0

votes

coffee or painkillers less harmful?

Answered on September 17, 2014
Created February 04, 2013 at 1:52 AM

I've had severe debilitating muscle pain and headaches for years and am yet to get a diagnosis mainly because most doctors have treated me as a drug seeker, hypochondriac, or medical-certificante-so-I-can-have-a-day-off-work seeker. When my condition really deteriorated I was diagnosed with osteoporosis which improved and became osteopenia a couple of years later (after starting on the primal/paleo diet).

So, the only two things that really have any helpful impact on my pain when it gets really extreme is an over the counter drug containing codeine and ibuprofen, and coffee (or both together to get a quick response to really strong pain). When I was diagnosed with osteoporosis I stopped coffee and leaned more on the painkiller drug. Lately I have been leaning more towards coffee because 2 coffees in a day just seem to keep my pain levels down then I don't need to respond with urgency to really strong pain. A nurse relative also recently explained to me the organ damage that codeine can cause - something that has influenced me to lean towards coffee I will admit.

Already I know that coffee is supposed to cause micro-nutrients to be excreted unused so doesn't sound like a good friend to bone health. This is why I had leaned towards the painkiller for years. Before primal/paleo I had a lot of problems with diarrhoea. During that time I developed a problem with urination - feel unable to completely empty bladder without returning to the toilet two or three times in quick succession. Then today I saw a Weston Price article on my facebook feed that prompted me to try to search for nutrient interactions for the painkiller (which I had trouble getting anywhere with) but find out that for codeine a known side-effect is urinary retention.

So, here I am wondering, as I often have - which is the lesser evil - coffee or painkillers? I know neither is good or even neutral but a life lived curled up in a ball on the floor crying because of constant extreme pain is no life at all so a compromise must be made.

So the question is - which do you think is the lesser evil - coffee or painkillers, and why?

  • 1f711e2d8bb0a91c5f64f5db04aba01c

    asked by

    (40)
  • Views
    1.3K
  • Last Activity
    1257D AGO
Frontpage book

Get FREE instant access to our Paleo For Beginners Guide & 15 FREE Recipes!

4 Answers

0
E23363d46a6308c0990b478ac31d5eb4

on September 17, 2014
at 10:22 AM

Coffee is much safer compared to over the counter painkillers. After all, coffee grows on a tree, as well as painkillers grow in a factory. Stick with the coffee for the time being, but try some other thigns and find out if you can get yourself drinking much less coffee and treating your self with lots of real, healthy foods.

0
Ed7403e397077dd1acdbf25c7f6e56ce

on February 04, 2013
at 01:59 AM

Codeine does not cause organ damage. Anyone who says so is absolutely wrong. Opiates are water soluble. The dangerous part of any painkiller is the NSAID element and possibly the inactive ingredients.

That said, unless you're 'rinsing' your painkillers they are extremely toxic. I would say way more so than coffee.

However, as related specifically to osteoporosis, coffee may or may not be the better option. I think I would go with the coffee. More natural. Unless you plan to rinse your pills.

-1
Medium avatar

(167)

on September 16, 2014
at 08:50 PM

Coffee is much safer than over the counter painkillers. After all, coffee grows on a tree, and painkillers grow in a factory.

That said, drinking a LOT of coffee will have a big diuretic effect, and you won't get as many nutrients out of your food.

Bone broth contains a lot of the same components in osteoperosis "medicine," with the added benefit of it being super-cheap to make, and easy to work into your meals. Adding lots of anti-inflammatory foods might help with bone pain and muscle pain - my favorites are garlic and ginger, but if you look them up you'll find dozens of food combinations that can bring down pain. Fish oil is supposed to help, or you could always just eat fish. :)

Stick with the coffee for now, but try some other thigns and see if you can get yourself drinking less coffee and treating yourself with lots of real, healthy foods. :)

-3
90ca1400d597cff69ec5f9c193c4d667

on February 04, 2013
at 05:40 AM

nothing wrong with coffee as long as you have it on a full stomach w/ plenty of sugar and cream....pain killers on the other hand i would avoid...take aspirin w/ vitamin K if you want

Answer Question


Get FREE instant access to our
Paleo For Beginners Guide & 15 FREE Recipes!