1

votes

What to feed a diabetic that I can "HIDE" coconut oil in? THANK YOU SO MUCH!

Answered on September 12, 2014
Created January 21, 2012 at 7:02 PM

WE are guessing (until she her appt comes around) that my MIL may have Alzheimer's/Dementia. She is diabetic too. She was the house cook and now my FIL grocery shops. Which from what i gather is frozen meals and soup. After her appt Monday, I am considering going over there and making several days worth of meals. We don't believe she has been monitoring her diabetes which I know can have disastrous side effects in and of itself. My plan is to incorporate fresh foods with virgin non hydrogenated coconut oil. I know I can add it to her veggies but and PLEASE NOTE SHE WILL KNOW WE ARE GIVING HER COCONUT OIL but I don't want her to eat it by the spoon full at first. I want it to be here and there in her foods so we can get her used to it.

I don't want to give her too much at first so she doesn't get diarrhea but I am thinking of mixing it in her hamburger meat, cooking any foods in it, using with butter on veggies (i am thinking of making a mix of pasture butter and coconut oil whipped) Maybe mixing it with Barney Butter as a treat. (we know she sneaks crackers, ice cream etc) So I need to be realistic that she will want something. I will give her terra chips and maybe some kind of dip with the oil whipped up in it.

HELP...I really need a long list of stuff I can feel a diabetic. I think Paleo should work well but know she probably wont eat eggs every am because she is on cholesterol meds and not into PALEO. I think it is best that I feed her paleo and get her cognitive skills up before trying to explain to her.

** at this point i am not going to rule out dairy.

What kind of smoothie could be good for a diabetic? coconut milk/cream and blueberries/raspberries?

I know this isn't truly Paleo but her results could be tremendous and maybe I can help her become PALEO! !

**** Why I want to put coconut oil in the food: There is Alzheimers, epilepsy and other studies being done on coconut oil and the brain. So far it appears that the brain might do well with coconut oil (MCT) as fuel for the brain. in a few cases i have seen (not in person) it seems to have stopped the progression and in some cases improved it greatly. I am not a scientist please excuse the poor explanation. ???*

Theresa

737471a5bc1c8b81d968c3f3fcd13b71

(389)

on March 11, 2012
at 12:56 AM

Thanks for the explanation, Chelsea. Glad I know that now.

Ab19df3ededa28f7bf7daeba8435b205

(1471)

on March 09, 2012
at 02:09 AM

i made for myself dark chocolate barney butter "reeses cups" 4 squares of lindt 70% melted with 1/2 tsp or more of coconut oil and warmed till able to mix all together. then place in muffin liner and plop a teaspooon of barney butter (almond butter) in the middle and gently shake/move to get the barney butter to settle. add more chocolate on top to cover then refrigerate till solid....then inhale or savor....which ever :)

Ab19df3ededa28f7bf7daeba8435b205

(1471)

on March 09, 2012
at 02:06 AM

I bought bronners for both of us. it has a pleasant coconut taste and i can eat it off the spoon easier than others...

Ab19df3ededa28f7bf7daeba8435b205

(1471)

on March 09, 2012
at 02:06 AM

I bought MCT oil pharmaceutical grade and it is on its way. but COCONUT oil is supposed to have more than just the two acids in it that standard MCT oil has.

Ab19df3ededa28f7bf7daeba8435b205

(1471)

on March 09, 2012
at 02:04 AM

this sounds plausable. thanks!

Ab19df3ededa28f7bf7daeba8435b205

(1471)

on March 09, 2012
at 02:02 AM

Alex, we are searhcing for a well informed DR now. her current DR got pissy when my FIL told him we had a psych test done on her. the dr was taking too long. not getting back to them and NOT aT all proactive. one of the newere protocols suggests using two meds but he only has her on the one. Granted we need to be sure she can tolerate the first one but any mention of usign the second has been dashed...

Ab19df3ededa28f7bf7daeba8435b205

(1471)

on March 09, 2012
at 02:00 AM

Phoenix, we are not hiding it from her. she is aware and eats it of the spoon but she needs 4-5 tablespoons of it. alex. we are waiting on the neuro consult so we can get a PET scan. She has had blook work to determine if other issues could be causing the dementia like syptoms due to lack of or too much of something.

Ab19df3ededa28f7bf7daeba8435b205

(1471)

on March 09, 2012
at 01:58 AM

she is not trying to stay ketogenic per say as much as to feed the brain.

2a00b9a42e4cb6e489a0e69d20714576

(3043)

on March 08, 2012
at 11:00 PM

That's because its heavily refined and not as beneficial as coconut oils which are dme (direct micro expelling) or raw.

91219405abedbfd400ce00dea242a00f

(1044)

on March 08, 2012
at 09:58 PM

Furthermore, depression is also a dementia-mimic in an elderly person and can present in much the same way. The most important course of action at this stage is to make sure that she goes to a well-informed physician who will do a full work-up, not one that will essentially write it off as Alzheimer's just because it is the most common. Good luck and I wish her all the best.

91219405abedbfd400ce00dea242a00f

(1044)

on March 08, 2012
at 09:57 PM

Also I wouldn't "guess" that she has Alzheimer's although it is the most common cause of dementia. Based on her history of diabetes, it is possible that she is suffering from Vascular Dementia where it becomes important to control the diabetes and hypertension to reduce further vascular damage and slow progression of the disease. In such a case, I would postulate that a paleo diet would be greatly beneficial. Depending on her age, it may also be likely that she has a reversible condition due to an electrolyte imbalance, or medical condition such as hypothyroidism.

662a4ea915eb7c758bdd797d77ead7b6

(656)

on March 08, 2012
at 09:06 PM

Do you have recipes?

6120c989fd5b69f42a0834b69b87955b

(24553)

on March 08, 2012
at 09:04 PM

Coconut oil melted with cocoa powder and stevia makes a wicked Magic Shell substitute.

9b47142b8ed1074a94b5654410740530

(330)

on March 08, 2012
at 07:24 PM

I understand that you want to help. But to be honest with you, if my daughter-in-law came to my home and told me what I should eat, I would be really pissed. Why not ask her? If you make it her choice instead of yours, she's probably more-likely to use coconut oil on her own.

Ab19df3ededa28f7bf7daeba8435b205

(1471)

on January 23, 2012
at 01:33 AM

There is alzheimers, epilepsy and other studies being done on coconut oil and the brain. So far it appears that the brain might do well with coconut oil (MCT) as fuel for the brain. in a few cases i have seen (not in person) it seems to have stopped the progression and in some cases improved it greatly. I am not a scientist please excuse the poor explanation.

Ab19df3ededa28f7bf7daeba8435b205

(1471)

on January 23, 2012
at 01:25 AM

Much like the people in Lorenzo's oil, this oil contains something the brain neesd. There is alzheimers, epilepsy and other work being done on coconut oil and the brain. So far it appears that the brain might do well in ketosis for people with alzheimers. in a few cases i have seen (not in person) it seems to have stoped the progression and in some cases improved it greatly.

88a669ef87f8138d6bbfbdace533a482

(425)

on January 22, 2012
at 02:55 PM

I'm convinced--I'll add coconut oil to my recipe! Got some in the pantry already. Paleo Day 12. Thanks.

32f5749fa6cf7adbeb0b0b031ba82b46

(41757)

on January 22, 2012
at 02:08 AM

That's not an answer to why. Why add coconut oil? It's not a magic elixir that can fix everything. It's a good fat (one of many).

Ed983a42344945b1ff70fd9597a23493

on January 21, 2012
at 10:23 PM

You can melt the oil and drizzle it into smoothies while the motor is running, after everything else is already blended.

Ab19df3ededa28f7bf7daeba8435b205

(1471)

on January 21, 2012
at 09:34 PM

WE are guessing (until she her appt comes around) that my MIL may have Alzheimers/Dementia Not necessarily sneak but I dont want her to taste it

32f5749fa6cf7adbeb0b0b031ba82b46

(41757)

on January 21, 2012
at 08:48 PM

Or wanting to sneak it in?

32f5749fa6cf7adbeb0b0b031ba82b46

(41757)

on January 21, 2012
at 08:47 PM

Why are you sneaking large amounts of coconut oil in her diet?

Ab19df3ededa28f7bf7daeba8435b205

(1471)

on January 21, 2012
at 08:27 PM

I think we can add in the oil adn have that little crunch along with the blueberry pieces. I will try it today...I think it will a small amount and extra thick. thx

Fa9f340eddbad9a544184c688fa4dcdd

(6433)

on January 21, 2012
at 07:58 PM

Sounds pretty tasty - but coconut milk has almost none of the medium chain triglycerides that make coconut oil so beneficial for Alzheimers.

2507b557331c8a674bc81197531e609a

(4994)

on January 21, 2012
at 07:44 PM

I use it for most cooking, especially if cooking with spices like a nice curry, or chilli, I honestly can not tatste it in these meals.

Frontpage book

Get FREE instant access to our Paleo For Beginners Guide & 15 FREE Recipes!

10 Answers

3
Fa9f340eddbad9a544184c688fa4dcdd

(6433)

on January 21, 2012
at 08:10 PM

I don't really like the flavour of virgin coconut oil in its natural state, but an interesting thing about it is that it has a very low freezing point - simply stirring it into frozen or semi-frozen foods is enough to freeze it instantly.

Once frozen the oil both loses its aggressively coconutty taste that tends to put people off and also takes on a deliciously light and crunchy texture, which is the opposite of the oil-slick effect you get when it???s used in cooking.

I like to puree frozen berries and then stir in a spoonful of coconut oil for a delicious, naturally sweet Paleo sorbet, but you could substitute a high-quality stevia sweetened ice-cream (either home-made or store bought) with the same results.

If it???s easier to get your MIL to take liquids, dilute the ice-cream with milk (coconut or dairy) or the sorbet with either water or part fruit juice to water to make a slushie drink or semi-frozen milkshake.

6120c989fd5b69f42a0834b69b87955b

(24553)

on March 08, 2012
at 09:04 PM

Coconut oil melted with cocoa powder and stevia makes a wicked Magic Shell substitute.

2
13c5a9f1678d75b93f269cdcf69f14d5

(2339)

on January 21, 2012
at 08:53 PM

Indian type dishes?

Darck chocolate truffles?

Just getting her glucose levels down will help a lot. The bernstein diabetes forum has info on both glucosse and a recipe section. Coconut oil is popular there. Bernstein can be paleo compatible.

2
Ed92809f18ca70e360768b4f2c9c9df6

(356)

on January 21, 2012
at 08:40 PM

maybe use it to make mayonnaise? you can cover up the flavor by using strong flavors in your dish

1
26b0f1261d1a0d916825bd0deeb96a21

(5798)

on January 23, 2012
at 12:39 AM

Dr. Bronner's extra-virgin, unrefined, organic coconut oil is very good mixed in with spinach and salmon filets baked together in the oven. The flavor is mild and it adds a pleasant flavor and moisture to the fish. Chicken thighs or wings that are brushed with coconut oil before baking also adds a bit of magic :)

Ab19df3ededa28f7bf7daeba8435b205

(1471)

on March 09, 2012
at 02:06 AM

I bought bronners for both of us. it has a pleasant coconut taste and i can eat it off the spoon easier than others...

1
13c5a9f1678d75b93f269cdcf69f14d5

(2339)

on January 22, 2012
at 10:51 PM

baked egg custards made with coconut milk

dark chocoalte/coconut oil truffles

662a4ea915eb7c758bdd797d77ead7b6

(656)

on March 08, 2012
at 09:06 PM

Do you have recipes?

Ab19df3ededa28f7bf7daeba8435b205

(1471)

on March 09, 2012
at 02:09 AM

i made for myself dark chocolate barney butter "reeses cups" 4 squares of lindt 70% melted with 1/2 tsp or more of coconut oil and warmed till able to mix all together. then place in muffin liner and plop a teaspooon of barney butter (almond butter) in the middle and gently shake/move to get the barney butter to settle. add more chocolate on top to cover then refrigerate till solid....then inhale or savor....which ever :)

1
737471a5bc1c8b81d968c3f3fcd13b71

on January 21, 2012
at 08:22 PM

I stopped buying Spectrum brand coconut oil because it doesn't taste very coconutty, but that may work well for your purposes. All the other brands I've tried have a much stronger flavor.

2a00b9a42e4cb6e489a0e69d20714576

(3043)

on March 08, 2012
at 11:00 PM

That's because its heavily refined and not as beneficial as coconut oils which are dme (direct micro expelling) or raw.

737471a5bc1c8b81d968c3f3fcd13b71

(389)

on March 11, 2012
at 12:56 AM

Thanks for the explanation, Chelsea. Glad I know that now.

1
88a669ef87f8138d6bbfbdace533a482

on January 21, 2012
at 07:49 PM

I make smoothies with 4-6 oz water, 3-4 oz coconut milk, whey protein powder (I know, not paleo) and about 1 cup frozen berries. It tastes good and is easy to make. I have a little Hamilton Beach personal blender that's a travel cup and easy to clean because the blade assembly doesn't come out. Just blend hot soapy water and you're done.

Ab19df3ededa28f7bf7daeba8435b205

(1471)

on January 21, 2012
at 08:27 PM

I think we can add in the oil adn have that little crunch along with the blueberry pieces. I will try it today...I think it will a small amount and extra thick. thx

Ed983a42344945b1ff70fd9597a23493

on January 21, 2012
at 10:23 PM

You can melt the oil and drizzle it into smoothies while the motor is running, after everything else is already blended.

88a669ef87f8138d6bbfbdace533a482

(425)

on January 22, 2012
at 02:55 PM

I'm convinced--I'll add coconut oil to my recipe! Got some in the pantry already. Paleo Day 12. Thanks.

Fa9f340eddbad9a544184c688fa4dcdd

(6433)

on January 21, 2012
at 07:58 PM

Sounds pretty tasty - but coconut milk has almost none of the medium chain triglycerides that make coconut oil so beneficial for Alzheimers.

0
6120c989fd5b69f42a0834b69b87955b

(24553)

on March 08, 2012
at 09:13 PM

Make her a box of coconut oil based chocolates:

Equal parts coconut oil and cocoa powder

A little sugar or stevia

A little pinch of salt

Nuts, lemon zest, or coconut flakes for texture if desired.

Small amounts of flavoring or liqueur can be added to change up the flavor.

Melt the oil and blend everything in, and pour out into candy molds or onto a large flat surface and break into smaller pieces when cooled.

For white chocolate you can do the same but sub cocoa butter for the cocoa powder.

If she is going to sneak treats, might as well make them her "medicine".

Good luck!

Ab19df3ededa28f7bf7daeba8435b205

(1471)

on March 09, 2012
at 02:04 AM

this sounds plausable. thanks!

0
D31a2a2d43191b15ca4a1c7ec7d03038

on March 08, 2012
at 07:13 PM

Coconut oil might not be the best solution:

I have read anecdotal reports of coconut oil triggering a hypoglycemic episode, in some people. I don't have scientific references to give you. I wish I did.

Coconut oil is also very, very high in salicylic acid, which someone might be sensitive to. There are many people who cannot use soap made from coconut oil, or put coconut oil on their skin. And, who cannot eat any coconut at all.

Please read Dr. Richard Bernstein's book, The Diabetes Solution. He is the diabetes expert.

It is quite possible to stay ketogenic without coconut oil.

I wish you all the best with your mother-in-law. That is a hard challenge. :)

Ab19df3ededa28f7bf7daeba8435b205

(1471)

on March 09, 2012
at 01:58 AM

she is not trying to stay ketogenic per say as much as to feed the brain.

0
1da74185531d6d4c7182fb9ee417f97f

on January 23, 2012
at 03:00 AM

It's not ideal could you just use refined, maybe expeller pressed coconut oil or medium chain tryglycerides oil instead? Both of those don't have a strong taste. ( the latter has no taste.)

Ab19df3ededa28f7bf7daeba8435b205

(1471)

on March 09, 2012
at 02:06 AM

I bought MCT oil pharmaceutical grade and it is on its way. but COCONUT oil is supposed to have more than just the two acids in it that standard MCT oil has.

Answer Question


Get FREE instant access to our
Paleo For Beginners Guide & 15 FREE Recipes!