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FODMAPS, SCD or GAPS? where to begin??

Answered on August 19, 2014
Created November 14, 2012 at 10:45 PM

I have run the gamut of diets to heal my digestion issues-- most of which help for a bit, and then my symptoms come back, and new ones appear as well. I have gone gluten free, then cut out soy and dairy, done the candida diet... Now am full low carb paleo, which I felt great on at first and finally had normal BM's but I seem to get new symptoms daily! I am constipated, have foul gas, constant bloating, loud stomach gurgling, upper abdomen tightness, brain fog, don't feel like myself, loss of period-- just to name a few. I feel like my diet is already so restricted and dont know what to do next, my quality of life is truly diminishing. I have had full blood panels done (all normal) and an endoscopy and colonoscopy (normal as well). I feel like I am intolerant to everything under the sun.

I have been now thinking I have fructose malabsorption as I know I react badly to onions and apples. But the more I read, the more confused I get; is fructose malabsorption just symptom of SIBO? Should I get tested for SIBO or is that just a waste of time/money? Which protocol should I start next? I am too young to feel this crappy =/

5'6/130lbs/26y/o female

EDIT: I started the FODMAPS elimination diet 3 days ago and am seeing HUGE improvements in my digestion! Will update when I am done with the protocol! Thanks for everyone's input

EDIT 2: Although I do believe I have some level of fructose malabsorption, I am still not feeling 100%. I am now looking into histamine intolerance, as I have tracked what foods I seem to have a reaction from and they are all high in histamine.

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+1 very nice put!

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on November 15, 2012
at 10:45 PM

Experimenting is a good idea, you can bring fruits to the minimum, exclude obvious FODMAPS and see how you go with safe starches. If they still cause you bloating you might try powdered glucose - it will be absorbed quickly and should not give bloating.

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on November 15, 2012
at 05:57 PM

Not currently, has been the best thing for me ever! Eventually I may reintroduce carbs, but as long as I maintain variety and consume a wide variety of offal I'm not concerned.

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on November 15, 2012
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yeah its hard because the PHD allows safe starches, but if one has sibo, you are supposed to avoid carbs. Ahhh. I guess I will only know if I try both ways and see how I react

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on November 15, 2012
at 02:25 PM

so do you eat any veggies at all?

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at 03:50 AM

yep, I eat fermented foods-- kimchi and kombucha, and take a daily probiotics. Also take digestive enzymes with meals. I take a multi vitamin, vitamin d and vitamin c (I worked these into my diet slowly so I know they are not the cause of any issues). I have been under a great amount of stress recently so I know this hasnt helped my situation, but I dont see how I could possibly react to just about every food! It makes me crazy, I feel like I cannot live normally =/

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on November 15, 2012
at 07:14 AM

I had similar problems, it turned out that fructose and other FODMAPS were issue, so low carb obviously didn't help (hello broccoli, garlic and onions!).

Now I eat safe starches (glucose) and try to eat only fermented vegetables, feeling much better.

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on November 15, 2012
at 02:31 PM

yeah its hard because the PHD allows safe starches, but if one has sibo, you are supposed to avoid carbs. Ahhh. I guess I will only know if I try both ways and see how I react

5bac45c78a2be60bc17fc2084a0f5d43

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on November 15, 2012
at 10:45 PM

Experimenting is a good idea, you can bring fruits to the minimum, exclude obvious FODMAPS and see how you go with safe starches. If they still cause you bloating you might try powdered glucose - it will be absorbed quickly and should not give bloating.

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on December 09, 2012
at 04:42 AM

This question comes up a lot on forums like this, so I wrote a guide on which diet to follow at which point. I'm glad that FODMAPs worked for you! http://eugenia.queru.com/2012/12/08/the-gut-and-paleo-scd-gaps-fodmaps/

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on May 15, 2013
at 07:51 AM

+1 very nice put!

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on June 17, 2013
at 02:32 AM

I have very similar issues and I am about to embark on a herbal parasite cleanse as I have been reading up, and every one of my symptoms are symptoms of a possible parasite problem (up to 90% of all humans will have a parasite infection at some point in there lives). I also believe I have a bacterial overgrowth and I am taking probiotics (made me very sick with die-off/healing crisis for the first 5 days). Also, in the last few days I have been taking clove powder capsules (I filled empty gelatine capsules) 2 x 500mg capsules before bed. I woke up this morning with an almost totally flat stomach (that hasn't happened in at least a year!) and I didn't bloat at all last night either. Clove, Black Walnut and Wormwood capsules are what you want for a parasite cleanse.

Also, take magnesium for constipation (Magnesium Oxide works, up to 1250mg per night for severe constipation) For the full benefits of magnesium (like calm, sleep and nervous system support, choose Magnesium Citrate, or natural marine magnesium) God bless & all the best with sorting out your issues (you are not alone!) :)

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on November 20, 2012
at 02:02 PM

I've thought about doing something like this, but I was never that fond of meat actually, and a main concern is how to get your vitamin c naturally. There has to be a way, since most animals can make their own vitamin c, but humans can't. That means we must be constructed to eat something with a lot of vitamin c. I'm glad you got a break from your trouble though!

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on November 15, 2012
at 02:03 PM

I had terrible digestive/bowel issues until I eliminated all fiber from my diet. One or two weeks of constipation later and now everything is normal/ have a ton of energy. My diet consists of muscle meat, organs, gelatin, broth, eggs, lots of coconut, fats (bacon grease, coconut oil, tallow, lard), fish and general seafood. Skin has cleared up/mood is far more stable. I love my world!!

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on November 15, 2012
at 05:57 PM

Not currently, has been the best thing for me ever! Eventually I may reintroduce carbs, but as long as I maintain variety and consume a wide variety of offal I'm not concerned.

Aff97e82eccef9d957abdd7317f72457

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on November 15, 2012
at 02:25 PM

so do you eat any veggies at all?

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on July 29, 2013
at 11:45 PM

You all sound me like me! I'm on low fodmap & was working for me & now for some unknown reason it's not. I'm now looking into GAPS. Has anyone tried it?

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on November 14, 2012
at 11:30 PM

keeks, i totally know how you feel. i have UC and have tried every diet under the sun. i'm currently doing the autoimmune protocol of paleo but also no seaweeds, starches, onions, garlic. i only eat a few foods- meat, zucchini, mushrooms, greens, and a little fruit- bananas and grapes are my favorites. i use coconut oil and olive oil on my foods as well as sea salt.

doing all the restrictions at once can make you go insane. i still have a lot of symptoms so i know i need to do something more than diet. are you on any supplements right now? taking probiotics or eating fermented foods?

Aff97e82eccef9d957abdd7317f72457

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on November 15, 2012
at 03:50 AM

yep, I eat fermented foods-- kimchi and kombucha, and take a daily probiotics. Also take digestive enzymes with meals. I take a multi vitamin, vitamin d and vitamin c (I worked these into my diet slowly so I know they are not the cause of any issues). I have been under a great amount of stress recently so I know this hasnt helped my situation, but I dont see how I could possibly react to just about every food! It makes me crazy, I feel like I cannot live normally =/

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