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Fighting against conventional wisdom (and your family)

Answered on August 19, 2014
Created August 26, 2011 at 2:38 PM

I love Paleo and love the way that I look and feel. It is a lifestyle that my husband and I are slowly adopting and loving it! HOWEVER, we are constantly faced with a lot of resistence from friends and family. Anything from stupid comments to jokes at our expense. At family gatherings, someone always makes sure to point out that we are "dieting" again because we aren't piling our plates high with pasta and potatoes (choosing meats and veggies instead). If we do get into an actual conversation about it, people often dismiss what we say by insisting that we are harming ourselves by not eating from all food groups. The thing that really gets me is that these people push chips and cake onto us more than ever now that we are trying to eat healthy. I am sick of dealing with this type of thing and the constant typical remarks: "Oh come on, a piece of cake isn't going to ruin your diet, have some!!"

If anyones experiences have been similar, please share. How do you deal with this? I have tried explaining the premise of the paleo lifestyle but that's a waste of time with people who are slaves of conventional wisdom and believe that eating cake is fine as long as you hop onto the treadmill for an hour after.

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on February 26, 2012
at 02:50 AM

For me it's my dad

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on February 26, 2012
at 02:49 AM

Your not alone, I have this problem too.

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on February 26, 2012
at 02:46 AM

agreed family Members are also the least receptive :)

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on February 26, 2012
at 02:43 AM

I think I might try this :)

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on February 26, 2012
at 02:42 AM

join the club--

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on February 26, 2012
at 02:41 AM

Great phrase :)

00449518f8c762919823012518e19bf5

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on February 26, 2012
at 02:38 AM

well said trijones

00449518f8c762919823012518e19bf5

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on February 26, 2012
at 02:36 AM

Thank you UncleLongHair for sharing. I was thinking about telling some of my co-students about my diet but now I'm going to keep my mouth shut. Agree about ALL the shared food events too- it is like first grade.

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on November 18, 2011
at 02:33 AM

Totally agree. I had this problem at work, where ALL of the shared food events (lunches, coffees, etc) are based on gluten or sugar (bagels, pizza, pretzels, candy, cupcakes, cake.. It's like first grade). I always just said "no thank you" and it wasn't a big deal. One morning I confessed that I was on a gluten-free diet, which most had not even heard of, many didn't even know what gluten is. This led to a lot of explaining and incredulity. I wish I had just kept my mouth shut (of words and food).

4ec0fe4b4aab327f7efa2dfb06b032ff

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on October 18, 2011
at 06:54 PM

The people who say they couldn't enjoy life anymore because they love bread too much are probably the same ones who haven't touched bacon in years because it's so "unhealthy".

E7a462d6e99fec7e8f0ddda11b34a770

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on August 28, 2011
at 04:32 PM

Ooh, I think I'm gonna steal this phrase!

B14dc4aa1ddefbec3bc09550428ee493

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on August 27, 2011
at 05:07 PM

That's kind of my approach. Or I'll say, no thanks, I'm too full or maybe later. It gets the job done without calling attention to the fact that you are eating healthier than they are, which I think is the real issue. You are making them feel bad about what they are doing so they want to get you to eat bad too to make them feel better about it.

7e746be2f0e550a8cd7df881322ae705

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on August 27, 2011
at 03:00 AM

Peter, I was mainly talking about when you choose not to have cake or other sweets. The people pushing them are usually insecure about their own choices.

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on August 27, 2011
at 02:04 AM

I get the "that's not healthy" thing, too. Mostly from people who look like shite. Doesn't matter. The evolutionary ethic implores me to peacefully let them decay as a result of their own decisions. Unless they're blood relations I don't care if they survive.

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on August 26, 2011
at 11:02 PM

I disagree. All the people at my work dont think that my choices are healthy. There not jealous of my choices, they all think that I am misguided and go on about the dangers of red meat, and missing out on food groups. I just ignore it and think to myself that that peice of cake isnt making you any healthier, or thinner.

24fcc21452ebe39c032be6801d6bbadd

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on August 26, 2011
at 10:51 PM

I hear ya on the enjoyment factor- I've had people tell me "I couldn't eat that way, I love food too much!" Uh yeah, I love food too; I eat really good stuff, and I feel better! They're also usually part of the "everything in moderation" crowd...

5ccb98f6ae42ce87e206cf3f6a86039f

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on August 26, 2011
at 10:15 PM

Cleaning out the cupboards is amazing. You really feel committed and sure afterwards. I HIGHLY recommend it.

Ed71ab1c75c6a9bd217a599db0a3e117

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on August 26, 2011
at 07:48 PM

plus one dude.......

Ccdf3fbcaec76e025ff94d03cc4daf9a

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on August 26, 2011
at 06:59 PM

lol, I love that! I think I might use it. I love how fiesty us Meghann's are.

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on August 26, 2011
at 06:30 PM

Ignacio: "stopped enjoying" says it very well. Filed for future use; thanks!

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on August 26, 2011
at 06:09 PM

I agree. I think the negative comments of others will be more easily ignored (or avoided altogether) once my own beliefs with regards to Paleo are strengthened. Although I am well on my way to being 100% Paleo (or 80/20 to be realistic), I am still working through a lot of "baggage" that needs to be slowly sloughed off (including cleaning out my kitchen cupboards). There have been times where I almost began to doubt myself and my intentions after spending a few hours around my "family and friends".

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on August 26, 2011
at 05:48 PM

Very much agree. Humans and other animals can spot weakness. When you are sure of your own beliefs they can sense that resolve and don't see the opening we might be giving them otherwise.

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on August 26, 2011
at 05:32 PM

those negatives comments are a way to challenge your decision. If you feel comfortable with paleo it is best not to confront people, just tell them you stopped enjoying pasta or bread, or that it gives you heartburns. Saying you are gluten intolerant, on the other hand (if you are not) has this problem: it is a lie, and you will make them worry without a cause!

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on August 26, 2011
at 05:13 PM

Do you also yell at them to GET OFF YOUR LAWN! :p

7e746be2f0e550a8cd7df881322ae705

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on August 26, 2011
at 05:13 PM

But Fiber One makes magical HIGH FIBER cake (cupcakes) which make them GOOD FOR YOU, dontchaknow?

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on August 26, 2011
at 04:43 PM

Agree. When people see the difference in how I look and how happiness radiates from me, they comment on that as well. I don't bring up the lifestyle unless someone is genuinely asking.

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on August 26, 2011
at 04:43 PM

Unfortunately for some people cake is a food group.

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on August 26, 2011
at 04:34 PM

Nice answer! It's refreshing to see a non-blaming approach!

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on August 26, 2011
at 04:10 PM

agreed, definitely agree.

De641ff2accb4975e1f42886b43009db

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on August 26, 2011
at 02:57 PM

Totally agree.. when someone asks me why I'm taking the bread off my sandwich or burger, I just tell them "I'm not a big bread person."

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3432683fc74c2d2a40efe1e8f16ac1f6

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on August 26, 2011
at 03:21 PM

PaleoGal, maybe it is a opportunity for you to look inside your own thoughts regarding paleo. I noticed in the past, that my environment (people around me) often just mirror my own ideas, especially those I suppress unconsciously or am not fully aware of.

I'll give an example: I stopped drinking alcohol about 10 years ago, and my friends also made remarks or trying to force me, and I felt uncomfortable about it. But in the last years, I don't remember anyone would convince me to drink (and that includes people who don't know that I quit drinking). It just could be that some part of me still wanted to drink back then, and that provoked those people into forcing me. Nowadays, people just doesn't "feel" like convincing me, since my state of mind is firm and undisturbed regarding that issue.

I also agree with mht, don't talk about your diet unless necessary.

TL;DR: Don't blame others, look inside why those people might behave in such a way.

Ed71ab1c75c6a9bd217a599db0a3e117

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on August 26, 2011
at 07:48 PM

plus one dude.......

Ce41c230e8c2a4295db31aec3ef4b2ab

(32556)

on August 26, 2011
at 04:34 PM

Nice answer! It's refreshing to see a non-blaming approach!

B2cadbf43bddfbb523b8a53155656188

(548)

on August 26, 2011
at 06:09 PM

I agree. I think the negative comments of others will be more easily ignored (or avoided altogether) once my own beliefs with regards to Paleo are strengthened. Although I am well on my way to being 100% Paleo (or 80/20 to be realistic), I am still working through a lot of "baggage" that needs to be slowly sloughed off (including cleaning out my kitchen cupboards). There have been times where I almost began to doubt myself and my intentions after spending a few hours around my "family and friends".

D5096ff5baffc0ba5d20b21346414a7a

(1112)

on August 26, 2011
at 05:48 PM

Very much agree. Humans and other animals can spot weakness. When you are sure of your own beliefs they can sense that resolve and don't see the opening we might be giving them otherwise.

5ccb98f6ae42ce87e206cf3f6a86039f

(11581)

on August 26, 2011
at 10:15 PM

Cleaning out the cupboards is amazing. You really feel committed and sure afterwards. I HIGHLY recommend it.

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on August 26, 2011
at 02:46 PM

Diet is like politics and religion. No need to bring it up, especially if it is causing controversy. When a person asks why no pasta/cake/candy/etc. simply say "I am not in the mood."

B14dc4aa1ddefbec3bc09550428ee493

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on August 27, 2011
at 05:07 PM

That's kind of my approach. Or I'll say, no thanks, I'm too full or maybe later. It gets the job done without calling attention to the fact that you are eating healthier than they are, which I think is the real issue. You are making them feel bad about what they are doing so they want to get you to eat bad too to make them feel better about it.

De641ff2accb4975e1f42886b43009db

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on August 26, 2011
at 02:57 PM

Totally agree.. when someone asks me why I'm taking the bread off my sandwich or burger, I just tell them "I'm not a big bread person."

40449b985898b088a64660b40f329f0f

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on August 26, 2011
at 04:10 PM

agreed, definitely agree.

9a5e2da94ad63ea3186dfa494e16a8d1

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on November 18, 2011
at 02:33 AM

Totally agree. I had this problem at work, where ALL of the shared food events (lunches, coffees, etc) are based on gluten or sugar (bagels, pizza, pretzels, candy, cupcakes, cake.. It's like first grade). I always just said "no thank you" and it wasn't a big deal. One morning I confessed that I was on a gluten-free diet, which most had not even heard of, many didn't even know what gluten is. This led to a lot of explaining and incredulity. I wish I had just kept my mouth shut (of words and food).

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on February 26, 2012
at 02:36 AM

Thank you UncleLongHair for sharing. I was thinking about telling some of my co-students about my diet but now I'm going to keep my mouth shut. Agree about ALL the shared food events too- it is like first grade.

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7e746be2f0e550a8cd7df881322ae705

on August 26, 2011
at 02:50 PM

Sometimes, I eat the cake. My 40th birthday was worth it.

Sometimes, I don't eat the cake. It's really not any of their business.

Most people that give you a hard time about your eating choices are jealous that you can stick to it and they cannot. Watching you make healthy decisions while they are rationalizing unhealthy decisions makes them comment on it. They are trying to make themselves feel better, not make you feel bad.

Usually, I do best not arguing with them. The way I look versus the way they look speaks for itself. Be polite, don't make excuses for yourself, but there is no need to try and make them see it your way either.

Fe198e0c02edd407cdf8c83c0fceaea1

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on August 27, 2011
at 02:04 AM

I get the "that's not healthy" thing, too. Mostly from people who look like shite. Doesn't matter. The evolutionary ethic implores me to peacefully let them decay as a result of their own decisions. Unless they're blood relations I don't care if they survive.

6b8d12fc3e43179f9ae1765a4d1a9dc2

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on August 26, 2011
at 11:02 PM

I disagree. All the people at my work dont think that my choices are healthy. There not jealous of my choices, they all think that I am misguided and go on about the dangers of red meat, and missing out on food groups. I just ignore it and think to myself that that peice of cake isnt making you any healthier, or thinner.

584b19d2b6cebc7cdf070b5f8a5a7937

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on August 26, 2011
at 04:43 PM

Agree. When people see the difference in how I look and how happiness radiates from me, they comment on that as well. I don't bring up the lifestyle unless someone is genuinely asking.

7e746be2f0e550a8cd7df881322ae705

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on August 27, 2011
at 03:00 AM

Peter, I was mainly talking about when you choose not to have cake or other sweets. The people pushing them are usually insecure about their own choices.

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on August 26, 2011
at 09:56 PM

I just went through this with a friend who was staying with me..she claimed to be "worried" about me because I was "cutting out food groups," to which I tried to explain that "food groups" are just made up new ideas (referring to the food pyramid).

She said I was was like a "crazy orthorexic type" which to me is hilarious because I'm not obsessive, I go out to dinner, I drink wine, I don't limit my eating to the food I can cook at home, etc... Yes, I am conscious of the food I eat, no, I do not want to eat processed crap, and yes, it's a slightly particular diet but to me it's pretty easy.

I don't talk about it much except to say that I feel GOOD! This friend does not understand it, to her it's "obsessive," "heart-stopping, like Atkins!," and I'm "not enjoying life because I've cut out so many things."

The irony is I'm enjoying life more.

As far as exercise goes, same thing...she thinks working out with my trainer in the park, dead lifting rocks (which we do sometimes, not because it's "Paleo" but because the rocks are just there in the park), doing HIIT type stuff is "crazy!" And she thinks I'll injure myself.

She strolls alongs, plays tennis a few times, drinks a lot, eats a ton of bread and asks me why I don't have snacks at my house. And she looks unhealthy and overweight. So.....

You can't explain yourself to people like that. And in my mind, she's absurdly unhealthy in diet, exercise and mental attitude.

The most annoying thing is probably that she goes around telling people how crazy I am.

Oh well.

24fcc21452ebe39c032be6801d6bbadd

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on August 26, 2011
at 10:51 PM

I hear ya on the enjoyment factor- I've had people tell me "I couldn't eat that way, I love food too much!" Uh yeah, I love food too; I eat really good stuff, and I feel better! They're also usually part of the "everything in moderation" crowd...

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on October 18, 2011
at 06:54 PM

The people who say they couldn't enjoy life anymore because they love bread too much are probably the same ones who haven't touched bacon in years because it's so "unhealthy".

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on February 26, 2012
at 02:38 AM

well said trijones

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E7a462d6e99fec7e8f0ddda11b34a770

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on August 26, 2011
at 02:51 PM

They are pushing you more now because they are feeling defensive and maybe a little angry (subconsciously) because the perception is that by rejecting their way of eating you are attacking them somehow and calling them "wrong". And they are also afraid you might be right.

This is not something you can fix directly. Just stick to your guns, lead by example and tread lightly - not doing anything that could be considered judgemental by people who are extra sensitive right now. If you don't make a big deal about it and try to keep it light, they will eventually calm down.

And while you are really happy and excited about how much better you feel and you want to spread it around (at least I know I did ;p ), what you really want is for gatherings with friends and family to be fun again, right?

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on August 26, 2011
at 11:02 PM

Just stop. You don't have to attend every argument you are invited to!

E7a462d6e99fec7e8f0ddda11b34a770

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on August 28, 2011
at 04:32 PM

Ooh, I think I'm gonna steal this phrase!

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on February 26, 2012
at 02:41 AM

Great phrase :)

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on August 26, 2011
at 05:15 PM

This reminds me of this quote, "The masses have never thirsted for the truth. Whoever can supply them with the illusions is easily their master; whoever attempts to destroy their illusions is always their victim." Gustave Le Bon. We know "conventional wisdom" is their master, but I refuse to become a victim. I just continue to do my own thing and don't let them get to me. My late Mother used to say, "Have broad shoulders and a slippery back." I know I feel GREAT on the inside by following the Paleo lifestyle. I am just waiting patiently for the results to appear on the outside. Although, this can be frustrating at times! I am human, after all. I know my middle-aged friends would respect my lifestyle a lot more IF they could SEE the results and other benefits. I rather have more birthdays than more cake! Best of luck to you and everyone else! :)

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on August 26, 2011
at 03:22 PM

I was at a Robb Wolf seminar last week and his mother doesn't go along with it either! You just can't help people who won't help themselves!

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on August 26, 2011
at 03:00 PM

When family or "friends" do this to me it just strengthens my resolve. No way am I going to eat something because it was pushed on me. I am a stubborn old coot. However, I have to keep in mind that they are probably just as stubborn and won't accept what I try to "push" on them. Long before paleo, I just pretended I was diabetic. I would just say, "I can't eat sugar." And now, I say, for my husband and me, "We can't eat sugar or gluten. It causes us health problems." People are much more tolerant if it is a health issue...as if obesity isn't a major health problem!

7e746be2f0e550a8cd7df881322ae705

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on August 26, 2011
at 05:13 PM

Do you also yell at them to GET OFF YOUR LAWN! :p

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on August 27, 2011
at 12:01 AM

Let them eat cake.

Doing something that is against the cultural norms takes a thick skin, and a certain comfort in being different than the majority of people. I just shrug off whatever they say, or just try to end the conversations/comments quickly. Don't feel like you have to always justify yourself to them, just say you do what you want to do, and you don't want to eat what they give you.

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on August 26, 2011
at 03:30 PM

I tell them I go ape-shit crazy when my blood sugar is out of whack, so really I'm doing it for them.

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on August 26, 2011
at 06:59 PM

lol, I love that! I think I might use it. I love how fiesty us Meghann's are.

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on August 26, 2011
at 03:26 PM

I refuse people's offerings and taunts with the quiet confidence of knowing that I'm mentally and physically stronger than them.

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on February 26, 2012
at 02:43 AM

I think I might try this :)

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on August 26, 2011
at 02:50 PM

You know, the fact they annoy you and try to convert you back to the SAD means they're afraid of your success. Nobody likes it when others do better. I would just deal with it by laughing away what they say, and not trying to "convert" them. They'll respect paleo if they see you florish.

Just remind them about their health issues (I'm sure they have some). People often don't realize they are unhealthy. Take my brother : he always says he's the healthiest of the whole family (because he doesn't go to the doctor often). Yet he has tons of acne. And my sister : she sometimes has blue feet from the cold (while it's not even that cold), and she's freaking pale. And my father : he farts at random moments, has cholesterol problems, he's not in good shape at all. But they all say they are very healthy...

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on February 26, 2012
at 02:42 AM

join the club--

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on August 26, 2011
at 10:34 PM

Wait until you can school them. Like literally school them. If you can explain why it's the diet is smart on multiple levels, it's probably wise to keep your mouth closed and wait until they ask why you look so good and have so much energy. Also, remember who you're talking to. Family members are the least receptive which is frustrating because we love them most.

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on February 26, 2012
at 02:46 AM

agreed family Members are also the least receptive :)

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on August 26, 2011
at 06:09 PM

i have been eating a weight lifting 6 meal a day small portion diet for 3 years...gaining a pound a month, when I have 50 pounds to lose. I worked out hard. I was diligent in my workouts. Guess what?? I became a strong fat person.

When I switched to Paleo, A friend rolled her eyes and said.."I have seen you so disciplined for 3 years... and it has done you no good. I'll be watching." I did not say another word. I lost 25 pounds in 8 weeks and now when we visit them for a cookout..it is totally Paleo. The husband of my friend has lost 20 pounds so far. She still eats sweets on the side when no one is looking. I never comment on her.

Several people have come to me asking what is happening . I am having the opposite reaction.

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on August 26, 2011
at 04:31 PM

I tell them I'm wheat intolerant - and you don't want to see me when I'm intolerant!

Cake is not a food group.

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on August 26, 2011
at 04:43 PM

Unfortunately for some people cake is a food group.

7e746be2f0e550a8cd7df881322ae705

(18701)

on August 26, 2011
at 05:13 PM

But Fiber One makes magical HIGH FIBER cake (cupcakes) which make them GOOD FOR YOU, dontchaknow?

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on August 26, 2011
at 04:06 PM

It happens to everyone. I either dismiss it or like others, say "I don't want any". If it comes down to where they really upset me, I just make it clear it's my lifestyle. Right now, I have a better "excuse" as my doctor placed me on the diet due to gluten intolerance and thyroid issues. They shut up now. Good luck.

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on August 26, 2011
at 02:46 PM

The main thing to know is that you are doing the right thing for you. I am on the 2-3 meal a day thing right now and I sometimes will fast / decline to eat food. There are so many wonderful foods that are Paleo. I also often bring something delishes to share and eat that.

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on November 18, 2011
at 01:21 AM

I am dealing with this this week and wanted to find company/vent! Found this thread and my situation is echoed here.

Had cholestrol tested last week and it came back "high" TC 201, LDL 132. Now everyone is "concerned" about me. And I have to face criticisms of my diet from the fam/gf exc. I show research to support my claims and give the standard paleo responses. It does not matter what amount of research or information or facts I quote...it does no good in justifying my stance to these people who offer no backing besides "someone said so".

It gets really old and frustrating to have to justify how you eat to so many different people all of whom are more sickly and in worse shape than you are. Constant annoying bogus claims straight off of DR. OZ. So frustrating. I hate having to justify my diet at every turn.

It's my fault for putting the information on my diet out there to try to help people with their problems. Not that I'm constantly shoving it down their throats or anything, just mentioning it on occasion. Morally I feel like I have to try to push something I know will help people. But for my own peace of mind I just want to mind my own business and say I'm allergic to that.

Thankful to have people that care about me, but frustrated to be justifying myself on deaf ears when I believe with all my heart I'm right.

Never felt better, not changing.

I'm planning on eating more meat, and less raisins, then seeing what my cholestrol does.

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on February 26, 2012
at 02:49 AM

Your not alone, I have this problem too.

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on October 18, 2011
at 11:20 AM

I once used the comeback "Yeah, well, you can't say it isn't working out well for me. You can't argue with my biceps."

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on August 26, 2011
at 04:09 PM

This is a touch one for me. I try and remain open to everything, but my girlfriend has a big problem with Paleo and adheres to conventional wisdom.

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on February 26, 2012
at 02:50 AM

For me it's my dad

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