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Do you drink coffee/ Should I give up coffee?

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Created September 07, 2012 at 6:14 AM

I'm new to this and am wondering if I should drink coffee or not. Do you find it helpful or harmful? Does it make a difference? I have also read both views on coffee makes you thin/ coffee makes you fat, what are everyone's thoughts on that?

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(2417)

on December 03, 2012
at 01:15 AM

Holy shit #3 has caught me! Been on coffee everyday for a couple months now. I've not eaten sugar or junk for nearly 20years. Suddenly I craved my old friend ice cream. For the last month, while continuing to follow the Leangains I'd been strictly adhering to for months, I have been getting uncontrollable cravings for it only at night, and several times a week have capitulated into 20 or more ice cream bars! It seems like some cocaine addiction!

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(2417)

on December 03, 2012
at 01:07 AM

Just an update, I've been on a lot of coffee every say since this thread, and have been able to tolerate it. But something happened; I started craving ice cream at sundown and have completely been unable to resist powerful mental cravings that, before coffee, my willpower kept safely and sternly in check. It's literally gotten out of control like some bad coke habit.

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(1021)

on October 05, 2012
at 04:39 PM

once you go black...

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on September 30, 2012
at 07:08 PM

Or just learn to like it black.

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(2417)

on September 08, 2012
at 06:09 AM

It's making your nervous system work harder, and stimulates adrenaline. That costs. It doesn't come out of thin air. There's no special energy content in coffee to pay for it. Coffee simply squeezes more out of your body. Some get much more stimulation and kick than others. Interestingly, the folks that get the most jacked from coffee are already wired naturally, and easy going types seem to stay mellow on coffee; ever notice that? I for one get stimulates as much as something illegal. And, my personality is stuck in fight or flight from a stressful childhood anyway.

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on September 08, 2012
at 01:19 AM

This is the important point, most coffee are high in mycotoxins, which gives you the jitters and makes you weak. Good coffee dose not make you fat good coffee has thermogenic fat burning properties. Coffee is extremely healthy and I strongly suggests you read through the coffee articles at http://www.bulletproofexec.com/coffee-5-reasons-you-can-perform-better-10-ways-to-live-longer/

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on September 07, 2012
at 10:40 PM

I switched from coffee to yerba mate a few weeks ago and have noticed a significant improvement in overall well being. Less tired and less wired with significantly less cortisol spiking caffeine! http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2257922/

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on September 07, 2012
at 08:52 PM

I see no payback on a pot a day.

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(10611)

on September 07, 2012
at 08:43 PM

No doubt in my mind that goats learned to eat the beans from nomadic paleos. Goats are pretty smart.

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(2338)

on September 07, 2012
at 07:11 PM

in regards to the whole enjoy today, pay tomorrow thing if one drinks coffee everyday and doesn't see any negative side effects when or how are they paying?

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on September 07, 2012
at 11:35 AM

Sadly, I have come to the same conclusion. I eliminated all caffeine about a week ago, and now I'm sleeping like a baby for 9-11 (!) hours a night, something I haven't been able to do for years.

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on September 07, 2012
at 09:29 AM

I agree with the above two posters. It jacks up my nervous system, and wears if down, something fierce. After enough days of it, I'm literally worn down. But, the workout power it affords is unmatched, the fat burning (while IF'ing) potential is significant, the awesome mood it puts you in is super, it tastes great when prepared right, it's fun to master that perfect preparation ritual, it gives me something to look forward to, and it's just plain fun. However, most of those positives are just "borrowing from Peter to pay Paul" as it were; it doesn't give you energy and positive neurotransmitters out of thin air. Like other drugs, it borrows tomorrow's energy and positivity and lets you enjoy two days worth in one day. But you've gotta pay it back!

So I go off it for years, miss it, rationalize it, enjoy it, pay for it with suffering, and quit again, repeat.

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(2338)

on September 07, 2012
at 07:11 PM

in regards to the whole enjoy today, pay tomorrow thing if one drinks coffee everyday and doesn't see any negative side effects when or how are they paying?

Medium avatar

(10611)

on September 07, 2012
at 08:52 PM

I see no payback on a pot a day.

Cd717290eb43a6e17061f9920deed977

(1267)

on September 07, 2012
at 11:35 AM

Sadly, I have come to the same conclusion. I eliminated all caffeine about a week ago, and now I'm sleeping like a baby for 9-11 (!) hours a night, something I haven't been able to do for years.

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(2417)

on September 08, 2012
at 06:09 AM

It's making your nervous system work harder, and stimulates adrenaline. That costs. It doesn't come out of thin air. There's no special energy content in coffee to pay for it. Coffee simply squeezes more out of your body. Some get much more stimulation and kick than others. Interestingly, the folks that get the most jacked from coffee are already wired naturally, and easy going types seem to stay mellow on coffee; ever notice that? I for one get stimulates as much as something illegal. And, my personality is stuck in fight or flight from a stressful childhood anyway.

Medium avatar

(2417)

on December 03, 2012
at 01:07 AM

Just an update, I've been on a lot of coffee every say since this thread, and have been able to tolerate it. But something happened; I started craving ice cream at sundown and have completely been unable to resist powerful mental cravings that, before coffee, my willpower kept safely and sternly in check. It's literally gotten out of control like some bad coke habit.

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on September 07, 2012
at 10:52 AM

Do you what you want. There's no point in stressing over something so small as coffee. A cup or two a day shouldn't hurt(depends what you mix it with). I personally drink it whenever i feel like drinking which is about once in 2-3 days.

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on September 07, 2012
at 06:48 AM

I don't think I've met a bigger bunch of coffee drinkers than people who eat paleo. I think the general consensus is that organic coffee is perfectly fine as long as your body isn't addicted to it. Coffee is full of antioxidants and trace minerals, and it tastes awesome. The only think un-paleo about it would be if you had sugar with it. Milk, while not strictly paleo is ok as long as you can tolerate it.

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on September 07, 2012
at 08:43 PM

No doubt in my mind that goats learned to eat the beans from nomadic paleos. Goats are pretty smart.

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on September 08, 2012
at 04:40 AM

I spent years Tryning to convince myself that coffee was a good thing for me but recently had to get real that it really isn't. Your mileage may vary, but for me coffee and caffeine do the following:

  1. Slowly I build tolerance over weeks and have to use more to get a boost, until I can't even get a boost anymore and instead just want to sleep after a big coffee.

  2. Then when I stop I get 3-4 days of migraine like headaches followed by about 10 days of general sluggishness.

  3. For me coffee intensifies any sugar or carb cravings I might have to an obsessive/compulsive degree. I am only successful at following my food plan when I'm not using coffee or caffeine. Note that coffee does work for me as an appetite suppressant- for several hours. Then, generally at night, I would get uncontrollable cravings.

  4. When I am using coffee my general anxiety level goes up for no good reason at random times. Off coffee I hardly experience anxiety at all

So for these reasons I personally finally gave up coffee and caffeine. It seems to be fine for most people but with reasons like these I stay away now, and feel so much better for it. My energy level and moods are even and positive, and I am losing the weight I want to because I can stick to my food plan without being hijacked by mad cravings.

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(2417)

on December 03, 2012
at 01:15 AM

Holy shit #3 has caught me! Been on coffee everyday for a couple months now. I've not eaten sugar or junk for nearly 20years. Suddenly I craved my old friend ice cream. For the last month, while continuing to follow the Leangains I'd been strictly adhering to for months, I have been getting uncontrollable cravings for it only at night, and several times a week have capitulated into 20 or more ice cream bars! It seems like some cocaine addiction!

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(10611)

on September 07, 2012
at 08:47 PM

Yes/yes. I'm more concerned with your psychosomatic stress than what the coffee does physically. If you're worried about it don't drink it. As for me it's ancestral rocket fuel needed for a successful launch every morning.

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on September 07, 2012
at 08:33 AM

Personal experience, I used to be a big coffee drinker ever since I was a junior in highschool, everyday one cup in the morning (and sometimes another in the afternoon.) I didn't think the stuff was harmful or that I was addicted to the stuff, more of out of habit than anything else. That was until I found out about how coffee crops are heavily sprayed with all sorts of chemicals and I couldn't afford the organic kind.

I stopped cold turkey and the first few days I had low energy levels and was irritable, kind of like coming off sugar. After that though, I've experienced more consistent levels of energy. I didn't need a pick me up in the afternoon and my mood improved. And I haven't really subsituted my coffee habit with tea or anything else. I just drink plain water now.

However, now I think I'm much more sensitive to the stuff. If I have a cup of coffee, I get a jolt that I haven't noticed before when I was having my 1 cup / day routine. I don't find the feeling pleasant, so I stay away from the stuff.

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on September 07, 2012
at 07:32 AM

Many others as well as myself would still continue to drink coffee whether it's " Paleo " or not. It's delicious and something I look forward to every morning. As long as it's not giving you any negative problems I say stick with it, just avoid the artificial flavorings/creamers and added sugar.

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on September 08, 2012
at 01:06 AM

I don't drink coffee. For one, I am told it promotes production of cortisol, the stress hormone. This can lead to abdominal weight gain, among other negative effects.

Second, I have IBS and coffee is way too strong for my digestive system.

I don't think it's that horrible to drink coffee, but I think our society is dependent on it in an unhealthy way. People get way less sleep than they need, knowing they can line up at Starbucks before work in the morning. Because I can't count on caffeine to make me alert, I actually have to get enough sleep every night. If I am really out of it I'll have a cup of weak earl grey tea, but that's it.

That being said, the stuff sure smells good.

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on September 07, 2012
at 07:22 PM

I never drank coffee at all until I started paleo/primal lifestyle. I've found it helps curb my appetite and I love the taste. I just go with regular coffee with quite a bit of cream in it, no sugar. I don't really find any effect from the caffeine, so that's not really an issue for me. I have about a cup a day.

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on September 30, 2012
at 07:08 PM

Or just learn to like it black.

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on October 05, 2012
at 04:39 PM

once you go black...

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on September 07, 2012
at 08:40 AM

I personally avoid coffee (but more accurately caffeine) due to unwanted side effects. I feel I can better understand my energy needs when I don't have caffeine giving me false indications of how tired I am. There is also the caffeine hangover, which affects my mental focus and also affects food cravings.

Since giving up caffeine (6 months) I've been far more alert, and have had a more prolonged and stable level of energy.

I think as long as you remember coffee contains a very active drug, it's up to you. You should definiately try giving it up some time just to see what you find.

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on November 27, 2012
at 06:34 PM

I live on organo gold coffee. its healthy for you http://mycapturepage.com/cp23.php?id=470

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on September 08, 2012
at 05:02 AM

My perception of coffee ha changed ever since I started reading the bulletproofexecutiv.com by dave asprey. He has a lot of great info pertaining to coffee, more than i'll ever know, but I'll try to summarize his finding correctly

  • The jittery and paranoid feeling one gets from coffee is not caused by the caffeine,rather, the formation of mycotoxin brought on by poor preperation.
  • caffeine i a powerful aid in fat loss
  • coffee boosts cognitive performance
  • the processing of coffee matter immenely and he sells "upgraded" beans, and also gives guides on finding the best beans in your city.

From personal experience I can say i found a local coffee place called birdrock coffee roasters, bought some wet processed guatalmalan coffee made by a pourover, and felt amazing. I recently ordered my hario pourover and can't wait to brew for myself

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on September 08, 2012
at 03:32 AM

I've thought about doing a 30-day, coffee-less approach to see what changes I notice. I've been doing hefty Bulletproof coffee, anywhere from 16-34 ounces a day at least 5-6 days a week.

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on September 07, 2012
at 08:39 PM

I loooove the smell of coffee! I could walk up and down the coffee aisle in the grocery store for hours...but...I can't drink it. Causes cystic breasts for me, and I have adrenal problems, don't sleep well at night. Though, if someone in my family just happens to buy chocolate covered coffee beans I might have one (or a few) of them.

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on September 07, 2012
at 08:23 PM

Personally I love the taste of coffee but it is not good for me hormonally. WHen I drink coffee, I get hungry for some reason. Also, coffee stimulates the sympathetic nervous system, so it triggers both cortisol and a rush of blood sugar out of the muscles and liver and into the blood stream. This does two things. 1) it turns you into sugar burner and 2) it opposes testosterone from the cortisol release. There are also studies showing coffee to negatively impact insulin sensitivity, at least in the short run. Finally, it is addictive and you build up a tolerance to it, which makes it difficult to get activated without it. For these reasons I choose not to make coffee a daily ritual.

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on September 07, 2012
at 07:41 AM

Coffee is a common cross reactor, esp if you have some sort of allergy i.e. gluten, casein, nightshades, nuts, whatever.. So maybe if some food allergy plagues you maybe abstain for a little while until you get all the alergen out of your system.

If you do get coffee I heard try to get wet processed, high altitude beans (usually coffees from central america meet this) it will be lower in mycotoxins. Because there is less chances of fungal growth at such high altitudes, and the wet process washes the beans :)

Remember even though roasting may kill of the fungus it won't remove the toxins it releases.

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on September 08, 2012
at 01:19 AM

This is the important point, most coffee are high in mycotoxins, which gives you the jitters and makes you weak. Good coffee dose not make you fat good coffee has thermogenic fat burning properties. Coffee is extremely healthy and I strongly suggests you read through the coffee articles at http://www.bulletproofexec.com/coffee-5-reasons-you-can-perform-better-10-ways-to-live-longer/

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