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Why does wheat make me feel real good

Answered on August 19, 2014
Created December 20, 2012 at 4:53 PM

been on high carb, crappy diet for my whole life. Been doing low carb paleo and seems to be going well. Though it has not been strict paleo. I have my cheat times. From my experience of foods i have noticed that Any time i eat wheat, especially pizza, i feel great. Super warm, then feel real good the next day also, especially if i eat alot and go to bed on a full stomache. I believe this has something to do with me being hyperglycemic (though i technically might have another disease in the same category). I am in the process of recalibrating my carbs because before i would get real cold and couldnt figure it out.

i figured it out and it was unless i ate a crap load of carbs, specifically grains, i would be cold. when i fasted my blood would go down to 60 give or take, when eating alot i would go only up to 120 or so, give or take.

I seen a rhematologist 4 times and the only thing he wanted me to do is take a pill that opens the blood vessels...well i refused knowing it was something that could be prevented and cured without pills.

I have noticed a huge difference in being warmer from eating Meat.

I think i am on the right path to curing, though my question is why does wheat specifically make me feel incredible? Is it because i ate soo much darn pizza before going paleo? I still drink alcohol, though i take rob wolfs advice and Mix some quality liquor with club soda and feel a huge difference than if i drank beer. i dont feel like crap anymore.

Seems to me that wheat specifically Makes me feel completely different than if i ate a bunch of potatos or fruit. If i eat pizza, i get super warm and feel very good. I think i just need to Give my body more time to adjust to getting off wheat (which i have been consuming large amounts my whole life)..

Any input would be great. thanks

56bc750affa41124e1142a6e8e239e3d

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on December 21, 2012
at 02:04 AM

If you really need more starches (probably not), sweet potatoes, handful of two of nuts and seeds each day, squashes (butternut and spaghetti squash are both great!), coconut meat, jicama, asian radishes, etc. Lots of paleo starches out there, though you might not be familiar with some of the more exotic ones.

56bc750affa41124e1142a6e8e239e3d

(145)

on December 21, 2012
at 02:01 AM

Actually, I wouldn't recommend more fruit - there's pretty much nothing in fruit that you can't get better from veggies (save the sugars, which have their own problems). Still, a healthy serving of fruit each day is fine. More calories is easy - more coconut oil, olive oil, organ meats, ghee, etc. Fat is the most calorie-dense out there. You can verify if you're really getting cold from caloric shutdown by simply keeping an accurate log of everything you eat each day for awhile. Try fatsecret.com or any of the other sites that help with that.

363d0a0277a8b61ada3a24ab3ad85d5a

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on December 20, 2012
at 11:08 PM

White rice can work too - helped me out so much when getting out of a hypothyroid state (plus ate potatoes and added more fruits and OJ). I was able to double my calories, maintain weight, TSH went back to normal and hashimoto's antibodies to 0. I think I low carbed it too long or lost weight too fast.. not sure what brought it all on, but it felt great to get past it. Good luck and I hope you feel better soon.

363d0a0277a8b61ada3a24ab3ad85d5a

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on December 20, 2012
at 11:04 PM

+1 - I had a similar experience where low carb caused me to dip into hypothyroidism and after adding in starches (including white rice) and sugary fruits. I started to feel amazing and could end up eating much more and maintaining weight, feeling warmer and TSH is now normal, hashimoto's antibodies down to 0.

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on December 20, 2012
at 09:08 PM

Wheat makes you feel *really good.

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on December 20, 2012
at 06:22 PM

"I think i am on the right path to curing" ... curing what???

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on December 20, 2012
at 06:07 PM

+1 for Gluteomorphins (Gluten morphine). I believe Sam is correct

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on December 20, 2012
at 06:03 PM

The addictive opioids.

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on December 20, 2012
at 04:57 PM

forgot to mention. my blood work is normal, and my thyroid is Right where it should be. Right in the middle. i have had thorough testing done and everything is normal.

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B3173217a49b5b0116078775a17eb21d

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on December 20, 2012
at 09:03 PM

Same reason that heroin makes you feel good. Doesn't mean that it's doing you any good though...

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on December 20, 2012
at 05:15 PM

I find that low carb causes my thyroid function to be suppressed.

Maybe it's iodine and selenium deficiency.

Also if carbs make you feel good there is not reason to be eating pizza, just eat starches.

363d0a0277a8b61ada3a24ab3ad85d5a

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on December 20, 2012
at 11:04 PM

+1 - I had a similar experience where low carb caused me to dip into hypothyroidism and after adding in starches (including white rice) and sugary fruits. I started to feel amazing and could end up eating much more and maintaining weight, feeling warmer and TSH is now normal, hashimoto's antibodies down to 0.

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56bc750affa41124e1142a6e8e239e3d

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on December 20, 2012
at 05:38 PM

According to _Wheat_Belly_ and some underlying references, there are morphine analogs called gluteomorphins that come from digesting wheat. These bind to opiod receptors in your brain and help create an addiction response/dependency and the associated feel-good reaction. Beyond that, the insulin rush if you're hyperglycemic could easily do it, and grains are especially good at triggering an extended insulin response in many people.

I notice being cold if I don't eat enough fat or calories. Coconut oil seems especially helpful to me for avoiding chills.

Try making sure you get enough calories and fat. Also, if you want to get a better feel for what's going on with you, try some higher carb days, but only healthy, paleo-friendly starches like sweet potatoes and such. If you don't get a similar feel-great response, it's likely either the gluteomorphins or a high-glycemic load extended insulin rush. Next, try a high-glycemic non-wheat like taro or rice for your carbs. If still no feel-great response, then that suggests the gluteomorphins as the cause. Or perhaps something else in the wheat - there's plenty to react to there, that's for sure.

thhq makes some good points as well.

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Cbda678b2a6bf0537d8c4ea0ce8aa9ad

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on December 21, 2012
at 01:00 PM

I have been on a "Paleo" diet for about 2 years now. TypeII diabetic. Absolutely no grains or legumes. And the only thing I still kind of crave, is fresh home-made bread made from freshly ground grain that we used to make here.

So, wheat has got something, I reckon, that causes this. I mean I never even think about ice-cream or dessert... just beautiful bread :) A sandwich perchance...

I sometimes make a kind of chapati from almond flour, coconut flour, eggs, cooked pumpkin, ginger, cinnamon and salt to throw on some cheese. Heaven revisited.

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on December 20, 2012
at 05:34 PM

You sound hypoglycemic if your glucose is going down to 60 and never over 120.

Pizza is a lot more than just wheat flour. It contains a huge amount of fat in the dough and cheese. It also contains lots of the magic swelling agent salt. So it generates kind of an insulating effect along with fat satiation. If I eat pizza I sometimes feel like a heat lamp, if a heat lamp had the ability to feel that is.

Edit to add: Pizza doesn't have to come with a carb crust. Try an experiment with sausage crust sometime and see if the result is the same. I know Lou Malnati's has one, and I'm sure there are others that make them.

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on December 21, 2012
at 08:41 AM

I feel the same exact way from eating pizza , i'll feel like a God the following day and will have an amazing training session never understood this . If i stay away from pizza to long i begin to feel like crap & workouts suffer .

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on December 20, 2012
at 07:02 PM

you don't have a gluten sensitivity (read acute) and you haven't felt the effects of long term chronic problems?

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on December 20, 2012
at 05:51 PM

How does one consume more starches? more potatos and fruit? is what i am assuming?

thanks

56bc750affa41124e1142a6e8e239e3d

(145)

on December 21, 2012
at 02:04 AM

If you really need more starches (probably not), sweet potatoes, handful of two of nuts and seeds each day, squashes (butternut and spaghetti squash are both great!), coconut meat, jicama, asian radishes, etc. Lots of paleo starches out there, though you might not be familiar with some of the more exotic ones.

363d0a0277a8b61ada3a24ab3ad85d5a

(4642)

on December 20, 2012
at 11:08 PM

White rice can work too - helped me out so much when getting out of a hypothyroid state (plus ate potatoes and added more fruits and OJ). I was able to double my calories, maintain weight, TSH went back to normal and hashimoto's antibodies to 0. I think I low carbed it too long or lost weight too fast.. not sure what brought it all on, but it felt great to get past it. Good luck and I hope you feel better soon.

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993800e72197546f4c0f28f6d6d73272

on December 20, 2012
at 05:46 PM

i never eat fruit....when u say get more calories..how do i do that if i mostly just eat meat or eggs, and veggies...maybe thats my issue...Calories are too low along with my hypoglycemic. Should i start eating more fruit?

thanks alot for all the input...I truely believe paleo is the way to go ....this grain crap making me feel great is false. because on day 2 or day after sometimes, i feel horrible.

Alot of answers to my questions are problaly in my rob wolf book...So sorry for the inconvenience, and thanks again for all the reponses.

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56bc750affa41124e1142a6e8e239e3d

(145)

on December 21, 2012
at 02:01 AM

Actually, I wouldn't recommend more fruit - there's pretty much nothing in fruit that you can't get better from veggies (save the sugars, which have their own problems). Still, a healthy serving of fruit each day is fine. More calories is easy - more coconut oil, olive oil, organ meats, ghee, etc. Fat is the most calorie-dense out there. You can verify if you're really getting cold from caloric shutdown by simply keeping an accurate log of everything you eat each day for awhile. Try fatsecret.com or any of the other sites that help with that.

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