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Hack my coffee creation!

Answered on August 19, 2014
Created November 30, 2012 at 12:20 AM

Coffee discovery! I am trying to drink only black coffee, which ive come to appreciate, but I miss the feel, flavor, and fullness of added cream or coconut milk.

Have any of you ever tried cold brewed coffee? It's character is very different from hot brew. More fragrant, aromatic, and clean, with little acidity, bite, or off flavors; heat brings out negative qualities and that's why you limit brew time. Cold brew takes 12 or more hours. The problem has been that it lacks body or fullness. The flavors were amazing but felt empty.

Today, I took the mix of grounds and water which had been sitting for 12hrs, and put them in my 3.5hp commercial blender. It frothed into what I can only describe as pure heaven! It seemed to have rusty-brown crema like a proper espresso on top, and the flavor and consistency was as if I had added copious heavy cream!

The caveat: I used a medium fine green tea strainer basket which has coarser mesh than a French press strainer, but much finer than a common strainer, which allowed some particulate/coffee dust to "embody" the brew! It's feel is almost Turkish.

The combination of the micro coffee dust, the unheated oils and colloids being frothed into an espresso crema, and the added whip cream "sweet and smooth" effect all came together to give the brew more feel, body, fullness and texture than ANY espresso or French press hot brew I've ever had, and kept all the other superior benefits of cold brew, the fragrance and aromatic perfection!

It tastes and feels like some guilty treat I shouldn't be having, but with ONLY coffee! No calories!

Use 40 grams of coffee, 600 grams (mL) of water, grind on the finest setting, stir well into the water, cover, and let sit for 12-24hrs. Pour the mixture into the strongest blender you have, blend well, and strain through a semi-fine tea mesh basket.

What do you all think is at play here? Does the blender bring out oils and colloids that cold brew would otherwise leave behind, and hot brew tends to oxidize and make "off" tasting? I'm site the "Turkish" effect has something to do with it, but I always use that same tea strainer with my hot brew anyway, and that alone doesn't give this ecstatically delicious creamy effect.

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on February 22, 2013
at 06:28 AM

I think that heat is more a product of time under friction that power. That is, my warring is so much more powerful than a Vitamix (I've used both) that it does more work in a fraction of the time. That coffee water/grind mixture is liquified VERY quickly, in about 20-30 seconds. No, it never has a chance to get hot. Incidentally my warring liquifies raw or cooked beef in the same amount of time.

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on February 21, 2013
at 08:23 PM

@animal Yeah, didn't know you were trying to burn body fat. I've been in keto for 1.5 years and fasting causes me to waste away. 5'10" and 120 pounds, I really don't want my body burn it's caloric stores. Just curious because like you, I eat ketogenic because I feel like I perform and think the best that way currently.

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on February 21, 2013
at 12:15 PM

When I drink coffee I have it black, so can't speak for others, but isn't the idea that one can get some of the benefits of fasting while being somewhat energised? For such folk leaning out/calorie restriction might not be the goal. Anyway, the benefits re 'autophagy' may be less clear cut than many would have me believe... http://www.dangerouslyhardcore.com/1425/intermittent-fasting-part-3-go-eat-yourself/

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on February 21, 2013
at 05:44 AM

I fast from 8pm to 12am. Any calories in my coffee defeat that point. During that time my body is a fat burning furnace. I want to burn bodyfat, not add fat to my coffee so that it burns that instead. Furthermore, any calories on a fast make me hungrier unless its a proper meal. I'm a purist; fast, or eat. It's gotten me very, very lean. Lastly, butter or oil in my coffee pale in comparison to coconut milk taste wise, so if I want to cheat the above, that's what I do. I can't understand the rationale of fasting yet guzzling butter because one cannot tolerate the hunger. Fast or eat.

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on February 10, 2013
at 03:06 AM

If you heat it a) it defeats the point of cold brewing and b) it will taste like crap.

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on January 24, 2013
at 10:22 PM

Well, I don't think all the oils come out. It's a different flavor, less body, more fragrance. Apparently the "off" flavors that can become infused in coffee come from the heated oils. Anyway, blended after the soaking as I've detailed returns a great deal of body. It's pretty darn heavy, full, fragrant, and delicious, if overpowering at times. I love it.

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on January 16, 2013
at 11:36 PM

Try it. You'll see.

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on February 21, 2013
at 01:56 AM

I think we need a picture of how you did it and the end product.

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on February 21, 2013
at 11:12 AM

Does it get hot due to the action of the blender? I have a Vitamix and though I have never tried it, they claim you can make hot soup from raw ingredients just from the action of the blender. Then you could have it "hot" and still a cold brew.

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on February 22, 2013
at 06:28 AM

I think that heat is more a product of time under friction that power. That is, my warring is so much more powerful than a Vitamix (I've used both) that it does more work in a fraction of the time. That coffee water/grind mixture is liquified VERY quickly, in about 20-30 seconds. No, it never has a chance to get hot. Incidentally my warring liquifies raw or cooked beef in the same amount of time.

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on February 21, 2013
at 01:53 AM

If I want frothy coffee I add butter/ghee, coconut oil, or whey protein concentrate and put it in the blender. I'm definitely going to try your method because I have never attempted cold brew before and that sounds great. Is there a reason you want to avoid calories, though? I love buttered coffee.

Eed7dabde3d61910685845e04605267f

(2934)

on February 21, 2013
at 12:15 PM

When I drink coffee I have it black, so can't speak for others, but isn't the idea that one can get some of the benefits of fasting while being somewhat energised? For such folk leaning out/calorie restriction might not be the goal. Anyway, the benefits re 'autophagy' may be less clear cut than many would have me believe... http://www.dangerouslyhardcore.com/1425/intermittent-fasting-part-3-go-eat-yourself/

33266cca338ab54cee9a2aa160f5bdb6

(502)

on February 21, 2013
at 08:23 PM

@animal Yeah, didn't know you were trying to burn body fat. I've been in keto for 1.5 years and fasting causes me to waste away. 5'10" and 120 pounds, I really don't want my body burn it's caloric stores. Just curious because like you, I eat ketogenic because I feel like I perform and think the best that way currently.

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(2417)

on February 21, 2013
at 05:44 AM

I fast from 8pm to 12am. Any calories in my coffee defeat that point. During that time my body is a fat burning furnace. I want to burn bodyfat, not add fat to my coffee so that it burns that instead. Furthermore, any calories on a fast make me hungrier unless its a proper meal. I'm a purist; fast, or eat. It's gotten me very, very lean. Lastly, butter or oil in my coffee pale in comparison to coconut milk taste wise, so if I want to cheat the above, that's what I do. I can't understand the rationale of fasting yet guzzling butter because one cannot tolerate the hunger. Fast or eat.

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on February 07, 2013
at 07:27 PM

Do you cold brew it, then heat it up in the microwave? Or just drink it cold?

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on February 10, 2013
at 03:06 AM

If you heat it a) it defeats the point of cold brewing and b) it will taste like crap.

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on January 24, 2013
at 06:09 PM

That sounds amazing! It's perfect for the summer. Thanks for posting!

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on January 24, 2013
at 01:12 PM

I wonder how the oils are extracted, as as far as I know coffee "needs" to be brewed at around 93 degrees Celcius in order to get all the good oils out.

I'd like to try some cold brew!

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(2417)

on January 24, 2013
at 10:22 PM

Well, I don't think all the oils come out. It's a different flavor, less body, more fragrance. Apparently the "off" flavors that can become infused in coffee come from the heated oils. Anyway, blended after the soaking as I've detailed returns a great deal of body. It's pretty darn heavy, full, fragrant, and delicious, if overpowering at times. I love it.

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on January 16, 2013
at 09:06 PM

I cannot unbiasedly comment since I only drink hot black coffee. Sounds good but again I will only drink it hot and black. Sounds like a n=1 on the wife :§

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(2417)

on January 16, 2013
at 11:36 PM

Try it. You'll see.

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on January 02, 2013
at 07:27 PM

wow sounds good. I cant comment as to what made it that awesome...but I'm going to try it!

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