned it as i saw a few comments on his blog recently suggesting tapioca syrup to some readers for their woes...

543a65b3004bf5a51974fbdd60d666bb

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on January 24, 2013
at 05:33 AM

...here's part of an example comment last month by Paul, "I would go with honey on the high-fructose extreme and a safe starch syrup like tapioca syrup (or dextrose powder) on the 100% glucose end. Xylitol is OK as a zero-carb sweetener but we don’t use it any more ourselves. Brown rice syrup we’re less fond of after the arsenic reports; I wish white rice syrup were available" http://perfecthealthdiet.com/2011/05/chicken-tikka-masala/comment-page-1/#comment-112055

543a65b3004bf5a51974fbdd60d666bb

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on January 24, 2013
at 05:31 AM

thx for clarify Rob. my tapioca syrup comment was probably putting words in to Paul's mouth. i mentioned it as i saw a few comments on his blog recently suggesting tapioca syrup to some readers for their woes...

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on January 24, 2013
at 01:42 AM

Maltose is two glucose molecules stuck together; maltotriose is three. They turn to glucose in your body. When the Jaminets write on their supplement page, "Tapioca syrup is also composed of sugars of glucose," they are saying in non-technical language that tapioca syrup is composed of short polymers of glucose just like rice syrup. That page doesn't recommend either sweetener over the other. The most recent edition of the Jaminets' book recommends rice and tapioca syrup in the same sentence without putting one ahead of the other (page 103). If you want to eat corn dextrose, go for it.

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on January 23, 2013
at 11:17 PM

@Rob, for a powdered sweetener, PHD does actually recommend Dextrose (Glucose) powder, with the warning that it may contain corn toxins. & looking at PJ's recent comments, their number one syrup sweetener would be 'tapioca syrup' if you can get it, then 'rice syrup'. According to their web site Rice syrup is mainly maltose and maltotriose (not glucose) http://perfecthealthdiet.com/recommended-supplements/

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on January 23, 2013
at 06:00 PM

MONSONTO IS THE DEVIL!

2a00b9a42e4cb6e489a0e69d20714576

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on January 23, 2013
at 06:00 PM

Whether it is or not. I am sure not going to be another science experiment for BIG GOV. Neither should you.

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on January 23, 2013
at 03:50 PM

Rice syrup is really hard to measure and cook with. It gums up the mouth of the jar, lid won't close, and is totally a hassle. I want to simply take a spoon of granulated sweetener. And just to be clear, the dextrose is not corn syrup (or HFCS). It's 100% glucose powder; it just happens to be sourced from corn.

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on January 23, 2013
at 01:59 PM

That study is rife with problems. Too small groups to draw conclusions from, no dose dependent response, a lot of headscratcher results... but pictures of mice with huge tumors! SCARY! I'm as anti-GMO as they come, but this study is not something to hold up as good science in opposition to GMOs.

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on January 23, 2013
at 01:22 PM

The authors of Perfect Health Diet recommend rice syrup, not corn syrup, as a source of dextrose (glucose). There are organic brands. For example see Lundberg rice syrup on Amazon.

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on January 23, 2013
at 01:20 PM

The authors of the perfect health diet recommend rice syrup, not corn syrup, as a source of glucose. There are organic brands.

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on January 09, 2013
at 09:16 AM

im right that people should focus on more serious health issues, yes.

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on January 08, 2013
at 09:23 PM

So, because you "don't understand the hatred of fructose", that guarantees you're right, and people who limit fructose are wrong?

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on January 08, 2013
at 07:00 PM

From what I've been reading, fructose is metabolized only in the liver, whereas glucose can be utilized by all cells in the body, as is. And it's not just high fructose corn syrup. I really like The Perfect Health Diet, and "The Sugar Fix: The High-Fructose Fallout That Is Making You Fat and Sick" that explain it much better than I just did :-)

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on January 08, 2013
at 05:26 PM

It's purified, extracted, concentrated. It's not going to be full of corn proteins or anything else that you need be concerned with. Why are you avoiding fructose anyway?

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2a00b9a42e4cb6e489a0e69d20714576

on January 23, 2013
at 11:57 AM

Have you seen the rats? http://www.naturalnews.com/037249_gmo_study_cancer_tumors_organ_damage.html

Use honey or fruits (very ripe bananas) they are nutrient dense sweeteners as opposed to dextrose and due to the fiber in bananas they don't spike your insulin levels. I have dabbled in the perfect health diet. I find if fruit is very ripe your body will be able to tolerate it better (no green tipped bananas- they should be black or spotty).

2a00b9a42e4cb6e489a0e69d20714576

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on January 23, 2013
at 06:00 PM

MONSONTO IS THE DEVIL!

32f5749fa6cf7adbeb0b0b031ba82b46

(41747)

on January 23, 2013
at 01:59 PM

That study is rife with problems. Too small groups to draw conclusions from, no dose dependent response, a lot of headscratcher results... but pictures of mice with huge tumors! SCARY! I'm as anti-GMO as they come, but this study is not something to hold up as good science in opposition to GMOs.

2a00b9a42e4cb6e489a0e69d20714576

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on January 23, 2013
at 06:00 PM

Whether it is or not. I am sure not going to be another science experiment for BIG GOV. Neither should you.

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on February 19, 2017
at 05:39 PM

Search for "Mike's Mix Tapioca Dextrose Powder GMO-Free". Its non-corn. Sells on Amazon for example.

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on August 26, 2013
at 09:10 PM

Hello,

I am going through the same process of trying to eliminate any fructose, sucrose and HFCS (high fructose corn syrup) from my diet. I also want to avoid the GMO crops because I don't know if the herbicide/pesticides residues remain.

Since I also make my own jellies and preserves, I need a large amount of dextrose. I usually buy 25lb or 50lb bags of granulated sugar, so I am looking for similar amounts of dextrose that won't break the bank. Corn based is not necessarily bad if not GMO but 90% + of the corn is now GMO, so I want to avoid corn sources altogether if possible.

The direct correlation between fructose and obesity, heart disease, diabetes (Type II) is stunning. It isn't the high fat diet killing you it is the fructose ...

It is really awful that our food supply is compromised so badly, so I am trying to make the best of it like Mike.

Possible sources of the powder are from Brewing and Wine making suppliers.
Below is a link for Glucose powder imported from France. Since they don't allow GMO in Europe, this should fit the bill. It is pricey though.
http://www.pastrychef.com/GLUCOSE-POWDER_p_794.html

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543a65b3004bf5a51974fbdd60d666bb

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on January 23, 2013
at 10:54 PM

I just look for 100% glucose powder myself & don't stress too much over the source.

The stuff i usually buy is Glucodin powder. It's around $5 for 325 grams in the supermarkets (in Australia).

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on January 08, 2013
at 08:45 PM

What do you use the sweetener for? If you are looking for coffee and tea, stevia seems to be an ok answer...

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on January 08, 2013
at 05:25 PM

another issue with GMO is control of agriculture. patented genes, etc. unknown effects on people and the environment

also i dont understand the hatred of fructose. there are so many other terrible things people are doing to their bodies and livelihoods and this is what people are focusing on? just use honey.

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on January 08, 2013
at 09:23 PM

So, because you "don't understand the hatred of fructose", that guarantees you're right, and people who limit fructose are wrong?

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on January 09, 2013
at 09:16 AM

im right that people should focus on more serious health issues, yes.

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on August 27, 2013
at 03:40 AM

Fructose is in my opinion the number three thing you should avoid, behind artificial trans fats, and wheat anything

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