This guys seems to think that copper piping is a big contributing factor to cognitive decline and alzheimers. He also mentions that copper leads to the oxidation of LDL in the blood which is a major contributing factor to the deleterious effects of a high fat diet. http://www.jacn.org/content/28/3/238.full . If copper is one of the contributors to alzheimers then it also likely would play a role in T2D, and a host of other ailments (chronic inflammatory diseases come to mind). Can you critique this paper, does it seem plausible? Is he overlooking something simple?
If this paper does hold then supplemental zinc might be an obvious semi-fix since copper and zinc can compete for each other in the body. Zinc seems to be extremely anti-inflammatory and if many of our chronic diseases today have at least partial roots in chronic-low-grade inflammation then this would be an interesting path to go down if one was a research scientist or something.
Thoughts? Critiques on this paper?
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on November 30, 2013
at 02:33 AM
Check out the research from HRI (Health Research Institute) in Warrenville, Illinois, also known as the Carl Pfeiffer Institute. Pfeiffer's research indicates that copper overload is definitely linked with many health and behavior issues. Naperville, Illinois is a suburb of Chicago that sprang up beginning in the 1970's, and all of the new homes there were built with new copper pipes. Talk about a large number of health problems and behavior issues concentrated in one town! Treatment did indeed include zinc supplementation, as well as other specific supplements that were prescribed on a case by case basis. Fascinating research was also done on prison populations that showed that many incarcerated individuals had extreme system imbalances. Worth reading about this in depth.
on November 29, 2013
at 08:19 PM
It appears to me that all you have to do is find out what the pH of your tap water is. In my case (I, too, drink tap water) is 9.2, because my area is on a limestone shield. We all have complex health issues, but you can cross out some experiments. It is probably worth it to spend a month on carbon-filtered tap water, because that will be a broad test that eliminated many impurities.
I should add that, coming from a rural area, my mother used to can for the winter for the whole family, specifically tomato sauce and jams. To do that, she would soften the tomatoes and cook down the fruits in a large copper pot (50 gallons large).These are foods with pH levels of 3.3-3.8, and she would process about 1 ton of tomatoes and 0.5 tons of fruit a year (she still does). As a kid I always had white spots in my nails, and I was not the most stable sort. When I realized (over 20 years ago) that the whole family was getting copper macro-doses I insisted that she should get a stainless steel pot, which she did (by then I had moved out for a decade, and had seen my white spots disappear). My point being that this N=30-40 test was unwittingly performed with copper doses far exceeding those coming out of taps. Some health problems, yes, but I do not see it as a magic bullet. I will hold my beliefs about seed oils, CAFO meat, wheat flour, sugar and margarine for a while longer.
on November 29, 2013
at 07:15 AM
I've been beginning to suspect that too much copper may be to blame for a lot of issues out there. I've had great results from increasing zinc supplementation including increased testosterone levels and significant reduction in inflammation.
There's no obvious reasons why my zinc would be low considering that my diet is pretty high in it. I am an athlete though so I do lose some zinc pursuing those ventures. From my understanding though, what's actually important is the ratio of zinc to copper.
It's worth noting that I've drank tap water almost exclusively for over 20 years, from pipes that I assume to be made of copper.
I found a really good read on copper toxicity and the importance of Zinc to Copper ratio. Interesting that too much copper may be linked to gut issues which are subsequently tied to all sorts of inflammatory diseases of the mind and body!