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Ray Peat in College

Commented on March 28, 2014
Created March 28, 2014 at 3:41 AM

Hey guys,

I'm very interested in Ray Peat's work, although I'm at a college cafeteria. I have access to conventional milk, sugar, OJ, eggs in unlimited amounts. Would it be possible to devise a plan without things like shellfish and liver?

Thanks in advance, appreciate it. :)

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on March 28, 2014
at 11:44 PM

I've done the diet for a while where you live on fruit, protein, and jugs of orange juice. It actually comes pretty naturally if you're not eating much fat or processed food and are into fruit juices and needing the quick calories / blood sugar.

Initially starting paleo, low carb felt bad and I needed to gain weight, where a peat diet was sort of my default starting point. Once I learned more about where I wanted to actually be, it seemed helpful to remove the rediculous amount of fructose from my diet, then suddenly I could digest much more fat / dairy and energy became smoother.

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on March 28, 2014
at 07:01 PM

I found it really interesting but I, too, couldn't get through many articles. They're usually extremely wordy and rarely have a clear point to them. He offers no distinct summary of recommendations (that I could find) but has a lot to say. I found summaries of the "Ray Peat Diet" put together by other people, but just a collection of papers from him.

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on March 28, 2014
at 04:01 PM

+1 for using "Peat" and "Moss" together in a sentence about nutrition. Anyhow, that Peat guy's take on nutrition really is weird as fuh....

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on March 28, 2014
at 03:46 PM

Yeah it kind of defeats the purpose of asking this on a Paleo website. Paleo is supposed to be: no sugar, no milk, and no sugary fruit juice. The only paleo thing there is eggs, which if I was you, I would eat to satiety. You can't go wrong with eggs.

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on March 28, 2014
at 02:57 PM

Lol, paleot are you familiar with Peat?

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on March 28, 2014
at 11:46 AM

That defeats the purpose of a Ray Peat diet.

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on March 28, 2014
at 04:47 AM

you should do better asking at peatarian.com they have a pretty active forum.

some 'peatarians' used to float around here a while back, but have been absent (non active) in recent months (years?)

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on March 28, 2014
at 03:52 PM

Having attempted to read his articles I quickly found that I'd rather go get my teeth drilled then continue on reading. That doesn't mean that it invalidates his theories, it just means I can't figure out what he is all about. I'm pretty darn happy with Paleo/Primal and Peat moss in the garden for the veggies.

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on March 28, 2014
at 07:01 PM

I found it really interesting but I, too, couldn't get through many articles. They're usually extremely wordy and rarely have a clear point to them. He offers no distinct summary of recommendations (that I could find) but has a lot to say. I found summaries of the "Ray Peat Diet" put together by other people, but just a collection of papers from him.

Be157308a0438e382b88d9db4c12ab30

on March 28, 2014
at 04:01 PM

+1 for using "Peat" and "Moss" together in a sentence about nutrition. Anyhow, that Peat guy's take on nutrition really is weird as fuh....

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on March 28, 2014
at 03:07 PM

I'm guessing the cafeteria milk is low-fat or fat-free? If you're going to go Ray Peat style at least drink whole milk or half-and-half (cream and milk). Do you have access to lots of fresh fruit? Peat eats lots of fruit. He also avoids PUFA's like the plague so eggs wouldn't be a suitable peatarian staple. Chances are the juice isn't of the best quality either.

So, no... even with a little sea food I don't think you can eat really healthy with those staples.

But yes, you could devise a plan without liver and shell fish that would leave you far more healthy than most of your cafeteria browsers. At least supplement with fish oil, Kerrygold butter, and maybe some magnesium, zinc, copper, and maybe some other stuff to offset your deficits.

Try tracking your food with cronometer.com and see if you're really low in anything.

I know it can be difficult to eat healthy when you don't have complete control over the shopping and a heafty food budget. You can still eat well in the mean time. When I ate in a college cafeteria it was mostly omelettes at breakfast, sandwiches and salads at lunch and juices and yogurt and cereal as snacks, so pretty CW healthy.

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on March 28, 2014
at 04:14 AM

Sugar and pasteurized sugary fruit juice / confined animal farmed pasteurized milk / CAFO eggs would probably be best consumed in lesser amounts than in unlimited supply. These are not ideal food staples for a balanced diet.

Ditch the OJ for oranges, CAFO milk for raw pastured dairy, find the best eggs you can get, and throw out the sugar.

With good eggs, you'll get a lot of the nutrients you would find in shellfish / liver, but you would still want some seafood in your regular diet and organ meat somewhere in there as well.

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That defeats the purpose of a Ray Peat diet.

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