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Are turnips TRUE paleo??

Answered on August 17, 2016
Created December 08, 2011 at 7:35 PM

Hi, i'm a 23 y/o male on my fourth week of paleo, i want to go true paleo (or as close as i can be, progress not perfection) but some foods are a little confusing. For starters, there is a lot of controversy in the paleo community, some say a little dairy is fine, others refute it altogether. Some say potatoes are good, others say nix the altogether. I'm trying to go true paleo as best i can, no dairy, no potatoes, no honey, but there are some foods that i just can't get a straight answer on, a few of them i would like some advice on for pure paleo-

-turnips -parsnips -spaghetti squash -almonds -coffee -tomatoes

If anyone who is going harcore paleo can give me any honest, straight forward advice on these foods, that would be GREATLY appreciated!

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on December 09, 2011
at 04:32 PM

+1 for sarcasm, particularly as it reflects what may be a majority opinion on PH--we each have our little food treasures.

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on December 09, 2011
at 02:31 PM

Since it was so rare, he'd probably have a single huge insulin overload which would store most of the carbs from the honey immediately and be done with it. There would be no constant stream of insulin, no high levels of blood sugar 24x7x365, so no issues with the occasional, super rare (maybe once a year?) binge of honey.

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on December 09, 2011
at 12:20 PM

@Christopher: a lot of people suggest removing fruit (due to fructose and its effect on the liver) and nuts (due to high lectin content which can irritate the gut) if you want to lose fat. Dairy is insulinogenic, so also good to remove if you want to lose fat. If you have any allergies or autoimmune disorder (which you may given the acne) then doing the autoimmune protocol (no dairy, nuts, nightshades, eggs as well as no grains or legumes) sounds like a good start. Furthermore, a lot of people on here seem to have had good luck losing fat by going low carb.

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on December 09, 2011
at 12:16 PM

@Christopher: a lot of people suggest removing fruit (due to fructose and its effect on the liver) and nuts (due to high lectin content which can irritate the gut) if you want to lose weight. Dairy is insulinogenic, so also good to remove if you want to lose weight. If you have any allergies or autoimmune disorder (which you may given the acne) then doing the autoimmune protocol (no dairy, nuts, nightshades, eggs as well as no grains or legumes) sounds like a good start. Furthermore, a lot of people on here seem to have had good luck losing weight by going low carb.

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on December 09, 2011
at 01:54 AM

Sorry, i was out the door when i posted this, and forgot to include that i'm trying to lose body fat and clear up really bad acne on my chest, back and shoulders, and i know really starchy things such as potatoes and yams are to be avoided (from what i can gather) when trying to clear up your skin and lose fat (not lose weight though, trying to put on some muscle too!)

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on December 08, 2011
at 08:11 PM

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on December 08, 2011
at 08:35 PM

You should read this: http://chriskresser.com/beyond-paleo-moving-from-a-paleo-diet-to-a-paleo-template

don't eat toxic foods. eat animals and plants. and don't worry about it. you're tinkering at the edges.

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on December 08, 2011
at 07:46 PM

Well, "true paleo" would include occasional honey.

We're so opportunistic and curious as a species that root vegetables are obvious choices within the overall ancestral diet. I doubt they were ever the primary or preferred foods, but certainly were eaten when meat was less available.

Turnips, rutabagas, yams and others have been eaten by us for a long time although much wisdom around preparation has been lost in commercial processes. I grew up in New England and turnips were widely eaten back then in boiled dinners but I never liked them much. Rutabagas, on the other hand, I find very tasty and prefer them to white or sweet potatoes. Parsnips are still eaten by older folks--I can take them or leave them.

Nuts are a tough one because I suspect they were seasonal like fruits and honey. Coffee is just the type of thing we would've played with and I think it's fine to include so the only debate is what you may or may not add.

Squashes would've been hard for ancient people to miss so I have to believe they ate leaves, flowers, fruits and seeds. Tomatoes are not so clear--when I was growing up in the 50s many adults I knew were suspicious of them as toxic nightshades. I personally enjoy an occasional Roma tomato.

I think some rejection of potatoes is based on their origin in the Americas and the human-wrought genetic adjustments for size, disease resistance, etc.

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on December 08, 2011
at 07:48 PM

have you seen videos of tribes men risking life to get to honey in trees and cliffs? trust me if paleo man stumbled onto honey he ate it all up.

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on December 09, 2011
at 02:31 PM

Since it was so rare, he'd probably have a single huge insulin overload which would store most of the carbs from the honey immediately and be done with it. There would be no constant stream of insulin, no high levels of blood sugar 24x7x365, so no issues with the occasional, super rare (maybe once a year?) binge of honey.

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on December 08, 2011
at 07:46 PM

http://whole9life.com/ is generally a great resource for those of us wanting a 30-day "clean" paleo trial.

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on December 09, 2011
at 02:48 PM

True paleo means hunting and gathering your own food in the wild with spears, butchering with stone hand axes, and so forth.

Quit worrying about what's "true paleo" and eat and live in a way that makes you healthy.

We do know that grains and legumes are dangerous (some worst than others such as wheat or soy, some less.) We do know some people have problems with dairy, others with eggs, others with nightshades - including white potatoes.

We do know that sweet potatoes and yams aren't nightshades, so they're fine as paleo food starches go.

We do know that some people tolerate white rice, even though it is a grain (I wouldn't though I've no issues with it, because I don't want the insulin spike, and fear the rice RNA that makes it to our bloodstream), and we know others tolerate potatoes (obviously without skins as that's where the toxins are.)

We know that frying certain carbs such as potatoes creates acrylamides which are carcinogenic, hence french-fries are not a great idea. But if you're ok with eating them, knock yourself out.

So do your 30 day elimination protocol and find out what works for you and stick with it. This is not a historical re-enactment. It's an attempt to relearn a proper diet for humans and move away from the worst fad diet in human history: The Standard American Diet.

< sarcasm > Far as I'm concerned coffee is paleo, despite the effects it has on cortisol and the xenoestrogens it may have, and I'll stab anyone with a stone axe that tries to take it away from me. Ditto for cocoa/dark chocolate and bacon, single malt scotches and tequilla :) < /sarcasm >

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on December 09, 2011
at 04:32 PM

+1 for sarcasm, particularly as it reflects what may be a majority opinion on PH--we each have our little food treasures.

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7841848bd0c27c64353c583fb7971242

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on December 09, 2011
at 01:45 AM

I'm wondering why you want to go "true paleo", and why you're not happy with what you've been eating as paleo the last four weeks.

If you are curious about how well you personally tolerate any food, just take it out for a couple weeks and then add it back in and see how you do. It's especially a good idea to test out foods that many people find problematic, such as dairy, nuts, nightshades, and eggs.

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on December 09, 2011
at 12:20 PM

@Christopher: a lot of people suggest removing fruit (due to fructose and its effect on the liver) and nuts (due to high lectin content which can irritate the gut) if you want to lose fat. Dairy is insulinogenic, so also good to remove if you want to lose fat. If you have any allergies or autoimmune disorder (which you may given the acne) then doing the autoimmune protocol (no dairy, nuts, nightshades, eggs as well as no grains or legumes) sounds like a good start. Furthermore, a lot of people on here seem to have had good luck losing fat by going low carb.

7841848bd0c27c64353c583fb7971242

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on December 09, 2011
at 12:16 PM

@Christopher: a lot of people suggest removing fruit (due to fructose and its effect on the liver) and nuts (due to high lectin content which can irritate the gut) if you want to lose weight. Dairy is insulinogenic, so also good to remove if you want to lose weight. If you have any allergies or autoimmune disorder (which you may given the acne) then doing the autoimmune protocol (no dairy, nuts, nightshades, eggs as well as no grains or legumes) sounds like a good start. Furthermore, a lot of people on here seem to have had good luck losing weight by going low carb.

8bbf83495a58071b0ee0ec4621d9a044

on December 09, 2011
at 01:54 AM

Sorry, i was out the door when i posted this, and forgot to include that i'm trying to lose body fat and clear up really bad acne on my chest, back and shoulders, and i know really starchy things such as potatoes and yams are to be avoided (from what i can gather) when trying to clear up your skin and lose fat (not lose weight though, trying to put on some muscle too!)

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on August 17, 2016
at 03:58 PM

Turnips are even allowed on the super strict autoimmune Paleo protocol. 

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