0

votes

Lemon, Green/Black Tea, Coffee.

Answered on August 19, 2014
Created September 20, 2012 at 4:42 AM

From purely a health standpoint, which would be best to drink first thing in the morning? I currently drink lemon water upon awaking, (I often do pushups before drinking everyother day) then go for half an hour walk before eating breakfast. Is this a good idea or would coffee or black tea be better? I have never drink coffee nor black tea (except for sampling while I was younger) is it a good idea to start now? Or stick with the lemon, or perhaps leave it all out entirely and consume just a hot cup of water.

7278560e76901ded4081022b54c6e165

on September 24, 2012
at 05:31 AM

I wouldn't eat fruit as a breakfast, too much carbs on a empty stomach. I hate those sugar highs and midday crashes. I just eat eggs or meat in the morning, other days I treat myself to some carbs along with the mix. Carbs come in later in the day with my lunches or supper

7278560e76901ded4081022b54c6e165

on September 24, 2012
at 05:27 AM

Ah thank you for the clarification, yes I was concerned about the fructose and the sugar content.

Bb3d1772b28c02da2426e40dfcb533f5

(5381)

on September 21, 2012
at 11:38 AM

Lemons are very low in fructose if thats what your worried about? Lime has virtually none, if you want an even less sugary alternative. Either way nothing to worry about there...

7278560e76901ded4081022b54c6e165

on September 21, 2012
at 04:54 AM

Yeah I guess I might stick to lemon water, I use half a lemon each morning. Tastes nice and gives some flavour to start the day. But due to lemon being a fruit and all, such a small amount shouldn't do any effects. The Pros probably outweigh the negativeness of it

Ba1c998b18470309687f07606767668a

(161)

on September 20, 2012
at 12:27 PM

Agree, why start now?

Bb3d1772b28c02da2426e40dfcb533f5

(5381)

on September 20, 2012
at 12:12 PM

Theres more at that wiki page detailing the carcinogenic potential of these substances. Thankfully the body gets rid of them fast.

Bb3d1772b28c02da2426e40dfcb533f5

(5381)

on September 20, 2012
at 12:06 PM

In natural whole foods, polyphenols are probably healthful, as they prepare the body for dealing with such events (at least according to the whole hormesis theory of dr harris). What level it becomes harmful is hard to judge tho..., but I certainly wouldnt suggest that foods high in polyphenols should be consumed very regularly as a way of promoting health, given what we known about their ability to cause cancer at high doses.

Bb3d1772b28c02da2426e40dfcb533f5

(5381)

on September 20, 2012
at 12:03 PM

Basically, its this whole plant/food anti-oxidant thing is a big load of BS. Ingesting large amounts of polyphenols is probably somewhat dangerous rather than health promoting. In fact studies have already shown than pregnant mothers drinking excess tea can cause leukemia in their unborn children, and they have found a smoking gun for the genotoxicity in genotoxicity studies...

Bb3d1772b28c02da2426e40dfcb533f5

(5381)

on September 20, 2012
at 12:01 PM

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Health_effects_of_natural_phenols_and_polyphenols#Antioxidant_activity - "As interpreted by the Linus Pauling Institute and the European Food Safety Authority (EFSA), dietary flavonoids have little or no direct antioxidant food value following digestion.[7] Not like controlled test tube conditions, the fate of natural phenols in vivo shows they are poorly conserved (less than 5%), with most of what is absorbed existing as chemically-modified metabolites destined for rapid excretion."

Bb3d1772b28c02da2426e40dfcb533f5

(5381)

on September 20, 2012
at 11:59 AM

Ill restate that then - in vivo, the plant compounds known as polyphenols do not show anti-oxidant effects, despite having these effects in a test tube. In fact, in large doses they are carcinogenic, and the body clears them very quickly through the liver like toxins. Dr harris talks about this. They are commonly referred to as "anti-oxidants", but they are not in fact anti-oxidants, in the same way melatonin, uric acid, or q10 are.

06ca9c524c28bc3fba95d4d90f8f43c6

on September 20, 2012
at 10:37 AM

One more: http://www.webmd.com/diet/news/20050808/coffee-is-no-1-source-of-antioxidants

06ca9c524c28bc3fba95d4d90f8f43c6

on September 20, 2012
at 10:37 AM

@jamie http://www.lifed.com/10-best-food-sources-of-antioxidants

7278560e76901ded4081022b54c6e165

on September 20, 2012
at 10:08 AM

I don't consume caffeine right now so that is why I am afraid to try coffee as I don't want to become dependent on the drink.

Bb3d1772b28c02da2426e40dfcb533f5

(5381)

on September 20, 2012
at 08:55 AM

^ Polyphenols arent anti-oxidants...

06ca9c524c28bc3fba95d4d90f8f43c6

on September 20, 2012
at 07:14 AM

Coffee is the #1 source of antioxidants for americans. Granted, as a whole we don't eat the best. As to the caffeine, it's like anything else, it has some potent effects but can be overused. But used correctly, it can be a powerful tool.

06ca9c524c28bc3fba95d4d90f8f43c6

on September 20, 2012
at 07:12 AM

I'm personally a big fan of the real stuff (can be a little spendy) I have noticed a difference when using "bad" coffee. The beans are Guatemalan, so I've become pretty partial to beans from there. The combo of MCT oil and butter is really potent and keeps me a "fat burning beast" till whenever I decide to eat.

98266ae0c87836d4bb714b6d31cacbf9

(1632)

on September 20, 2012
at 06:31 AM

Yup, brew your favorite type of coffee and shove it in a blender with some butter till nice and frothy. And MCT oil, but i skip that.

Efd28623add25421afa2884b466163c4

(163)

on September 20, 2012
at 05:56 AM

Just an FYI this is blending coffee with butter, right? Not the actual brand?

98266ae0c87836d4bb714b6d31cacbf9

(1632)

on September 20, 2012
at 05:38 AM

Personally i do not like the smell. Especially in the morning, it's way too strong. But there's something about butter and coffee that makes it taste great.

06ca9c524c28bc3fba95d4d90f8f43c6

on September 20, 2012
at 05:28 AM

It's definitely a "different" taste in a good way. My wife says it smells like "breakfast toast".

98266ae0c87836d4bb714b6d31cacbf9

(1632)

on September 20, 2012
at 05:02 AM

^Yes. Although not many people like the taste, you've got to try it out for yourself.

Frontpage book

Get FREE instant access to our Paleo For Beginners Guide & 15 FREE Recipes!

7 Answers

best answer

3
Bb3d1772b28c02da2426e40dfcb533f5

(5381)

on September 20, 2012
at 12:10 PM

Id guess the healthiest thing to drink first thing would be water. What your doing is probably fine.

I wouldnt suggest that drinking tea, cacao or coffee very regularly is healthier than not. They are all psychoactive, and all contain polyphenols which are better in moderation than excess.

If youve been doing without them, dont start IMO.

7278560e76901ded4081022b54c6e165

on September 21, 2012
at 04:54 AM

Yeah I guess I might stick to lemon water, I use half a lemon each morning. Tastes nice and gives some flavour to start the day. But due to lemon being a fruit and all, such a small amount shouldn't do any effects. The Pros probably outweigh the negativeness of it

Bb3d1772b28c02da2426e40dfcb533f5

(5381)

on September 21, 2012
at 11:38 AM

Lemons are very low in fructose if thats what your worried about? Lime has virtually none, if you want an even less sugary alternative. Either way nothing to worry about there...

7278560e76901ded4081022b54c6e165

on September 24, 2012
at 05:27 AM

Ah thank you for the clarification, yes I was concerned about the fructose and the sugar content.

7
Aeb34822732d3ff78a8085a71f1baebe

on September 20, 2012
at 05:33 AM

In my opinion, if you haven't started the caffeine habit, don't start it now. Your adrenals will thank you. Not that it's a horrible habit but some people are more sensitive than others and there is a crash no matter what you mix with the coffee. I gave up coffee and noticed that my appetite has gone way down. I never realized how much my appetite was Actually stimulated as I had my post coffee caffeine crash. YMMV

06ca9c524c28bc3fba95d4d90f8f43c6

on September 20, 2012
at 10:37 AM

@jamie http://www.lifed.com/10-best-food-sources-of-antioxidants

Bb3d1772b28c02da2426e40dfcb533f5

(5381)

on September 20, 2012
at 11:59 AM

Ill restate that then - in vivo, the plant compounds known as polyphenols do not show anti-oxidant effects, despite having these effects in a test tube. In fact, in large doses they are carcinogenic, and the body clears them very quickly through the liver like toxins. Dr harris talks about this. They are commonly referred to as "anti-oxidants", but they are not in fact anti-oxidants, in the same way melatonin, uric acid, or q10 are.

Bb3d1772b28c02da2426e40dfcb533f5

(5381)

on September 20, 2012
at 12:03 PM

Basically, its this whole plant/food anti-oxidant thing is a big load of BS. Ingesting large amounts of polyphenols is probably somewhat dangerous rather than health promoting. In fact studies have already shown than pregnant mothers drinking excess tea can cause leukemia in their unborn children, and they have found a smoking gun for the genotoxicity in genotoxicity studies...

Bb3d1772b28c02da2426e40dfcb533f5

(5381)

on September 20, 2012
at 12:01 PM

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Health_effects_of_natural_phenols_and_polyphenols#Antioxidant_activity - "As interpreted by the Linus Pauling Institute and the European Food Safety Authority (EFSA), dietary flavonoids have little or no direct antioxidant food value following digestion.[7] Not like controlled test tube conditions, the fate of natural phenols in vivo shows they are poorly conserved (less than 5%), with most of what is absorbed existing as chemically-modified metabolites destined for rapid excretion."

06ca9c524c28bc3fba95d4d90f8f43c6

on September 20, 2012
at 10:37 AM

One more: http://www.webmd.com/diet/news/20050808/coffee-is-no-1-source-of-antioxidants

7278560e76901ded4081022b54c6e165

on September 20, 2012
at 10:08 AM

I don't consume caffeine right now so that is why I am afraid to try coffee as I don't want to become dependent on the drink.

Bb3d1772b28c02da2426e40dfcb533f5

(5381)

on September 20, 2012
at 12:12 PM

Theres more at that wiki page detailing the carcinogenic potential of these substances. Thankfully the body gets rid of them fast.

Bb3d1772b28c02da2426e40dfcb533f5

(5381)

on September 20, 2012
at 08:55 AM

^ Polyphenols arent anti-oxidants...

06ca9c524c28bc3fba95d4d90f8f43c6

on September 20, 2012
at 07:14 AM

Coffee is the #1 source of antioxidants for americans. Granted, as a whole we don't eat the best. As to the caffeine, it's like anything else, it has some potent effects but can be overused. But used correctly, it can be a powerful tool.

Bb3d1772b28c02da2426e40dfcb533f5

(5381)

on September 20, 2012
at 12:06 PM

In natural whole foods, polyphenols are probably healthful, as they prepare the body for dealing with such events (at least according to the whole hormesis theory of dr harris). What level it becomes harmful is hard to judge tho..., but I certainly wouldnt suggest that foods high in polyphenols should be consumed very regularly as a way of promoting health, given what we known about their ability to cause cancer at high doses.

3
01adafcb4dd4147c6af543f61eee60a8

on September 20, 2012
at 09:56 AM

Warm water and squeezed lemon is my best morning drink

Ba1c998b18470309687f07606767668a

(161)

on September 20, 2012
at 12:27 PM

Agree, why start now?

2
3ce6a0d24be025e2f2af534545bdd1d7

(26217)

on September 20, 2012
at 11:56 AM

None are really BAD choices. I enjoy coffee so I drink it every morning. I also love tea so I have a cup of black tea (either hot or cold depending on the weather) with lunch. And I have some red tea after dinner each night. What's best? Well I don't drink any of them for my health (although all three have been shown to have some good properties). I mostly drink them for my mental health. Something about stopping what I am doing and enjoying a warm beverage that is stress releasing to me....

1
06ca9c524c28bc3fba95d4d90f8f43c6

on September 20, 2012
at 05:01 AM

Bulletproof coffee. Hands down.

-Matt
PhysiqueRescue.com

98266ae0c87836d4bb714b6d31cacbf9

(1632)

on September 20, 2012
at 05:38 AM

Personally i do not like the smell. Especially in the morning, it's way too strong. But there's something about butter and coffee that makes it taste great.

06ca9c524c28bc3fba95d4d90f8f43c6

on September 20, 2012
at 05:28 AM

It's definitely a "different" taste in a good way. My wife says it smells like "breakfast toast".

Efd28623add25421afa2884b466163c4

(163)

on September 20, 2012
at 05:56 AM

Just an FYI this is blending coffee with butter, right? Not the actual brand?

98266ae0c87836d4bb714b6d31cacbf9

(1632)

on September 20, 2012
at 05:02 AM

^Yes. Although not many people like the taste, you've got to try it out for yourself.

06ca9c524c28bc3fba95d4d90f8f43c6

on September 20, 2012
at 07:12 AM

I'm personally a big fan of the real stuff (can be a little spendy) I have noticed a difference when using "bad" coffee. The beans are Guatemalan, so I've become pretty partial to beans from there. The combo of MCT oil and butter is really potent and keeps me a "fat burning beast" till whenever I decide to eat.

98266ae0c87836d4bb714b6d31cacbf9

(1632)

on September 20, 2012
at 06:31 AM

Yup, brew your favorite type of coffee and shove it in a blender with some butter till nice and frothy. And MCT oil, but i skip that.

0
77877f762c40637911396daa19b53094

(78467)

on November 27, 2012
at 06:35 PM

0
0b7c3e7fd96005f0b2dfd781e512fc2e

(1237)

on September 23, 2012
at 12:35 PM

I have heard that your body is in a state of natural detox when you wake up, and high-stimulant substances like coffee halt that process. The source I read recommended fruit as a good breakfast, if you have to eat at all. Anyone know anything about this?

7278560e76901ded4081022b54c6e165

on September 24, 2012
at 05:31 AM

I wouldn't eat fruit as a breakfast, too much carbs on a empty stomach. I hate those sugar highs and midday crashes. I just eat eggs or meat in the morning, other days I treat myself to some carbs along with the mix. Carbs come in later in the day with my lunches or supper

Answer Question


Get FREE instant access to our
Paleo For Beginners Guide & 15 FREE Recipes!