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Help, my sister is about to chuck out her coconut oil!

Answered on September 12, 2014
Created September 02, 2012 at 5:12 PM

I got my sister into coconut oil earlier this year (I'm gradually paleoizing her). She just sent me this article stating that coconut oil is dangerous and is asking for my feedback. Can someone help critique this article?

http://www.meschinohealth.com/ArticleDirectory/Coconut_Oil_Over-rated_Potentially_Dangerous_Source_Of_Fat

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on September 03, 2012
at 05:39 PM

Obligate herbivores, indeed. Don't mix bloody marys and typing...

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on September 03, 2012
at 06:55 AM

I thought we were using sources from over 10,000 years ago :)

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on September 03, 2012
at 03:08 AM

Must be a Monty Python obligate carnivore rabbit.

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on September 02, 2012
at 08:26 PM

Then get her to go in on a cow-pool and then send her this in an email -- http://www.telegraph.co.uk/health/healthnews/9138230/Red-meat-is-blamed-for-one-in-10-early-deaths.html

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on September 02, 2012
at 06:56 PM

Made me smile ;-)

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on September 02, 2012
at 06:37 PM

Rabbits are not obligate carnivores; I think you meant that they are herbivores and never should have been fed meat, eggs & milk!

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on September 02, 2012
at 05:28 PM

One of the biggest red flags is that his only sources are from 1987 and 2001. Research is considered current if it was published in the last 5 years. Using older studies is fine if there are current studies to support it. Also, read through the comments below the article. There is some interesting information there.

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3ce6a0d24be025e2f2af534545bdd1d7

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on September 02, 2012
at 06:06 PM

Tell her it is dangerous, and that you will dispose of it for her!

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on September 02, 2012
at 06:56 PM

Made me smile ;-)

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on September 02, 2012
at 08:26 PM

Then get her to go in on a cow-pool and then send her this in an email -- http://www.telegraph.co.uk/health/healthnews/9138230/Red-meat-is-blamed-for-one-in-10-early-deaths.html

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on September 02, 2012
at 06:06 PM

All indirect nonsense. Studies that show a zero/low saturated fat diet have positive health outcomes does not necessarily mean that a saturated-fat rich diet (from coconut oil) will produce negative health outcomes.

"Dean Ornish has provided evidence to show that a virtually zero content saturated fat diet, along with moderate exercise and meditation, can reverse atherosclerosis, as demonstrated by angiography studies."

Problems abound with this passage.

  1. Which is it? The diet, exercise, or mediation that truly produces the positive effect on atherosclerosis? Holy confounders, Batman! It's just as bad as Colin Campbell's miracle vegan diet that also excludes processed flour sugar and oils???
  2. How natural is a zero satruated fat diet? Seriously, what do you eat to get zero saturated fat?

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on September 02, 2012
at 05:45 PM

Tell your sister to go back and read all the comments that were posted on the website in response to this article. Dozens of people saying the information on coconut oil is dead wrong. I didn't see a single response agreeing with the article. I think the commenters may have done your work for you.

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on September 02, 2012
at 05:40 PM

In addition, I think it's been fairly established that what matters most in cholesterol is the makeup, not the gross numbers. So, an increase in total cholesterol and LDL is only meaningful if it's a proportional increase in small, dense LDL. Saturated fat intake has been shown to increase HDL as well as large, fluffy LDL, which has been shown to be benign. Saturated fat could also be called "stable" fat, in that it doesn't oxidize in the body the way polyunsaturated fat does. Polyunsaturated fat, prevalent in the vegetable oils this guy probably touts, has been shown to increase small, dense LDL as well as contribute to oxidation and inflammation (maybe the same thing?), which have been shown in combination to be the real promoters of heart disease.

That's my understanding, at least, and I'm sticking with it until I see hardcore scientific data otherwise. Heck, it just makes more sense to me.

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on September 02, 2012
at 06:33 PM

"There is strong indirect evidence that regular use of coconut oil will raise blood cholesterol and increase risk of thrombogenic conditions (e.g. deep vein thrombosis, myocardial infarction, ischemic stroke, transient ischemic attacks, etc). The evidence is based upon documentation showing that lauric acid (C12) is a very strong promoter of raising serum LDL-cholesterol levels (and total cholesterol)"

LDL ain't everything, HDL matters too. Lauric acid has been shown to produce the biggest improvement in total:HDL cholesterol ratio of all the macronutrients. Total:HDL cholesterol ratio was shown in a major meta analysis to be the best predictor of heart disease death using blood lipids.

"Palmitic acid and stearic acid are the strongest promoters of thrombogenesis among the fatty acids in the human diet (See reference 1 below). Nearly 12% of all the fatty acids in coconut oil are comprised of these two saturated fats"

This fact is also true of olive oil. I guess that makes sense, olive oil has been shown to be really bad for your heart right? Right?

He goes on to point out we have no requirement to eat saturated fats. So what? We don't have to eat any monounsaturated fat either. Or carbohydrates. Heck, we don't have to eat any fruit in our life. Does that mean it's good not to?

I found a study that formed 2 groups, put 100 men in both groups, gave each group 28% of their calories from either equal mixtures of corn and sunflower oil or coconut and peanut oil and published a study at five years (1) and ten years (2). At both intervals no major difference in cholesterol levels were observed between the two groups and, more importantly, no major difference in heart attacks and mortality was observed either. How bout them apples, coconut oil haterz?

Seriously, the idea that coconut oil is bad for your heart is not supported by anything but scant evidence.

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on September 04, 2012
at 05:33 PM

It is quite contradictory that it is often (on these boards) that the very people who extol the many virtues of coconut oil are the very same that follow diets of rib eyes, butter, and coconut oil.

How inaccurate, considering coconuts are found in the tropics, where fruit is readily available year round and fish are the staple protein.

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on September 03, 2012
at 02:56 AM

Tell her to read "Eat Fat Lose Fat" by Dr. Mary Enig, the researcher who discovered the dangers of Trans Fats and is considered an international expert on the biochemistry of food and fat.

http://www.eatfatlosefat.com/ (Plus she'll get plenty of delicious coconut oil recipes throughout.)

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on September 02, 2012
at 06:21 PM

Of the two publications cited, only one is actually a research article. A research article about the effects of dietary composition on athrogenesis in RATS.

I don't like to generalize from rodents' metabolic systems to my own. Let us not forget that one of the earliest studies used as support for the lipid hypothesis focused on athrogenesis in rabbits that were fed a high cholesterol diet of eggs, milk, and meat - things that are far removed from the diet of an obligate carnivore such as a rabbit. Rats are omnivores, but are not likely to consume levels of saturated fats used in the study given the type of animal and insect life they would eat without human intervention.

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on September 02, 2012
at 06:37 PM

Rabbits are not obligate carnivores; I think you meant that they are herbivores and never should have been fed meat, eggs & milk!

26e2364f7966432bbf8acfe930583674

(460)

on September 03, 2012
at 05:39 PM

Obligate herbivores, indeed. Don't mix bloody marys and typing...

782d92f4127823bdfb2ddfcbcf961d0e

(5231)

on September 03, 2012
at 03:08 AM

Must be a Monty Python obligate carnivore rabbit.

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