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Coconut Oil vs Animal Fat

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Created March 04, 2011 at 11:31 PM

Which is the optimum fat? Coconut has barely anything going for it in terms of vitamins and minerals but it's loaded with saturated fat, and has various antifungal and antiviral properties. Butter is shunned by many because it's dairy, but it has a good amount of fat soluble vitamins and is a great source of butyric acid, it is less saturated than coconut oil and has monounsaturated fats, making it more balanced than coconut oil, same applies to tallow, which I think has an even higher content of monounsaturated fat. If you were to choose between animal fats or tropical fats, which would you ideally choose for better health and/or taste preference?

7eba3d743671649c1e06cacce0ba4e77

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on April 17, 2012
at 05:54 AM

You can get about 3-4 tablespoons of coconut oil from one coconut.

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on March 03, 2012
at 11:17 PM

Quilt, could you provide some info/sources about MCT's having a beneficial effect on zonulin? That's quite interesting, but I haven't been able to find a study concluding that.

84666a86108dee8d11cbbc85b6382083

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on May 11, 2011
at 04:18 PM

That's 250 ml ?

4781cf8ae1bfcb558dfb056af17bea94

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on May 10, 2011
at 05:52 PM

A regular can of coconut milk has 77 grams of fat PER CAN. The per serving numbers may be lower.

84666a86108dee8d11cbbc85b6382083

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on May 10, 2011
at 09:14 AM

I think coconut milk goes up to 25g (per 100 ml) and that's max. The one I buy has 18g.

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on March 21, 2011
at 07:41 PM

Pork fat is higher in Omega-6. So if you are looking for an optimal fat, I think you would be better off using tallow.

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on March 05, 2011
at 07:07 PM

Ah, you would be right then. Stabby corrects an error today. I still think we should be getting a good amount of all of the fats. Like here oleic acid is anti-carcinogenic and beef fat has a ton of it with relatively little oleic acid compared with olive oil http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/15642702 And of course the CLA in grassfed beef

4781cf8ae1bfcb558dfb056af17bea94

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on March 05, 2011
at 06:32 PM

Not accurate Stabby. It's a common misonception that animal sources of polyunsaturated fat are primarily arachidonic acid, EPA, and DHA. In fact, cow fat is mostly linoleic acid and alpha linolenic acid and contains comparatively little ARA, EPA, and DHA.

Be1dbd31e4a3fccd4394494aa5db256d

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on March 05, 2011
at 04:04 PM

There is no linoleic acid in cow fat, it is arachidonic acic.

4781cf8ae1bfcb558dfb056af17bea94

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on March 05, 2011
at 02:27 PM

Coconut oil is quite dense with fat -- 77 grams in one can, I believe.

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on March 05, 2011
at 05:12 AM

Yea but you can't use coconut flesh or milk in place of butter, you'd have to consume tons of milk to get anywhere near what coconut oil can do.

4781cf8ae1bfcb558dfb056af17bea94

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on March 05, 2011
at 02:33 AM

As far as I know, coconut fat has less linoleic acid than cow fat, including both beef and dairy fat. That said, both coconut fat and cow fat are pretty low in linoleic acid (e.g., like 3% vs. 2%).

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on March 05, 2011
at 02:06 AM

Thanks Dr. K, I'll try to find it.

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on March 05, 2011
at 01:31 AM

Stabby you're back :).

Cab7e4ef73c5d7d7a77e1c3d7f5773a1

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on March 05, 2011
at 01:30 AM

Stabby you're back :). Beef tallow vs. butter though, which is better?

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on March 05, 2011
at 01:06 AM

Cage match!!!!!

Ed71ab1c75c6a9bd217a599db0a3e117

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on March 05, 2011
at 01:02 AM

Stephen G is an expert on this. He had a great post about 6 months ago on suet and tallow. I would look in his archives for it.

Ed71ab1c75c6a9bd217a599db0a3e117

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on March 05, 2011
at 01:01 AM

To be honest I have never looked at brands. I always used fresh pressed virgin coconut oils. I would never advocate hydrogenated types or processed types because they do effect the MCT actions on zonulin.

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on March 05, 2011
at 12:31 AM

Dr K Would MCT oil from Now Foods be more effective for your use to limit zonulin's activity in the intestines? http://www.swansonvitamins.com/NWF331/ItemDetail?n=0

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Be1dbd31e4a3fccd4394494aa5db256d

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on March 04, 2011
at 11:49 PM

I wouldn't get all of my fat from coconut because it has some linoleic acid which is undesirable from a tissue HUFA composition standpoint whereas arachidonic acid is better so long as we have enough DHA. Linoleic acid causes a DHA deficiency. Also remember that there are benefits to different kinds of fats. Take beef tallow, the best animal fat. Much of it is oleic acid which improves insulin sensitivity and prevents depression. Beef tallow also has a lot of CLA, not to mention choline. Butter has butyrate which improves insulin sensitivity too.

Be1dbd31e4a3fccd4394494aa5db256d

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on March 05, 2011
at 04:04 PM

There is no linoleic acid in cow fat, it is arachidonic acic.

Cab7e4ef73c5d7d7a77e1c3d7f5773a1

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on March 05, 2011
at 01:31 AM

Stabby you're back :).

4781cf8ae1bfcb558dfb056af17bea94

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on March 05, 2011
at 02:33 AM

As far as I know, coconut fat has less linoleic acid than cow fat, including both beef and dairy fat. That said, both coconut fat and cow fat are pretty low in linoleic acid (e.g., like 3% vs. 2%).

Cab7e4ef73c5d7d7a77e1c3d7f5773a1

(7304)

on March 05, 2011
at 01:30 AM

Stabby you're back :). Beef tallow vs. butter though, which is better?

4781cf8ae1bfcb558dfb056af17bea94

(4359)

on March 05, 2011
at 06:32 PM

Not accurate Stabby. It's a common misonception that animal sources of polyunsaturated fat are primarily arachidonic acid, EPA, and DHA. In fact, cow fat is mostly linoleic acid and alpha linolenic acid and contains comparatively little ARA, EPA, and DHA.

Be1dbd31e4a3fccd4394494aa5db256d

(17969)

on March 05, 2011
at 07:07 PM

Ah, you would be right then. Stabby corrects an error today. I still think we should be getting a good amount of all of the fats. Like here oleic acid is anti-carcinogenic and beef fat has a ton of it with relatively little oleic acid compared with olive oil http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/15642702 And of course the CLA in grassfed beef

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Ed71ab1c75c6a9bd217a599db0a3e117

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on March 04, 2011
at 11:54 PM

If I have a patient with leaky gut I always go to coconut oils because of the MCT effect on zonulin. If not I tell them pastured butter and fermented fibers like sauerkraut and dill pickles and kimchee will do. I also like Ghee a bit better than butter. And beef tallow of grass fed cows is even better bit brutal to find now.

Ed71ab1c75c6a9bd217a599db0a3e117

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on March 05, 2011
at 01:01 AM

To be honest I have never looked at brands. I always used fresh pressed virgin coconut oils. I would never advocate hydrogenated types or processed types because they do effect the MCT actions on zonulin.

06d21b99c58283ce575e36c4ecd4a458

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on March 05, 2011
at 12:31 AM

Dr K Would MCT oil from Now Foods be more effective for your use to limit zonulin's activity in the intestines? http://www.swansonvitamins.com/NWF331/ItemDetail?n=0

A2c38be4c54c91a15071f82f14cac0b3

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on March 03, 2012
at 11:17 PM

Quilt, could you provide some info/sources about MCT's having a beneficial effect on zonulin? That's quite interesting, but I haven't been able to find a study concluding that.

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on March 03, 2012
at 09:18 PM

I don't know why you're trying to get it down to ONE optimum fat. I wouldn't narrow your diet so much. Eat lots of coconut oil, pastured lard, pastured tallow, pastured butter, ghee made from pastured butter, olive oil, et. They all have something to contribute. Eating and health are not about following a checklist of nutrients. Look at what traditional diets include and let that be your guide.

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on March 05, 2011
at 02:00 PM

i actually try to switch it up pretty frequently to get the best balance. my CSA provides me with really affordable pastured pork lard, nutiva coconut oil, my own bacon fat, kerrygold butter, pure indian foods ghee (or my own ghee). i prefer cooking with the lard- its beautiful and great for cooking, but not always available. i find myself using the coconut oil the most, i think because it is so slippery and great for sauteeing.

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on March 05, 2011
at 12:30 AM

I think I would ideally choose both or all of the above! I think that they are all beneficial, and mixing it up is good in so many ways. I am really enjoying cooking with my homemade ghee lately - everyone in my house loves the flavor that it adds!

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0adda19045a3641edac0008364b91110

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on March 05, 2011
at 12:07 AM

...brings me to another question. Is beef suet essentially the same as tallow, nutritionally that is. It is my understanding that tallow is rendered from suet, so there shouldn't be much difference?? If there is a difference, possible change in nutrient contents when rendering, which one is more desirable?

0adda19045a3641edac0008364b91110

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on March 05, 2011
at 02:06 AM

Thanks Dr. K, I'll try to find it.

Ed71ab1c75c6a9bd217a599db0a3e117

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on March 05, 2011
at 01:02 AM

Stephen G is an expert on this. He had a great post about 6 months ago on suet and tallow. I would look in his archives for it.

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06d21b99c58283ce575e36c4ecd4a458

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on March 04, 2011
at 11:42 PM

For taste of coconut oil, there are various suppliers each with a slightly different taste..from almost bland to strong coconut taste and smell. I use Nutiva from Amazon in 54oz container. Some like Tropical Traditions.

I mix my Kerrygold butter with my coconut oil for frying anything...eggs, steaks, chicken. The taste of both together imparts a nice flavor to whatever I am cooking.

I eat tablespoons of coconut oil right out of the jar when I need a snack.

When I buy my beef I always look for the fattiest I can get and it is usually the cheapest...whether it comes as a roast or a steak...usually under $2 a pound. I love the fat.

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on March 05, 2011
at 05:19 PM

I find I don't really like coconut oil except when I am making curry. My favourite fat is rendered pork fat - from free range organic pigs. How is the fat profile in this and how does it compare to beef fat?

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on March 21, 2011
at 07:41 PM

Pork fat is higher in Omega-6. So if you are looking for an optimal fat, I think you would be better off using tallow.

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4781cf8ae1bfcb558dfb056af17bea94

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on March 05, 2011
at 02:27 AM

Coconut oil doesn't have much by way of minerals but coconut flesh (and, thus, coconut milk) does.

4781cf8ae1bfcb558dfb056af17bea94

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on March 05, 2011
at 02:27 PM

Coconut oil is quite dense with fat -- 77 grams in one can, I believe.

77877f762c40637911396daa19b53094

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on March 05, 2011
at 05:12 AM

Yea but you can't use coconut flesh or milk in place of butter, you'd have to consume tons of milk to get anywhere near what coconut oil can do.

4781cf8ae1bfcb558dfb056af17bea94

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on May 10, 2011
at 05:52 PM

A regular can of coconut milk has 77 grams of fat PER CAN. The per serving numbers may be lower.

84666a86108dee8d11cbbc85b6382083

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on May 10, 2011
at 09:14 AM

I think coconut milk goes up to 25g (per 100 ml) and that's max. The one I buy has 18g.

84666a86108dee8d11cbbc85b6382083

(2399)

on May 11, 2011
at 04:18 PM

That's 250 ml ?

7eba3d743671649c1e06cacce0ba4e77

(1423)

on April 17, 2012
at 05:54 AM

You can get about 3-4 tablespoons of coconut oil from one coconut.

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