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How is Coffee Paleo/Healthy?

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Created June 14, 2012 at 4:39 PM

I don't drink coffee because when I do it makes me, quite literally, ill. Even one sip and I feel so sick. But it is delicious, so I occasionally have some, and then very quickly am reminded why I never drink it.

But I see so many posts on here about everyone drinking coffee- my question is how is coffee Paleo? And how is it part of a healthy diet when caffeine is a drug with stimulant effects? Also, studies have shown that as little as one cup of coffee a day can adversely effect your adrenals long-term. Also, it is extremely acidic and harsh on your system....

Just wondering why people consider it part of a health-plan?

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on July 28, 2012
at 03:19 PM

lol hey raydawg, just so you know "Kasra" used to call him(her?)self "Scrotum" on PH...

A7768b6c6be7f5d6acc76e5efa66464c

on July 28, 2012
at 02:06 PM

Just curious if you were on those nutrients from childhood? Unfortunately, my childhood diet led to quite a number of cavities. This stopped when I reached adulthood and ate differently, but the damage was done. Teeth with fillings often need treatment later (fillings get loose, decay resumes, or teeth crack--all of this has happened to me). Still, I'd rather keep the teeth, fillings and all, than have lost them when I was a kid, which was pretty much the only other option without dentistry. They don't use mercury anymore, by the way.

96440612cf0fcf366bf5ad8f776fca84

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on July 28, 2012
at 12:18 PM

I for one haven't seen a dentist since I was a kid -- and I plan to keep it that way. Vitamins K, D, A, E, and minerals such as Magnesium keep the dentists and their mercury away.

96440612cf0fcf366bf5ad8f776fca84

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on July 28, 2012
at 12:16 PM

I think the real question isn't whether we're doing a historical re-enactment, but rather "Oh shit, I can't do coffee because it makes me sick, and I can't understand why so many people here do it" and unsaid (what can I do to not get sick other than avoiding it.) Sadly the last part doesn't have an answer. :(

96440612cf0fcf366bf5ad8f776fca84

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on July 28, 2012
at 12:14 PM

and the sad thing is that cocaine is probably less damaging to human health than cola. As for scrotum, I wouldn't know, but there are people out there that eat Rocky Mountain Oysters, so that part's probably disgustingly paleo.

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on June 25, 2012
at 07:29 PM

I suppose I mis-wrote my question- I meant it like this- most people on paleo are doing so for health reasons- so why do they cling to coffee so much- addiction????

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on June 25, 2012
at 07:28 PM

You can find studies that say the same of minimal amounts of alcohol but you can find studies that say EXACTLY the opposite- http://www.mercola.com/Downloads/bonus/coffee/report.aspx I tend to trust most of what Dr Mercola posts- despite the fact that he is always trying to sell something...

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on June 25, 2012
at 07:24 PM

I don't have to desire to actively drink it- just wondering why so many people who are concerned with health can't seem to let it go.

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on June 15, 2012
at 09:14 PM

i don't get it.

A968087cc1dd66d480749c02e4619ef4

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on June 15, 2012
at 04:58 PM

Say it ain't so! Or at least leave me my bacon and eggs. ;)

A968087cc1dd66d480749c02e4619ef4

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on June 15, 2012
at 04:54 PM

Really? Seriously? I'm TRYING to be good here, but you make it SO hard!

A968087cc1dd66d480749c02e4619ef4

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on June 15, 2012
at 04:52 PM

She's all right, she's all right, she's all right...

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at 04:51 PM

I blame Mark Sisson: http://www.marksdailyapple.com/coffee-tea-caffeine-talk/#axzz1xsiKY5Qo

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on June 15, 2012
at 05:08 AM

Well I hope if I ever eat pizza and pasta I'm also doing cocaine.

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on June 15, 2012
at 01:06 AM

you read my mind, karen.

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on June 15, 2012
at 01:05 AM

haha at first i thought you were insulting him by calling him scrotum and i was like wow great diss never heard that before and then i saw it was his name. i think thats going to be my go to insult from now on.

A7768b6c6be7f5d6acc76e5efa66464c

on June 15, 2012
at 12:03 AM

No, it's nothing like pizza and coke, Scrotum.

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on June 14, 2012
at 11:15 PM

This has been asked so many time! Try searching for coffee

5ccb98f6ae42ce87e206cf3f6a86039f

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on June 14, 2012
at 09:48 PM

Obviously the ultimate beverage of the gods is mocha.

782d92f4127823bdfb2ddfcbcf961d0e

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on June 14, 2012
at 06:40 PM

you must mean chocolate...theobroma...food of the gods.

De641ff2accb4975e1f42886b43009db

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on June 14, 2012
at 06:20 PM

+1 for describing coffee as lush

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on June 14, 2012
at 05:56 PM

WOOHOO! Sounds good to me! ;) On another note, I've always wondered about that -- how much of the actual "nutritional? (antioxidant) properties of coffee survive the drying/roasting/blasting with hot water process? I guess enough of them do to still give the final brew something good for ya.

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on June 14, 2012
at 05:54 PM

And pizza, pasta, coke, etc.

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on June 14, 2012
at 05:11 PM

I enjoy coffee with coconut oil and butter, and it is the least of the evil I *could* consume. The caffeine helps reduce inflammation in my airway on bad air days, without having to use an inhaled corticosteriod or rescue inhaler. If you like coffee but it makes you ill, have you tried the "coffee" made from chicory root?

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on June 14, 2012
at 05:07 PM

maybe you can enjoy it with less coffee and more cream? I always find a way to get my coffee unless I'm extremely ill.

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on June 14, 2012
at 04:52 PM

@ Joshua- interesting. They're called coffee beans so I always assumed it was just a bean. But then again, peanuts are not nuts. Thanks for the info.

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on June 14, 2012
at 04:48 PM

And seriously, another dig on LC just because of your assumptions?

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on June 14, 2012
at 04:47 PM

I also think it's probably fine for many in the grand scheme of things. All of us have our vices, and pros against cons, coffee may come out as more of a pro for some. It just doesn't for me and apparently you as well. i have other vices that I don't give up even though they are not paleo.

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on June 14, 2012
at 04:47 PM

FFS Forveryoung - Coffee "beans" are not beans at all. They are the pit of the Coffee fruit (technically a drupe seed, like cherries). For what it's worth, I don't consider coffee as part of my "health plan", I consider it my "enjoy my coffee and GTFO if you don't agree" plan.

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on June 14, 2012
at 04:43 PM

I really enjoy coffee too, but I seldom drink it because it makes me sick immediately as well. I also feel generally less stable when I drink it. Not all caffeine effects me like this, but coffee does. I think it may have something to do with the alkaloids in it not being good for me particularly (same with real, dark chocolate). It is the one bean that seems to be an exception amongst paleo-oriented individuals. I suspect even more so among the low carb/primal crowd.

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De641ff2accb4975e1f42886b43009db

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on June 14, 2012
at 04:43 PM

I don't consider it paleo. I would file it within the realm of exceptions like wine, chocolate, etc.

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(2338)

on June 15, 2012
at 01:05 AM

haha at first i thought you were insulting him by calling him scrotum and i was like wow great diss never heard that before and then i saw it was his name. i think thats going to be my go to insult from now on.

5ef574d7893bc816ec52e04139e9bc09

(6097)

on June 14, 2012
at 05:54 PM

And pizza, pasta, coke, etc.

A7768b6c6be7f5d6acc76e5efa66464c

on June 15, 2012
at 12:03 AM

No, it's nothing like pizza and coke, Scrotum.

A968087cc1dd66d480749c02e4619ef4

(20436)

on June 15, 2012
at 04:52 PM

She's all right, she's all right, she's all right...

A2c38be4c54c91a15071f82f14cac0b3

(12682)

on June 15, 2012
at 05:08 AM

Well I hope if I ever eat pizza and pasta I'm also doing cocaine.

De641ff2accb4975e1f42886b43009db

(2227)

on July 28, 2012
at 03:19 PM

lol hey raydawg, just so you know "Kasra" used to call him(her?)self "Scrotum" on PH...

96440612cf0fcf366bf5ad8f776fca84

(19413)

on July 28, 2012
at 12:14 PM

and the sad thing is that cocaine is probably less damaging to human health than cola. As for scrotum, I wouldn't know, but there are people out there that eat Rocky Mountain Oysters, so that part's probably disgustingly paleo.

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on July 28, 2012
at 10:36 AM

Pros of coffee consumption:

  • To many people, coffee is absolutely delicious and a great way to stay on tract with a paleo diet without indulging in other unhealthy choices.
  • It improves cognitive performance, reaction time and short term recall.
  • Coffee stimulates peristalsis and can help those who suffer from constipation.
  • According to the latest studies on the subject, moderate coffee consumption seems to be protective against cardiovascular disease.
  • Coffee contains beneficial antioxidants, methylpyridinium being the most well known one.
  • Coffee seems to offer protection to the liver and has been found to reduce the incidence of liver cancer.

Cons of coffee consumption:

  • Caffeine can trigger the release of unhealthy levels of cortisol in some people. Chronically elevated cortisol levels is bad news for a multitude of reasons. Think weight-gain, disturbed sleep patterns, depressed immune system???
  • Coffee hinders iron absorption because of its tannin content. It can therefore further exacerbate iron deficiency.
  • Regular coffee consumption seems to decrease insulin sensitivity, which can translate to weight gain and increased risk of developing type 2 diabetes. Studies have mixed results about the insulin desensitizing effects of coffee, but the most coherent ones make it clear that the effect is negative.
  • Many people believe that coffee is a diuretic, which means that it makes you lose free water and can therefore lead to dehydration and electrolyte imbalances. Studies have shown though that, in the long term, coffee doesn???t have a diuretic effect after you???ve become used to it. Drinking coffee only very sporadically could still bring about the diuretic effects since the body would lose its habituation to the effect.
  • Coffee irritates the tissues of the gastrointestinal tract and can exacerbate those with ulcers, IBS, gastritis or other such gastrointestinal disorders.

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on June 14, 2012
at 10:44 PM

It gives me the will to live.

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on June 14, 2012
at 04:48 PM

It's not. If you search the archives you'll find a number of discussions of coffee. People consume coffee because they like it. I don't think anyone pretends that it's paleo. And, if it's not hurting you it's all good!

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Fd70d71f4f8195c3a098eda4fc817d4f

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on June 14, 2012
at 05:05 PM

Like people say: Asking questions on PaleoHacks on your computer/smartphone/other gizmo isn't "Paleo," but here we all are, eh?

We're not trying to literally eat like it's 12,000 BC -- just trying to optimize health, longevity, and fitness. And we all have our own individual idea of what "optimal" is. Some people might find a life without coffee (or butter, or wine, or the occasional piece of cheesecake) not worth making longer.

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on June 15, 2012
at 12:25 AM

No doubt our "advancement" over the last 100 years or so has caused us a lot of problems. But an important part of respecting our evolutionary heritage is to recognize that we're incredibly intelligent beings who can learn, experiment, and do new and different things that are good for us--even if our paleolithic ancestors didn't do it.

I for one am a fan of electricity, dentistry, and the internets. Oh--and coffee, of course.

A7768b6c6be7f5d6acc76e5efa66464c

on July 28, 2012
at 02:06 PM

Just curious if you were on those nutrients from childhood? Unfortunately, my childhood diet led to quite a number of cavities. This stopped when I reached adulthood and ate differently, but the damage was done. Teeth with fillings often need treatment later (fillings get loose, decay resumes, or teeth crack--all of this has happened to me). Still, I'd rather keep the teeth, fillings and all, than have lost them when I was a kid, which was pretty much the only other option without dentistry. They don't use mercury anymore, by the way.

96440612cf0fcf366bf5ad8f776fca84

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on July 28, 2012
at 12:18 PM

I for one haven't seen a dentist since I was a kid -- and I plan to keep it that way. Vitamins K, D, A, E, and minerals such as Magnesium keep the dentists and their mercury away.

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on June 14, 2012
at 10:12 PM

I'd give up grass fed beef before my home roasted bulletproof coffee.

A968087cc1dd66d480749c02e4619ef4

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on June 15, 2012
at 04:58 PM

Say it ain't so! Or at least leave me my bacon and eggs. ;)

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on June 14, 2012
at 08:32 PM

I don't have anything to add re: coffee but I get confused as to why people are so afraid of "non-paleo" things yet we do so many things in our lives that are non-paleo. Drive cars, use air conditioning, use computers to talk about the paleo lifestyle, etc, etc, etc. I will probably get downvoted for this but let's get a grip, folks!

E45c5a1c8df73da5e03bb6e7e90f8420

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on June 25, 2012
at 07:29 PM

I suppose I mis-wrote my question- I meant it like this- most people on paleo are doing so for health reasons- so why do they cling to coffee so much- addiction????

96440612cf0fcf366bf5ad8f776fca84

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on July 28, 2012
at 12:16 PM

I think the real question isn't whether we're doing a historical re-enactment, but rather "Oh shit, I can't do coffee because it makes me sick, and I can't understand why so many people here do it" and unsaid (what can I do to not get sick other than avoiding it.) Sadly the last part doesn't have an answer. :(

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on June 14, 2012
at 07:28 PM

This long, well cited article on the blog Primal, MD is one of my favorite overviews of the mostly beneficial health effects of coffee and caffeine.

Coffee consumption certainly isn't good for everyone. Some people have bad reactions to coffee. It also probably isn't good to use coffee as a crutch when your energy levels suck, either due to insufficient sleep or a low carb diet that isn't working for you (see: me last year for the latter). But if you tolerate coffee and drink it moderately, it has a surprising number of health benefits that may make it worth drinking.

As far as wether it's paleo; probably not, which is why I initially viewed it with skepticism. But neolithic foods can still be healthy and I've come to believe that such is the case for coffee.

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on June 14, 2012
at 06:19 PM

It's not necessarily healthy but then paleo isn't a nazi regime, I drink a cup most mornings because it's lush and makes me happy for a little while!

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on June 14, 2012
at 06:20 PM

+1 for describing coffee as lush

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on June 14, 2012
at 04:52 PM

I wouldn't consider it a healthy paleo option, probably not very paleo at all. But, I love the heck out of it! I've also spent a few years making it for other folks, I personally drink 2 cups every morning. I also feel that I've given up so many things and tried for 8 years to figure out why my guts have been hurting. And now that I've figured it out, I'm keeping my coffee. It's very acidic, and so is wine, but both of these options are way better than some of the rather unhealthy habits I used to have.

If it isn't for you, don't force it upon yourself.

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on June 14, 2012
at 04:49 PM

i don't have the time to link all the studies showing the positive benefits of drinking coffee but if you just look through martin berkehans (leangains.com) twitter account you'll find them all there. coffee is the elixir of the gods.

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on June 14, 2012
at 09:48 PM

Obviously the ultimate beverage of the gods is mocha.

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on June 14, 2012
at 06:40 PM

you must mean chocolate...theobroma...food of the gods.

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on June 15, 2012
at 09:14 PM

i don't get it.

Medium avatar

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on June 15, 2012
at 01:06 AM

you read my mind, karen.

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on June 15, 2012
at 04:54 PM

Really? Seriously? I'm TRYING to be good here, but you make it SO hard!

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on June 14, 2012
at 05:13 PM

The most recent long-term study indicates that the more coffee consumed, the fewer the health problems and increased longevity. In fact, those that consumed 5-6 cups per day benefitted the most. There was no difference between the decaf and full caf coffee drinkers. Therefore, they are certain that caffeine is not playing a part, and that there is some kind of antioxidant effect.

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on June 14, 2012
at 05:56 PM

WOOHOO! Sounds good to me! ;) On another note, I've always wondered about that -- how much of the actual "nutritional? (antioxidant) properties of coffee survive the drying/roasting/blasting with hot water process? I guess enough of them do to still give the final brew something good for ya.

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on June 25, 2012
at 07:28 PM

You can find studies that say the same of minimal amounts of alcohol but you can find studies that say EXACTLY the opposite- http://www.mercola.com/Downloads/bonus/coffee/report.aspx I tend to trust most of what Dr Mercola posts- despite the fact that he is always trying to sell something...

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on November 27, 2012
at 06:57 PM

from what i have heard organo gold is one of the healthiest coffee http://mycapturepage.com/cp23.php?id=470

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