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Tingling feet sensation?

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Created February 16, 2012 at 7:17 PM

Lately my health has been going down a bit, just like the temperature. I found out I don't tolerate retinol, so I probably am vitamin-D deficient again (my retinol intake has been > 30k IU daily for 6 months, my beta-carotene intake has been very high too).

Whatever I try, nothing works. Some symptoms :

  • Puffy eyes + bags under eyes.
  • Bumpy skin under eye on one side of the face (for some reason the skin on the left side of my face is not very good, but the skin on the right side is how I want it to be).
  • Peeling but not chapped lips, they come back often.
  • Feeling cold from time to time, feeling warm from time to time.
  • Sometimes sleep well, sometimes I don't.
  • Some sinus issues that I've been having for more than a year now, and never went away but did become okay on paleo, and in the summer I almost forgot about it.
  • Tingling feet.

Now I've experimented with higher carb levels, but they don't seem to be the answer to my problem : I've tried adding sweet potatoes, after that I tried eating lots of apples which worked a bit better than the potatoes, ... Lately I stopped doing that and I'm now eating > 2-3 pounds of veggies, meat and coconut oil.

I have a grass pollen and a mold allergy...

The only things I can think of is an electrolyte imbalance or a lack of circulation or something like that. I doubt it's multiple sclerosis :D, since I'm eating like an MS-patient should eat and I've been doing this for lots of months with no cheats.

3c6b4eed18dc57f746755b698426e7c8

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on February 22, 2012
at 03:16 PM

Neuropathy can also be a byproduct of being hypothyroid. That's why it's not enough to just test TSH, Free T3/T4. Get your TPO/TG tested. It's a shame many endos won't do this.

B0fe7b5a9a197cd293978150cbd9055f

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on February 18, 2012
at 02:54 PM

I used to have hypoglycemia but I think it went away (I'm not easily hungry and am not moody). Hypothyroidism seems very plausible, and it may be caused by a lack of iodine. I'm gonna by some iodized salt today and will report back.

B0fe7b5a9a197cd293978150cbd9055f

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on February 18, 2012
at 02:53 PM

I can't find beet greens, only beets :(. I have some potassium chloride powder though. I tested it, but the difference wasn't huge. The tingling is not as bad as it used to, but still it's there. Could it be iodine? I believe that's the only mineral/vitamin I'm lacking in.

B0fe7b5a9a197cd293978150cbd9055f

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on February 18, 2012
at 02:51 PM

I doubt it'll take me years : 20 years of practically no retinol intake probably created quite a deficiency. Probably the reason why I only started having problems since eating liver.

6120c989fd5b69f42a0834b69b87955b

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on February 17, 2012
at 10:09 PM

I believe vitamins A and D are antagonists for each other, so if you raise A intake but are static in vitamin D intake you can accidentally create a vitamin D deficiency. The same thing can happen in the other direction too with super high vitamin D supplementation.

6120c989fd5b69f42a0834b69b87955b

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on February 17, 2012
at 10:08 PM

I believe vitamins A and D are antagonists for each other, so if you raise A intake but are static in vitamin D intake you can accidentally create a vitamin D deficiency. The same thing can happen in the other direction to with super high vitamin D supps.

3846a3b61bc9051e4baebdef62e58c52

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on February 17, 2012
at 12:34 AM

Wow, I just looked up how much liver it takes to reach this level...you have been eating a pound of liver every day? Thats what my fit day says. I mean I eat about a pound every week, but a pound a day does seem a bit much.

3eca93d2e56dfcd768197dc5a50944f2

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on February 16, 2012
at 11:15 PM

Don't supplement with potassium. The ones found on the counter only do 3% RDA which is useless. Just eat some beet greens. They have the most potassium of all.

De267f213b375efca5da07890e5efc25

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on February 16, 2012
at 08:50 PM

Vitamin A is fat soluble, which means that you can't stop taking it for a week and expect to see a difference. With the quantities that you've been consuming, you could stop for a few YEARS and maybe notice a difference.

6120c989fd5b69f42a0834b69b87955b

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on February 16, 2012
at 08:47 PM

You can still OD on real food.

De267f213b375efca5da07890e5efc25

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on February 16, 2012
at 08:45 PM

You can poison yourself with liver too - that's why pregnant women are told to avoid it! It's a good paleo food but remember that paleo man probably didn't eat much of it.

4781cf8ae1bfcb558dfb056af17bea94

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on February 16, 2012
at 08:18 PM

You're the one who told me that's how much you were getting...

B0fe7b5a9a197cd293978150cbd9055f

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on February 16, 2012
at 07:56 PM

I know you all are very right, but this is not the cause of my symptoms at all!! I have stopped retinol a while ago.

B0fe7b5a9a197cd293978150cbd9055f

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on February 16, 2012
at 07:56 PM

I guess you'd be right, if I was still doing that. I was not poisoning myself, I was eating real food : liver. I stopped doing that 2 weeks ago, haven't had liver since.

4781cf8ae1bfcb558dfb056af17bea94

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on February 16, 2012
at 07:43 PM

Look, I'll be clear. If you don't want to die, stop taking, or eating, 30,000 IU of retinol daily.

4781cf8ae1bfcb558dfb056af17bea94

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on February 16, 2012
at 07:41 PM

Look, I'll be clear. If you don't want to die early, stop taking (or eating) 30,000 IU of retinol every day.

B0fe7b5a9a197cd293978150cbd9055f

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on February 16, 2012
at 07:39 PM

I've already stopped that, Jay, didn't work. And liver is real food, so I don't see what's wrong with it.

B0fe7b5a9a197cd293978150cbd9055f

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on February 16, 2012
at 07:39 PM

I'm an inpatient boy, you're right :) On the other hand, those problems started recently while I didn't change my vitamin D dose or anything. So is this really vitamin D again?

4781cf8ae1bfcb558dfb056af17bea94

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on February 16, 2012
at 07:37 PM

I have an idea! Stop taking 3X the tolerable upper limit for retinol.

Ce41c230e8c2a4295db31aec3ef4b2ab

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on February 16, 2012
at 07:34 PM

Korion~ I think you need to be patient & get your D level up *before* you start making any other tweaks... Also make sure you are supplementing Magnesium 200-600 mg.

B0fe7b5a9a197cd293978150cbd9055f

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on February 16, 2012
at 07:33 PM

At home it's as dark as could be. Starting today I sleep in a room with a bit more light, but I do my best to keep it as dark as possible. Even at home I had the tingling sensation though ...

B0fe7b5a9a197cd293978150cbd9055f

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on February 16, 2012
at 07:28 PM

It is not as high as I thought it was, I just checked : my potassium probably reaches 100% easily, but 150% not. And I've been eating VLC before for 2 months (no veggies). It could be potassium ... We'll see tonight, I have potassium chloride somewhere in my room :)

B0fe7b5a9a197cd293978150cbd9055f

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on February 16, 2012
at 07:24 PM

Always possible, Eugenia, but probably not : I definitely get enough potassium in my diet (lots of parsley & celeriac, and some meat), and I supplement magnesium (maybe a bit too much ...)

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4781cf8ae1bfcb558dfb056af17bea94

(4359)

on February 16, 2012
at 07:36 PM

You are taking 3X the tolerable upper limit of retinol and probably have vitamin A poisoning. Isn't that obvious?

Here's a suggestion: Stop poisoning yourself with vitamin A. During this time, I would also take Vit D because, as you suspected, you are also probably vitamin D deficient if you are taking that much retinol and no vitamin D. I would also see a doctor immediately to treat you for the toxic levels of vitamin A you might have.

De267f213b375efca5da07890e5efc25

(3747)

on February 16, 2012
at 08:45 PM

You can poison yourself with liver too - that's why pregnant women are told to avoid it! It's a good paleo food but remember that paleo man probably didn't eat much of it.

B0fe7b5a9a197cd293978150cbd9055f

(8938)

on February 16, 2012
at 07:56 PM

I guess you'd be right, if I was still doing that. I was not poisoning myself, I was eating real food : liver. I stopped doing that 2 weeks ago, haven't had liver since.

4781cf8ae1bfcb558dfb056af17bea94

(4359)

on February 16, 2012
at 08:18 PM

You're the one who told me that's how much you were getting...

3846a3b61bc9051e4baebdef62e58c52

(18635)

on February 17, 2012
at 12:34 AM

Wow, I just looked up how much liver it takes to reach this level...you have been eating a pound of liver every day? Thats what my fit day says. I mean I eat about a pound every week, but a pound a day does seem a bit much.

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6120c989fd5b69f42a0834b69b87955b

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on February 16, 2012
at 09:01 PM

Tingling feet can be caused from a number of things:

If for some reason it isn't vit A toxicity, I would guess that you have mobilized toxins that were bound up in your body if you've been losing weight, and those are causing neurological problems. The cold intolerance makes me think it could be thyroid too.

As a casual observer it would appear that you are having real issues, some underlying and some created from jousting at those issues randomly with supplements. I would highly recommend that you put in the footwork to find a good doc (I think you've mentioned your disappointment with you current doc on here before), or at least an endocrinologist and do some serious bloodwork before choosing to experiment with any more supplements.

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5388361e71b8f9b29b684bb30609cd31

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on February 16, 2012
at 07:47 PM

Agreed on the Vitamin A.
Early symptoms are the skin problems you described.
Stop before you damage your liver.

B0fe7b5a9a197cd293978150cbd9055f

(8938)

on February 16, 2012
at 07:56 PM

I know you all are very right, but this is not the cause of my symptoms at all!! I have stopped retinol a while ago.

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Af3e3615beba642bcafd0f21d64d74f7

on February 17, 2012
at 05:51 AM

Have you ever been to a chiropractor? Could have a pinched nerve, or ruptured disk you may not know about. Also, menopause causes these symptoms as well and time frame/age varies greatly on when this occurs.

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6e37f170409bc1b100c880c57508c5fd

on February 17, 2012
at 03:18 AM

I was dx with b12 def. Cyano B12 was ineffective as evidenced by left foot, then left leg, neuropathy. Neurologists said I was fine! 3 yrs later Dr Kresser mentions methyl. Neuropathy gone except when I eat buckwheat, fermented sourdough bread (rare) and even rice!

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3c6b4eed18dc57f746755b698426e7c8

on February 17, 2012
at 02:12 AM

How is your blood sugar? Tingling sensations are a symptom of neuropathy. Usually this doesn't happen some time after your diagnosis but it's possible that it could precede the actual diagnosis. Also, many autoimmune diseases can promote neuropathy (such as MS). Get your ANA and other antibodies for autoimmune diseases tested. Have hypo/hyper thyroid antibodies tested.

B0fe7b5a9a197cd293978150cbd9055f

(8938)

on February 18, 2012
at 02:54 PM

I used to have hypoglycemia but I think it went away (I'm not easily hungry and am not moody). Hypothyroidism seems very plausible, and it may be caused by a lack of iodine. I'm gonna by some iodized salt today and will report back.

3c6b4eed18dc57f746755b698426e7c8

(5147)

on February 22, 2012
at 03:16 PM

Neuropathy can also be a byproduct of being hypothyroid. That's why it's not enough to just test TSH, Free T3/T4. Get your TPO/TG tested. It's a shame many endos won't do this.

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De267f213b375efca5da07890e5efc25

(3747)

on February 16, 2012
at 08:48 PM

The tingling feet is a concern, as is the temperature intolerance. It might not be MS but it could still be neurological, as problems usually appear the feet first. We're really not doctors and, more importantly, don't and can't have enough information to diagnose a problem like this. You should see a neurologist. Don't be scared - as my PCP puts it, they're used to seeing lots of terribly sick people who they can't help so they're happy to see someone for whom they can make a difference.

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5e5ff249c9161b8cd96d7eff6043bc3a

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on February 16, 2012
at 07:27 PM

How dark is your room? I have really spotty sleep unless mine is pitch black. Also are you supplementing at all? I know my sinuses act up unless I take some vit C.

B0fe7b5a9a197cd293978150cbd9055f

(8938)

on February 16, 2012
at 07:33 PM

At home it's as dark as could be. Starting today I sleep in a room with a bit more light, but I do my best to keep it as dark as possible. Even at home I had the tingling sensation though ...

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3eca93d2e56dfcd768197dc5a50944f2

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on February 16, 2012
at 07:19 PM

Magnesium and/or potassium deficiency maybe?

3eca93d2e56dfcd768197dc5a50944f2

(11697)

on February 16, 2012
at 11:15 PM

Don't supplement with potassium. The ones found on the counter only do 3% RDA which is useless. Just eat some beet greens. They have the most potassium of all.

B0fe7b5a9a197cd293978150cbd9055f

(8938)

on February 16, 2012
at 07:24 PM

Always possible, Eugenia, but probably not : I definitely get enough potassium in my diet (lots of parsley & celeriac, and some meat), and I supplement magnesium (maybe a bit too much ...)

B0fe7b5a9a197cd293978150cbd9055f

(8938)

on February 16, 2012
at 07:28 PM

It is not as high as I thought it was, I just checked : my potassium probably reaches 100% easily, but 150% not. And I've been eating VLC before for 2 months (no veggies). It could be potassium ... We'll see tonight, I have potassium chloride somewhere in my room :)

B0fe7b5a9a197cd293978150cbd9055f

(8938)

on February 18, 2012
at 02:53 PM

I can't find beet greens, only beets :(. I have some potassium chloride powder though. I tested it, but the difference wasn't huge. The tingling is not as bad as it used to, but still it's there. Could it be iodine? I believe that's the only mineral/vitamin I'm lacking in.

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