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What are the downsides of your transformation?

Answered on August 19, 2014
Created December 16, 2011 at 5:25 AM

So I've been paleo going on 4 months now.

I've lost 10 kg (23ish lbs) and feel pretty great most of the time.

But I've noticed a few downsides:

-My favorite clothes no longer fit -I'm developing Chicken Legs -I do miss some of my favorite terrible foods

What are the downsides to your transformation?

8b7835a7c00bd5ae5d0c4d3d6fbdb17a

(100)

on November 28, 2012
at 06:57 AM

I say the same thing, but then I eat a steak and.......... :)

218f4d92627e4289cc81178fce5b4d00

on February 15, 2012
at 11:17 AM

I have excommunicated one friend who just wouldn't quit bugging me about it and crapping on about balance and what about this, what about that. Toxic friends get dtiched with the toxic food.

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on December 22, 2011
at 01:40 PM

I went to a chiropractor who adjusted the bones in my skull ... after a few weeks the noise stopped. If comes back ever once in a while but I go get an adjustment and it is better. I also stopped grinding my teeth this way... give it a try.

C3295cf01cbde01fc7e1aeff2f15345f

(38)

on December 19, 2011
at 08:41 AM

@marie Yes, the Mg helps to sleep, but I think that is because it is relaxing and I don't notice a difference with the ringing. @chickenosaurus Could be coincidence, eyes/ears/nose doctor said so too - that the bones change as we age and tinnitus can come and go. @bill1102 - I don't think it's preposterous since I know two other people (from other forums) that have had their tinnitus get worse with paleo. @evzone By doing a rotation elimination of some foods I found that eggs and alchohol and too much coffee make it worse, but nothing yet to make it better...yet.

94a4a87e3d2e1e9160b6ed77678b4bea

(1311)

on December 19, 2011
at 01:14 AM

Wanna swap? Can't rid of my trunk junk no matter how much everything else goes down.

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(1240)

on December 18, 2011
at 11:50 PM

I'm very envious of the women who saw an increase on top. My hips didn't grow, but my waist dramatically shrunk. I'm hoping and praying that there's something I can eat or do to undo the loss above :/

95eda9fa0cec952b482e869c34a566b6

on December 18, 2011
at 01:52 AM

Chamois Butt'r is also great stuff.

95eda9fa0cec952b482e869c34a566b6

on December 18, 2011
at 01:47 AM

You'll probably need a special permit for that.

1f8384be58052b6b96f476e475abdc74

(2231)

on December 18, 2011
at 01:33 AM

if i were stressing as much as you about m body and weight i would pack on fat too, esp coupled with exercise. whatever it is that is going to make you stop obsessing is wat you need to do...possibly after a few weeks off, good sleep and a sledgehammer to your scale

518bce04b12cd77741237e1f61075194

(11577)

on December 18, 2011
at 01:23 AM

+1 for the Bodyglide mention. Great for the thighs/but/dareIsayitnipples.

518bce04b12cd77741237e1f61075194

(11577)

on December 18, 2011
at 01:21 AM

That's funny, my curves at/below the waist were pretty proportional to the curves above the waist. Expanded on either side as my waist contracted. Quite a fun side effect.

518bce04b12cd77741237e1f61075194

(11577)

on December 18, 2011
at 01:19 AM

@Evzone "standard american diet". Also, I am easily characterized as a zealot for a lot of other things (opinions about bacteria, viruses, vaccines, breast feeding, age of conception, pharmaceuticals, agriculture policy, culinary choices), it is much more difficult to be the food zealot however. You know how much you hate that raw vegan that won't shut up? I picture that person, and zip it if it seems inappropriate. Food is very personal!

59ee717de524f921efb7f2984157339f

(871)

on December 17, 2011
at 10:22 PM

OK so no oil, no coconut. Why does everyone tell me to eat fats and lower carbs to loose weight? I really don't get this

Cccb899526fb5908f64176e0a74ed2d9

(2801)

on December 17, 2011
at 09:08 PM

Don't cook with oil. Easy way to lower under-the-radar intake.

Cf4576cbcc44fc7f2294135609bce9e5

(3125)

on December 17, 2011
at 08:43 PM

im new what does SAD mean in referance to food?

Cf4576cbcc44fc7f2294135609bce9e5

(3125)

on December 17, 2011
at 07:53 PM

my legs started shrinking also then as i stopped loosing weight my muscles starting growing eveywhere. it seem that now that i could make it out of bed that i could do strenuous work around my house and property. i dare say next year im going to look better than my early twenties.

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(8239)

on December 17, 2011
at 05:44 PM

At the end of the day, I would rather have baggy jeans to wear, cinched up with a belt, as evidence of physique transformation, than have a physique that fits those jeans. I continue to be amazed, when clothes shopping, at the vast inventory of XL and 2XL and 3XL sizes. My optimistic side hopes this means all the smaller sizes have been bought and only these vast sizes remain because nobody's big enough to fit!

59ee717de524f921efb7f2984157339f

(871)

on December 17, 2011
at 05:15 PM

OK, no problem, i can drop the coconut stuff right away. I just thought it was supposed to help with satiation. So drop coconut milk and coconut oil? What oil should I use for cooking?

1f8384be58052b6b96f476e475abdc74

(2231)

on December 17, 2011
at 04:56 PM

more red meat, less white. dont add fat eat the fat it comes with. try avocados a couple days a weeks. try phasing out coconut stuff. red meat, veg but not a lot no need to use them to fill yourself up as theyre not that great in reality, good bone broth/stock, eggs good ones, plain taters when you work out

59ee717de524f921efb7f2984157339f

(871)

on December 17, 2011
at 04:42 PM

Melinda, nope wasn't overweight. Im eating Paleo to maintain weight. Its definitely not working. Im trying to experiment and find the right formula for me. ITs just so hard. I have tried every single suggestion that all paleo hackers have given, to no success. Im pretty much following the Leptin reset: Always Big Breaky - Coconut oil,Egg,egg white, turkey, or chicken, with little carbs - Coffee with coconut milk or cream Lunch - Chicken or Steak with some Green Veg or Broth, Dinner - Salmon or Chicken with Salad etc Always hungry after dinner, with unmanageable sugar cravings. any ideas?

Ed71ab1c75c6a9bd217a599db0a3e117

(25472)

on December 17, 2011
at 04:10 PM

Doris.......read this. This is how I do it.http://jackkruse.com/finding-your-primal-sense/

77877f762c40637911396daa19b53094

(78467)

on December 17, 2011
at 03:26 PM

Were you overweight when you started Paleo? Maybe try stopping your workouts to lower your hunger, add a few carbs with meals only and follow the Mastering Leptin or Leptin Rx protocols. If what you are doing is not working...STOP doing it. There is a lot of range in macronutrient composition with Paleo, keep experimenting.

0e395acc856e3353f3f5892e6b09b0e7

(1227)

on December 17, 2011
at 03:03 PM

Nance, I also love to see your responses. I'm now 69 and feel the best ever. I am almost jealous of myself for having such a good life. I've been enjoying this life of bacon for about 1 and 1/2 years and it keeps on getting better.

0e395acc856e3353f3f5892e6b09b0e7

(1227)

on December 17, 2011
at 02:58 PM

Amen to all that Quilt. Time is my greatest treasure and I will be the one to chose how to spend it. I have an invisible tatoo on the inside of my left wrist that says, "Let Go" It is the answer to almost everything. I just don't always know how to do it.

98bf2ca7f8778c79cd3f6c962011cfdc

(24286)

on December 17, 2011
at 02:55 PM

I assure you Anna I do not whistle while I walk or ever for that matter. But yes size changes. You lose mass internally so things inside are a bit less compacted by the fat. It's still a "normal" size so you're not going to be a freak. I promise.

A7768b6c6be7f5d6acc76e5efa66464c

on December 17, 2011
at 02:39 PM

Yes Wisper, please may we have the gumbo recipe? I make a meanone but haven't tried since going Paleo, mainly on account of not being sure the best substitute for the wheat flour/industrial oil-based roux. What works best for creating that brown, nutty elixir?

C796170f6af6f9b9afbf31f4550d1d84

(345)

on December 17, 2011
at 02:18 PM

Oh- some TMI and explanation about the "whistling" part of the woowoo. *There is a story of guy that kept bragging to his friends about the enormous proportions of his hardware. A friend of his said that's great for you and all that- but I wouldn't want for everyone to know that my wife is now has an enormous cavern that whistles when she walks. For more Paleo hacks: http://paleohacks.com/questions/83884/what-are-the-downsides-of-your-transformation#ixzz1gnl36xzW

C796170f6af6f9b9afbf31f4550d1d84

(345)

on December 17, 2011
at 02:16 PM

Oh- some TMI and explanation about the "whistling" part of the woowoo. *There is a story of guy that kept bragging to his friends about the enormous proportions of his hardware. A friend of his said that's great for you and all that- but I would want for everyone to know that my wife is now has an enormous cavern that whistles when she walks.

C796170f6af6f9b9afbf31f4550d1d84

(345)

on December 17, 2011
at 02:11 PM

Excuse me for interrupting the skin thing- but- uh- I hope that ya'll are kidding about the- whistling woo woo. Please tell me that I am going to go a bigger box down below. That's a joke, right?

Fc891327db916c10347b008acde0daca

(1022)

on December 17, 2011
at 09:19 AM

TeaElf, the exact thing happened to me last week. One day of halfway-flu, and i was pissed. Last year, without Paleo, when I had the flu, it lastet at least 2 weeks....

Cf4576cbcc44fc7f2294135609bce9e5

(3125)

on December 17, 2011
at 02:33 AM

google it, you might have a food allergy

Cf4576cbcc44fc7f2294135609bce9e5

(3125)

on December 17, 2011
at 02:27 AM

you call that a trainer? look at all that bad advise, fire them

Ce7e28769d92d5de5533e775b1de966e

on December 17, 2011
at 01:21 AM

You never want to read the backs of all the shiny packages to see what is in there or if there is a magical unicorn surprise of health? I don't buy it - I just like to and find it educational and interesting. It also allows people to ask me questions about why I'm reading the packages and that in itself opens a door to nutritional sharing. Many don't know that sugar goes by other names, I find. Also, I have a tangibility issue and must see, hold, touch all my food and ask questions of the farmers and butchers so sadly no meat by mail for me. Oh! Unless it's jerky. Less chance of a FUBAR imo.

742ff8ba4ff55e84593ede14ac1c3cab

(3536)

on December 17, 2011
at 01:11 AM

I was never overweight by the way. So no transformation.

742ff8ba4ff55e84593ede14ac1c3cab

(3536)

on December 17, 2011
at 01:09 AM

Chicken legs has to be my biggest complaint...my legs use to be huge from all the soccer, but I ran on 30 grams of carbs while playing competitive and that really did a number on my legs. Slowly trying to regain the muscle.

96bf58d8c6bd492dc5b8ae46203fe247

(37227)

on December 17, 2011
at 01:01 AM

Hmm, I think the nearest Sears outlet is 2 hours away but I'll check online.

96bf58d8c6bd492dc5b8ae46203fe247

(37227)

on December 17, 2011
at 12:58 AM

+1 for the word picture you painted. :-))

98bf2ca7f8778c79cd3f6c962011cfdc

(24286)

on December 17, 2011
at 12:38 AM

No. This is a lie. These people are rare. They are genetic freaks of nature. I looked like a deflated balloon. No one in their right mind would go through what I went through and pay what I had to pay for my 5 surgeries if they didn't have to. Of this I can assure you. Granted I lost a lot of weight but it makes me crazy when people want to argue with me about the skin shrinkage thing.

26b7615ef542394102785a67a2786867

(7967)

on December 17, 2011
at 12:02 AM

Hahaha. There are solutions to these issues! I will not run without my spandex compression shorts. And have you heard of Bodyglide?

531db50c958cf4d5605ee0c5ae8a57be

(8878)

on December 16, 2011
at 11:03 PM

To some extent the skin will shrink. This depends on the thickness of the skin and it's highly variable. Men's skin tends to be more resilient than women's.

1d0497f8781845ab371b479455bfee8e

(11157)

on December 16, 2011
at 11:01 PM

That's great Megan! Have you thought about maintaining your current weight or do you plan on going leaner? A size 6 is a pretty healthy weight :)

1d0497f8781845ab371b479455bfee8e

(11157)

on December 16, 2011
at 11:00 PM

Or places like Sears Outlet, where all of their clothes are under $10, and they have big sales on Tuesday where everything is $7, and you buy 4 items and get one free if you sign up for their Rewards program.

1d0497f8781845ab371b479455bfee8e

(11157)

on December 16, 2011
at 10:59 PM

I've had to up my starches as well, and have seen positive results from it. I love me some Kerrygold butter too! I even put a dollop of it in my espresso in the morning, in lieu of cream or sugar :)

7255a87872b75e6f691d84dca769b87e

on December 16, 2011
at 10:49 PM

Improving the curves at the waist can be a downside too - see my comment. And downgrading the curves above the waist can be an upside - I've been teeny up top all my life and quite enjoy the ENORMOUS selection of bandeaus and string bikinis I can buy.

7255a87872b75e6f691d84dca769b87e

on December 16, 2011
at 10:44 PM

My plan is to nudge my family into CrossFit so people other than (and fitter than - I'm fit but I'm no crossfit games competitor) I can rant about Paleo to them.

7255a87872b75e6f691d84dca769b87e

on December 16, 2011
at 10:36 PM

It was really hard for me to eat enough as well until I started eating lots of starch. I used to have my dinner, plug it into fitday, realize I hadn't eaten enough, then drag out 1000 calories of Kerrygold Cheese for dessert....the most delicious source of K2 one will ever taste. However $5.00 of cheese everyday is not as cost effective as $1.00 of sweet potato.

183f5c49a7a9548b6f5238d1f33cb35e

(1716)

on December 16, 2011
at 10:22 PM

what has been seen cannot be unseen

96440612cf0fcf366bf5ad8f776fca84

(19463)

on December 16, 2011
at 10:21 PM

That's an awesome superpower. Mine is being able to go out in temperatures as low as 40'F without a jacket, with only a shirt and no T-Shirt under it, and only barely notice that it's cold and having people stare. That and not get colds.

96440612cf0fcf366bf5ad8f776fca84

(19463)

on December 16, 2011
at 10:18 PM

I've donated two large bags of mostly pants that are now too large and some shirts. Someone else will use'em somewhere. I've kept a few beat up but too large pairs of jeans for use around fixing the house or whatever dirty work comes up. But hey, most clothes wear out over time, so no great loss - had to buy new ones eventually.

96440612cf0fcf366bf5ad8f776fca84

(19463)

on December 16, 2011
at 10:15 PM

Donate the grains and beans, don't let others starve, even if it's not very healthy, at least they'll have some calories.

96440612cf0fcf366bf5ad8f776fca84

(19463)

on December 16, 2011
at 10:14 PM

That's just pure awesome!

96440612cf0fcf366bf5ad8f776fca84

(19463)

on December 16, 2011
at 10:14 PM

I find I'm buying more stuff online in terms of food than before (frozen bison products via FedEx from Northstar Bison, coconut products via Amazon), and far less stuff in stores (well, veggies and greens mostly.) I've always read labels, and usually buy stuff that doesn't need labels (raw ingredients.)

96440612cf0fcf366bf5ad8f776fca84

(19463)

on December 16, 2011
at 10:12 PM

From The Unconquerable Dave, it seems that excess skin does eventually shrink on its own. http://www.marksdailyapple.com/the-unconquerable-dave-still-unconquerable/

96440612cf0fcf366bf5ad8f776fca84

(19463)

on December 16, 2011
at 10:09 PM

Absolutely true. I'm a sysadmin by day, and I code for fun. All of a sudden, I seem to know a ton of bio/nutritional stuff too. All from podcasts, paleo books, seminars, and forums. I'm basking in the geekiness of it all!

96440612cf0fcf366bf5ad8f776fca84

(19463)

on December 16, 2011
at 10:07 PM

It not only deserves several upvotes (one's from me), but it also happens to be true.

Fb67dc30cead043d1d13ea503a3044dc

(3280)

on December 16, 2011
at 09:17 PM

Woo hoo! Nice! I'm down to a six, too. Amazing, isn't it, all that shrinkage?

96bf58d8c6bd492dc5b8ae46203fe247

(37227)

on December 16, 2011
at 09:17 PM

Lots of people in southern NV are transient or poor; those who stay only wear jeans 3-4 months per year so they aren't a major presence in second-hand stores.

Fb67dc30cead043d1d13ea503a3044dc

(3280)

on December 16, 2011
at 09:16 PM

Oh no! I'm sorry! Tinnitus is its own special brand of hell. I still have mine, but at night I run a fan so it masks the sound a bit, and I try to pretend the racket in my ears is crickets. Loud crickets.

Fb67dc30cead043d1d13ea503a3044dc

(3280)

on December 16, 2011
at 09:15 PM

LOL! Superpower, I like it. I couldn't find shorts this summer at the Levi store in my new size. Too small, of all things. And I'm not even that small -- the stores seem to be catering to the overall larger clientele these days.

96bf58d8c6bd492dc5b8ae46203fe247

(37227)

on December 16, 2011
at 09:14 PM

Second-hand jeans aren't very available here. It's all thin stuff.

Fb67dc30cead043d1d13ea503a3044dc

(3280)

on December 16, 2011
at 09:13 PM

And think you're a crazy zealot who can't mind their own business! I have overstepped quite a few times. I now try to just keep it zipped unless they ask, now that I've realized I was proselytizing. :)

Fb67dc30cead043d1d13ea503a3044dc

(3280)

on December 16, 2011
at 09:11 PM

I got a cold for a half-day recently (which is epically SHORT compared to how sick I used to get) and I was like, "WHAT? IT *DARES*???"

Fb67dc30cead043d1d13ea503a3044dc

(3280)

on December 16, 2011
at 09:10 PM

Yep. This. I miss my girls. I told my sister that I love the weight loss, but my diminished boobs look like a couple of Cessnas parked in a 747 hangar. :)

531db50c958cf4d5605ee0c5ae8a57be

(8878)

on December 16, 2011
at 07:50 PM

That gets my vote for "most understated use of 'lol'"

Cbda678b2a6bf0537d8c4ea0ce8aa9ad

(4319)

on December 16, 2011
at 07:45 PM

Also, the Paleo diet is noticeably more expensive... so spend more on food. Also, all that whole grain I had stored in the house... gone to waste.

F0e558010a2ecb31fa37b7c491596b8e

(3850)

on December 16, 2011
at 07:23 PM

Still have mine. No worse. Can't say it's better per se, but I think about it a lot less. It used to obsessively bother me when I was stressed out.

98bf2ca7f8778c79cd3f6c962011cfdc

(24286)

on December 16, 2011
at 07:16 PM

That little tidbit of TMI was just for you my sweet Aravind. Happy Friday!!

531db50c958cf4d5605ee0c5ae8a57be

(8878)

on December 16, 2011
at 07:05 PM

Ouch! That deserves an upvote...

1321554fbe74ad09e97c6e8c354021cc

(524)

on December 16, 2011
at 06:22 PM

Unfortunately I live in Finland... Europe doesn't seem to make normal clothes. If I want jeans that are just normal, I have to wait until next time I go back to the states... :-/

96bf58d8c6bd492dc5b8ae46203fe247

(37227)

on December 16, 2011
at 06:17 PM

We can call ourselves the Older-And-Wisers! :-))

2fdb7a6236b04bdfc3dacaf2bc236515

(528)

on December 16, 2011
at 06:16 PM

She's an awesome trainer, really. She's the person people go to when rehab goes wrong. I just don't listen a word she says about nutrition :)

91fe5b7e10068df9f147ee84320e38f7

(614)

on December 16, 2011
at 05:57 PM

Ah, yes chicha in that context makes much more sense. And glad you didn't experience any unwanted shrinkage ;-)

Ca2c940a1947e6200883908592956680

(8574)

on December 16, 2011
at 05:48 PM

"Chicha" is colloquial Spanish for meat "carne (de comer)". Just to clear up the unfortunate ambiguity, the lady in question was making two separate statements. One that I need tighter jeans, and two my apparent overall reduction in body-fat has effected my waist-to-hip ratio.

1c67bc28f4e44bbb8770b86df0463df3

(6719)

on December 16, 2011
at 05:45 PM

This is preposterous (actually redickdongulous) - tinnitus and paleo are completely unrelated.

0bc6cbb653cdc5e82400f6da920f11eb

(19245)

on December 16, 2011
at 05:22 PM

well at least you weren't physically neutered by a tortilla chip :S

95eda9fa0cec952b482e869c34a566b6

on December 16, 2011
at 05:16 PM

It could be a coincidence. People can develop issues with the bones in their ears that will cause tinnitus.

D1c02d4fc5125a670cf419dbb3e18ba7

on December 16, 2011
at 05:07 PM

I had to downvote you because the bigger snatch is not acceptable. I might have to tie a board onto me now so I don't fall in.

Dc5144de5078c44a2b106ff25778fd3d

(308)

on December 16, 2011
at 05:02 PM

Hey Nance--glad I'm not the only old-timer here!

6714718e2245e5190017d643a7614157

on December 16, 2011
at 04:57 PM

+1 About the new clothes also. Luckily I have no sense of style so instead of countless thousands on new clothes it was more like a couple of hundred dollars on new clothes.

91fe5b7e10068df9f147ee84320e38f7

(614)

on December 16, 2011
at 04:51 PM

I think (hope) he means "chichi/s" (moobs)? The alternative meaning would be some seriously unwanted shrinkage!

66e6b190e62fb3bcf42d4c60801c7bf6

(12407)

on December 16, 2011
at 04:51 PM

:-) I'm with you on the clothes. luckily i was able to fun alot of the new wardrobe through ebay.

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(10663)

on December 16, 2011
at 04:48 PM

Wisper, it would be selfish of you not to post that recipe.

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(5639)

on December 16, 2011
at 04:31 PM

I've been a drummer all my life, so tinnitus comes withe territory (did I mention I was quite irresponsible as a younger me, and didn't regularly wear ear-plugs?). It seems as if my tinnitus has actually become less noticeable on Paleo.

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(5639)

on December 16, 2011
at 04:30 PM

What's chicha??

149af6e19a06675614dfbb6838a7d7c0

(3202)

on December 16, 2011
at 04:22 PM

Talk to me baby...its gettin bigger.

Ed92809f18ca70e360768b4f2c9c9df6

(356)

on December 16, 2011
at 04:08 PM

wait, what gets bigger?!

Ed92809f18ca70e360768b4f2c9c9df6

(356)

on December 16, 2011
at 04:06 PM

perhaps this is a necessary evil, considering that it takes a lot to overcome CW, which is so radically different. I know I was convinced by the science behind paleo, nothing less

531db50c958cf4d5605ee0c5ae8a57be

(8878)

on December 16, 2011
at 04:03 PM

I had to replace my clothes at least three times. Still paying off that credit card...

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(8239)

on December 16, 2011
at 03:58 PM

Great! Keep in mind you don't have to buy new. Lots of good second hand clothes available. Not being huge on "style," I am just plain pleased with my one pair of black jeans that fit!

96bf58d8c6bd492dc5b8ae46203fe247

(37227)

on December 16, 2011
at 03:49 PM

My jeans are getting baggy and I can't afford new ones very often! Fortunately these are pretty old but I'm waiting as long as I can because whatever size I buy I'll have to wear out. If I get down one more size the new ones will wind up about as loose as the old ones are now, but it's weird to actually need a belt since I couldn't snap these jeans a year ago. :-))

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(4878)

on December 16, 2011
at 03:42 PM

Are you supplementing with Mg?

1d0497f8781845ab371b479455bfee8e

(11157)

on December 16, 2011
at 03:37 PM

Well I love any excuse to shop, and it's better to buy clothes in a smaller size than to buy them because you're putting on weight ;)

9f54852ea376e8e416356f547611e052

(2957)

on December 16, 2011
at 03:27 PM

I have tinnitus but haven't really noticed any difference.

9f54852ea376e8e416356f547611e052

(2957)

on December 16, 2011
at 03:25 PM

I thought that would be my main complaint, but I replaced my Friday night pizza routine with a Friday night Cajun Chicken-Shrimp Gumbo routine :) Chicken and shrimp are marinating as I write this :D

9f54852ea376e8e416356f547611e052

(2957)

on December 16, 2011
at 03:24 PM

While I agree, many of these things come naturally with enough experience.

9f54852ea376e8e416356f547611e052

(2957)

on December 16, 2011
at 03:23 PM

Take your pants to the tailor, that's what I'm planning to do.

A968087cc1dd66d480749c02e4619ef4

(20436)

on December 16, 2011
at 02:18 PM

Yes. This. Absolutely this.

Ed71ab1c75c6a9bd217a599db0a3e117

(25472)

on December 16, 2011
at 01:02 PM

I think losing your favorite clothes would be an opportunity to buy some new ones no? I guess it depends on how you perceive your transformation

Ab566019baa884ec9e3327c108586ff8

(1055)

on December 16, 2011
at 11:26 AM

Dnot think i could respect the workout advice from a vegan

B0fe7b5a9a197cd293978150cbd9055f

(8938)

on December 16, 2011
at 10:53 AM

I lost a good layer of fat but I still have soccer legs :D.

6cdc6b1e75690cfcc4804a6c9eaa910a

(2171)

on December 16, 2011
at 09:59 AM

Banded Girl - sounds like it might be time for a new trainer?

1321554fbe74ad09e97c6e8c354021cc

(524)

on December 16, 2011
at 06:55 AM

I have been squatting!! I just don't hve to tote around as much weight anymore, I guess. Hopefully Bike season next spring will help bring my calves back...

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(10663)

on December 16, 2011
at 06:32 AM

Get started on those squats Trent!

100fd85230060e754fc13394eee6d6f1

(18696)

on December 16, 2011
at 05:44 AM

What are chicken legs?

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531db50c958cf4d5605ee0c5ae8a57be

on December 16, 2011
at 01:01 PM

Sexual mania.

Life was was less complicated when I was chemically neutered by tortilla chips and pizza...

531db50c958cf4d5605ee0c5ae8a57be

(8878)

on December 16, 2011
at 07:05 PM

Ouch! That deserves an upvote...

0bc6cbb653cdc5e82400f6da920f11eb

(19245)

on December 16, 2011
at 05:22 PM

well at least you weren't physically neutered by a tortilla chip :S

96440612cf0fcf366bf5ad8f776fca84

(19463)

on December 16, 2011
at 10:07 PM

It not only deserves several upvotes (one's from me), but it also happens to be true.

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Medium avatar

(10663)

on December 16, 2011
at 06:22 AM

Knowing too much. Second-guessing my nutrition, when I shouldn't even have to think about it. I've benefited greatly from Paleo health-wise. But the amount of knowledge I've gained about omega-6s, antinutrients, insulin, leptin, vitamins, etc. is more detrimental than it is helpful. Yes I apply this knowledge, but quite frankly, it gets exhausting. I don't wanna have to think "I'm going to eat this grass-fed beef here because it has a better o3:o6 ratio and eat it with coconut oil because it has medium chain triglycerides and I'll have it with a side of spinach, but not too much spinach because it has oxalates." I just wanna be like "Me see meat. Me eat meat. Meat goooood."

Ed92809f18ca70e360768b4f2c9c9df6

(356)

on December 16, 2011
at 04:06 PM

perhaps this is a necessary evil, considering that it takes a lot to overcome CW, which is so radically different. I know I was convinced by the science behind paleo, nothing less

A968087cc1dd66d480749c02e4619ef4

(20436)

on December 16, 2011
at 02:18 PM

Yes. This. Absolutely this.

9f54852ea376e8e416356f547611e052

(2957)

on December 16, 2011
at 03:24 PM

While I agree, many of these things come naturally with enough experience.

183f5c49a7a9548b6f5238d1f33cb35e

(1716)

on December 16, 2011
at 10:22 PM

what has been seen cannot be unseen

96440612cf0fcf366bf5ad8f776fca84

(19463)

on December 16, 2011
at 10:09 PM

Absolutely true. I'm a sysadmin by day, and I code for fun. All of a sudden, I seem to know a ton of bio/nutritional stuff too. All from podcasts, paleo books, seminars, and forums. I'm basking in the geekiness of it all!

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98bf2ca7f8778c79cd3f6c962011cfdc

on December 16, 2011
at 03:56 PM

$50k worth of plastic surgery to remove skin I didn't need any longer. Countless thousands on new clothes and shoes. $100 for a new diaphragm (everything gets smaller with weight loss except for ONE THING which gets bigger, lol.)

Ed92809f18ca70e360768b4f2c9c9df6

(356)

on December 16, 2011
at 04:08 PM

wait, what gets bigger?!

149af6e19a06675614dfbb6838a7d7c0

(3202)

on December 16, 2011
at 04:22 PM

Talk to me baby...its gettin bigger.

66e6b190e62fb3bcf42d4c60801c7bf6

(12407)

on December 16, 2011
at 04:51 PM

:-) I'm with you on the clothes. luckily i was able to fun alot of the new wardrobe through ebay.

D1c02d4fc5125a670cf419dbb3e18ba7

on December 16, 2011
at 05:07 PM

I had to downvote you because the bigger snatch is not acceptable. I might have to tie a board onto me now so I don't fall in.

98bf2ca7f8778c79cd3f6c962011cfdc

(24286)

on December 16, 2011
at 07:16 PM

That little tidbit of TMI was just for you my sweet Aravind. Happy Friday!!

C796170f6af6f9b9afbf31f4550d1d84

(345)

on December 17, 2011
at 02:11 PM

Excuse me for interrupting the skin thing- but- uh- I hope that ya'll are kidding about the- whistling woo woo. Please tell me that I am going to go a bigger box down below. That's a joke, right?

98bf2ca7f8778c79cd3f6c962011cfdc

(24286)

on December 17, 2011
at 12:38 AM

No. This is a lie. These people are rare. They are genetic freaks of nature. I looked like a deflated balloon. No one in their right mind would go through what I went through and pay what I had to pay for my 5 surgeries if they didn't have to. Of this I can assure you. Granted I lost a lot of weight but it makes me crazy when people want to argue with me about the skin shrinkage thing.

C796170f6af6f9b9afbf31f4550d1d84

(345)

on December 17, 2011
at 02:16 PM

Oh- some TMI and explanation about the "whistling" part of the woowoo. *There is a story of guy that kept bragging to his friends about the enormous proportions of his hardware. A friend of his said that's great for you and all that- but I would want for everyone to know that my wife is now has an enormous cavern that whistles when she walks.

96440612cf0fcf366bf5ad8f776fca84

(19463)

on December 16, 2011
at 10:12 PM

From The Unconquerable Dave, it seems that excess skin does eventually shrink on its own. http://www.marksdailyapple.com/the-unconquerable-dave-still-unconquerable/

531db50c958cf4d5605ee0c5ae8a57be

(8878)

on December 16, 2011
at 07:50 PM

That gets my vote for "most understated use of 'lol'"

531db50c958cf4d5605ee0c5ae8a57be

(8878)

on December 16, 2011
at 11:03 PM

To some extent the skin will shrink. This depends on the thickness of the skin and it's highly variable. Men's skin tends to be more resilient than women's.

6714718e2245e5190017d643a7614157

on December 16, 2011
at 04:57 PM

+1 About the new clothes also. Luckily I have no sense of style so instead of countless thousands on new clothes it was more like a couple of hundred dollars on new clothes.

C796170f6af6f9b9afbf31f4550d1d84

(345)

on December 17, 2011
at 02:18 PM

Oh- some TMI and explanation about the "whistling" part of the woowoo. *There is a story of guy that kept bragging to his friends about the enormous proportions of his hardware. A friend of his said that's great for you and all that- but I wouldn't want for everyone to know that my wife is now has an enormous cavern that whistles when she walks. For more Paleo hacks: http://paleohacks.com/questions/83884/what-are-the-downsides-of-your-transformation#ixzz1gnl36xzW

98bf2ca7f8778c79cd3f6c962011cfdc

(24286)

on December 17, 2011
at 02:55 PM

I assure you Anna I do not whistle while I walk or ever for that matter. But yes size changes. You lose mass internally so things inside are a bit less compacted by the fat. It's still a "normal" size so you're not going to be a freak. I promise.

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Ce7e28769d92d5de5533e775b1de966e

on December 16, 2011
at 03:46 PM

I'm going to be running very fast and hiding after I post this, but, no downsides for me at all. I think I'm 8 months in?

My diet actually didn't change by much - just eliminated a few things and added in a few. My clothes fit exactly the same. I do CrossFit and lift and have happily gained 12lbs of muscle - tubers make me grown big and strong. My rosacea is gone.

WAIT! I have a downside! I now take longer in stores because I have to read the backs of all new products that I see in the grocery. No more running in and out. WAIT! Another - I have to eat so goddamn much more now that I must eat before I go out to dinner so I can afford the bill. Which basically means I no longer go out to dinner. So sashimi is a very fond and veryveryvery missed memory.

Ce7e28769d92d5de5533e775b1de966e

on December 17, 2011
at 01:21 AM

You never want to read the backs of all the shiny packages to see what is in there or if there is a magical unicorn surprise of health? I don't buy it - I just like to and find it educational and interesting. It also allows people to ask me questions about why I'm reading the packages and that in itself opens a door to nutritional sharing. Many don't know that sugar goes by other names, I find. Also, I have a tangibility issue and must see, hold, touch all my food and ask questions of the farmers and butchers so sadly no meat by mail for me. Oh! Unless it's jerky. Less chance of a FUBAR imo.

96440612cf0fcf366bf5ad8f776fca84

(19463)

on December 16, 2011
at 10:14 PM

I find I'm buying more stuff online in terms of food than before (frozen bison products via FedEx from Northstar Bison, coconut products via Amazon), and far less stuff in stores (well, veggies and greens mostly.) I've always read labels, and usually buy stuff that doesn't need labels (raw ingredients.)

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B0fe7b5a9a197cd293978150cbd9055f

(8938)

on December 16, 2011
at 10:55 AM

Perfectionism. Every time I get a health problem I get damn pissed.

Fb67dc30cead043d1d13ea503a3044dc

(3280)

on December 16, 2011
at 09:11 PM

I got a cold for a half-day recently (which is epically SHORT compared to how sick I used to get) and I was like, "WHAT? IT *DARES*???"

Fc891327db916c10347b008acde0daca

(1022)

on December 17, 2011
at 09:19 AM

TeaElf, the exact thing happened to me last week. One day of halfway-flu, and i was pissed. Last year, without Paleo, when I had the flu, it lastet at least 2 weeks....

13
Dfada6fe4982ab3b7557172f20632da8

(5332)

on December 16, 2011
at 05:47 AM

Every time I think of something to write I'm already halfway to rationalising it into a positive. Does that count?

96440612cf0fcf366bf5ad8f776fca84

(19463)

on December 16, 2011
at 10:14 PM

That's just pure awesome!

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Cbda678b2a6bf0537d8c4ea0ce8aa9ad

(4319)

on December 16, 2011
at 06:49 AM

Downside? Maybe visiting friends and having to be persnickety about my diet and clue them in on what I can eat and what I can't. However, they are usually very nice about it and seek to please. They also learn a lot by asking questions.

96440612cf0fcf366bf5ad8f776fca84

(19463)

on December 16, 2011
at 10:15 PM

Donate the grains and beans, don't let others starve, even if it's not very healthy, at least they'll have some calories.

Cbda678b2a6bf0537d8c4ea0ce8aa9ad

(4319)

on December 16, 2011
at 07:45 PM

Also, the Paleo diet is noticeably more expensive... so spend more on food. Also, all that whole grain I had stored in the house... gone to waste.

218f4d92627e4289cc81178fce5b4d00

on February 15, 2012
at 11:17 AM

I have excommunicated one friend who just wouldn't quit bugging me about it and crapping on about balance and what about this, what about that. Toxic friends get dtiched with the toxic food.

9
Dc5144de5078c44a2b106ff25778fd3d

on December 16, 2011
at 03:33 PM

Seeing friends and relatives who clearly need to get on the Paleo plan immediately, but knowing that if I push it too hard they will resentfully continue with their SAD.

Cf4576cbcc44fc7f2294135609bce9e5

(3125)

on December 17, 2011
at 08:43 PM

im new what does SAD mean in referance to food?

7255a87872b75e6f691d84dca769b87e

on December 16, 2011
at 10:44 PM

My plan is to nudge my family into CrossFit so people other than (and fitter than - I'm fit but I'm no crossfit games competitor) I can rant about Paleo to them.

Fb67dc30cead043d1d13ea503a3044dc

(3280)

on December 16, 2011
at 09:13 PM

And think you're a crazy zealot who can't mind their own business! I have overstepped quite a few times. I now try to just keep it zipped unless they ask, now that I've realized I was proselytizing. :)

518bce04b12cd77741237e1f61075194

(11577)

on December 18, 2011
at 01:19 AM

@Evzone "standard american diet". Also, I am easily characterized as a zealot for a lot of other things (opinions about bacteria, viruses, vaccines, breast feeding, age of conception, pharmaceuticals, agriculture policy, culinary choices), it is much more difficult to be the food zealot however. You know how much you hate that raw vegan that won't shut up? I picture that person, and zip it if it seems inappropriate. Food is very personal!

9
77953c433077c7a65da802327ea7c529

on December 16, 2011
at 12:26 PM

I miss pizza, not going to lie.

9f54852ea376e8e416356f547611e052

(2957)

on December 16, 2011
at 03:25 PM

I thought that would be my main complaint, but I replaced my Friday night pizza routine with a Friday night Cajun Chicken-Shrimp Gumbo routine :) Chicken and shrimp are marinating as I write this :D

Medium avatar

(10663)

on December 16, 2011
at 04:48 PM

Wisper, it would be selfish of you not to post that recipe.

A7768b6c6be7f5d6acc76e5efa66464c

on December 17, 2011
at 02:39 PM

Yes Wisper, please may we have the gumbo recipe? I make a meanone but haven't tried since going Paleo, mainly on account of not being sure the best substitute for the wheat flour/industrial oil-based roux. What works best for creating that brown, nutty elixir?

8b7835a7c00bd5ae5d0c4d3d6fbdb17a

(100)

on November 28, 2012
at 06:57 AM

I say the same thing, but then I eat a steak and.......... :)

8
96bf58d8c6bd492dc5b8ae46203fe247

(37227)

on December 16, 2011
at 03:56 PM

Okay, I'll speak for the old people--I'm shrinking but my skin doesn't keep up! My usual joke is I started as a hippo, I'm currently a rhino and I hope to become a bloodhound.

I'm probably lucky my skin is shrinking as nicely as it is, since I'm down about 40 pounds and the worst is a few more wrinkles on my face and a half-withered double chin. I asume I'll wind up with folds of skin on my underarms and I wonder what'll happen when I lose the rest of the midriff and belly mounds. At half-gone, they're just sagging a bit which is good since I thought they'd already be turning into folds.

I'll just have to be proud of the residue of my obesity because plastic surgery is not a budget possibility.

Emotionally, socially and physically there is no down side for me. Everything about my life is better than it was 8 months ago.

Dc5144de5078c44a2b106ff25778fd3d

(308)

on December 16, 2011
at 05:02 PM

Hey Nance--glad I'm not the only old-timer here!

0e395acc856e3353f3f5892e6b09b0e7

(1227)

on December 17, 2011
at 03:03 PM

Nance, I also love to see your responses. I'm now 69 and feel the best ever. I am almost jealous of myself for having such a good life. I've been enjoying this life of bacon for about 1 and 1/2 years and it keeps on getting better.

96bf58d8c6bd492dc5b8ae46203fe247

(37227)

on December 16, 2011
at 06:17 PM

We can call ourselves the Older-And-Wisers! :-))

7
7bf306ada57db47547e9da39a415edf6

(11214)

on December 16, 2011
at 05:18 PM

No pants at the store in my size.

Relative to where-ever I was on the attractiveness scale, I now feel unsure that I can control this new superpower.

Fb67dc30cead043d1d13ea503a3044dc

(3280)

on December 16, 2011
at 09:15 PM

LOL! Superpower, I like it. I couldn't find shorts this summer at the Levi store in my new size. Too small, of all things. And I'm not even that small -- the stores seem to be catering to the overall larger clientele these days.

7
Medium avatar

(1240)

on December 16, 2011
at 06:51 AM

Upside? Improving the curves at and below my waist. Downside? Downgrading the curves above the waist.

7255a87872b75e6f691d84dca769b87e

on December 16, 2011
at 10:49 PM

Improving the curves at the waist can be a downside too - see my comment. And downgrading the curves above the waist can be an upside - I've been teeny up top all my life and quite enjoy the ENORMOUS selection of bandeaus and string bikinis I can buy.

Fb67dc30cead043d1d13ea503a3044dc

(3280)

on December 16, 2011
at 09:10 PM

Yep. This. I miss my girls. I told my sister that I love the weight loss, but my diminished boobs look like a couple of Cessnas parked in a 747 hangar. :)

518bce04b12cd77741237e1f61075194

(11577)

on December 18, 2011
at 01:21 AM

That's funny, my curves at/below the waist were pretty proportional to the curves above the waist. Expanded on either side as my waist contracted. Quite a fun side effect.

Medium avatar

(1240)

on December 18, 2011
at 11:50 PM

I'm very envious of the women who saw an increase on top. My hips didn't grow, but my waist dramatically shrunk. I'm hoping and praying that there's something I can eat or do to undo the loss above :/

6
C796170f6af6f9b9afbf31f4550d1d84

(345)

on December 17, 2011
at 02:06 PM

hmmmmm. Downsides- I am always thinking (obsessing) about getting stuck at work or out without proper food. I have to admit that I am a little freaked out to learn by trial and error that I only feel really good when I have a considerable amount of fat in my day- hence the getting stuck without food because everything is so freaking lean- it just won't hold me, also the lingering fear from prior thinking that FAT is BAD.

The upside however is the love affair with myself.I have always been so down on myself- not nice at all. Frankly- I am not really traditionally attractive at all- but now I FEEL beautiful. I look at myself, I pat my flat stomach- I brush my hair and wink at myself. I think that I am so hot that it doesn't matter if anyone else does or not. Me and ME are so very happy together!

6
Fb67dc30cead043d1d13ea503a3044dc

(3280)

on December 16, 2011
at 09:17 PM

I kinda miss having junk in the trunk. I want a butt you could serve tea on.

94a4a87e3d2e1e9160b6ed77678b4bea

(1311)

on December 19, 2011
at 01:14 AM

Wanna swap? Can't rid of my trunk junk no matter how much everything else goes down.

95eda9fa0cec952b482e869c34a566b6

on December 18, 2011
at 01:47 AM

You'll probably need a special permit for that.

96bf58d8c6bd492dc5b8ae46203fe247

(37227)

on December 17, 2011
at 12:58 AM

+1 for the word picture you painted. :-))

6
49814ea17c38d170edecc88a153a61b2

on December 16, 2011
at 09:02 PM

Having to buy new pants every month! Started in August as a size 12 pants and now in December am buying size 6s!

1d0497f8781845ab371b479455bfee8e

(11157)

on December 16, 2011
at 11:01 PM

That's great Megan! Have you thought about maintaining your current weight or do you plan on going leaner? A size 6 is a pretty healthy weight :)

Fb67dc30cead043d1d13ea503a3044dc

(3280)

on December 16, 2011
at 09:17 PM

Woo hoo! Nice! I'm down to a six, too. Amazing, isn't it, all that shrinkage?

6
Ca2c940a1947e6200883908592956680

(8574)

on December 16, 2011
at 01:14 PM

Apparently so I am told, I need to buy new jeans as I no longer "fill them out" as I did before and she says I no longer have any "chicha".

531db50c958cf4d5605ee0c5ae8a57be

(8878)

on December 16, 2011
at 04:03 PM

I had to replace my clothes at least three times. Still paying off that credit card...

Medium avatar

(5639)

on December 16, 2011
at 04:30 PM

What's chicha??

91fe5b7e10068df9f147ee84320e38f7

(614)

on December 16, 2011
at 04:51 PM

I think (hope) he means "chichi/s" (moobs)? The alternative meaning would be some seriously unwanted shrinkage!

91fe5b7e10068df9f147ee84320e38f7

(614)

on December 16, 2011
at 05:57 PM

Ah, yes chicha in that context makes much more sense. And glad you didn't experience any unwanted shrinkage ;-)

Ca2c940a1947e6200883908592956680

(8574)

on December 16, 2011
at 05:48 PM

"Chicha" is colloquial Spanish for meat "carne (de comer)". Just to clear up the unfortunate ambiguity, the lady in question was making two separate statements. One that I need tighter jeans, and two my apparent overall reduction in body-fat has effected my waist-to-hip ratio.

96440612cf0fcf366bf5ad8f776fca84

(19463)

on December 16, 2011
at 10:18 PM

I've donated two large bags of mostly pants that are now too large and some shirts. Someone else will use'em somewhere. I've kept a few beat up but too large pairs of jeans for use around fixing the house or whatever dirty work comes up. But hey, most clothes wear out over time, so no great loss - had to buy new ones eventually.

6
2fdb7a6236b04bdfc3dacaf2bc236515

on December 16, 2011
at 06:30 AM

Listening to my trainer tell me I need to stop eating all fats, buy a juicer, and eat quinoa and soy--and the doubts I feel about my diet as a result. She's never had meat in her life and recently became full-on vegan....

Sagging skin.

Ab566019baa884ec9e3327c108586ff8

(1055)

on December 16, 2011
at 11:26 AM

Dnot think i could respect the workout advice from a vegan

Cf4576cbcc44fc7f2294135609bce9e5

(3125)

on December 17, 2011
at 02:27 AM

you call that a trainer? look at all that bad advise, fire them

2fdb7a6236b04bdfc3dacaf2bc236515

(528)

on December 16, 2011
at 06:16 PM

She's an awesome trainer, really. She's the person people go to when rehab goes wrong. I just don't listen a word she says about nutrition :)

6cdc6b1e75690cfcc4804a6c9eaa910a

(2171)

on December 16, 2011
at 09:59 AM

Banded Girl - sounds like it might be time for a new trainer?

5
082bf04a7486991c5e573a66f1404b3e

on December 16, 2011
at 10:49 AM

Loss of strength, but this comes with loss of size, can't be avoided ;)

And I miss my porridge sometimes, and my old PWO ice-cream shake

4
7255a87872b75e6f691d84dca769b87e

on December 16, 2011
at 10:26 PM

I filled out when I went Paleo. Now I can run for three hours whilst fasted without breaking a sweat, but my thighs and butt chafe because they're so freakin' gigantic now. It sometimes hurts to look fertile and ancestrally attractive.

26b7615ef542394102785a67a2786867

(7967)

on December 17, 2011
at 12:02 AM

Hahaha. There are solutions to these issues! I will not run without my spandex compression shorts. And have you heard of Bodyglide?

518bce04b12cd77741237e1f61075194

(11577)

on December 18, 2011
at 01:23 AM

+1 for the Bodyglide mention. Great for the thighs/but/dareIsayitnipples.

95eda9fa0cec952b482e869c34a566b6

on December 18, 2011
at 01:52 AM

Chamois Butt'r is also great stuff.

3
Cf4576cbcc44fc7f2294135609bce9e5

on December 17, 2011
at 02:30 AM

i miss all the food. i was so good a cook i was fat from my own cooking. but i dont miss the rheumatoid arthritis, diabetes, heart disease, and impotence, and the GOK=God only knows.

3
Medium avatar

on December 16, 2011
at 03:45 PM

Do I understand that you find it annoying to need a new pair of jeans because the ones that used to fit are now too loose? That is pretty nearly inconceivable to me, who has had to make that shopping trip twice since July. Oh, the horror, back to the size I wore three decades ago. What, oh what, will I ever do with my old baggy clothes...

Seriously, count your blessings. Remember that most people in your life are choosing devolution. They need new clothes, too. Larger sizes...

Medium avatar

(8239)

on December 16, 2011
at 03:58 PM

Great! Keep in mind you don't have to buy new. Lots of good second hand clothes available. Not being huge on "style," I am just plain pleased with my one pair of black jeans that fit!

96bf58d8c6bd492dc5b8ae46203fe247

(37227)

on December 16, 2011
at 03:49 PM

My jeans are getting baggy and I can't afford new ones very often! Fortunately these are pretty old but I'm waiting as long as I can because whatever size I buy I'll have to wear out. If I get down one more size the new ones will wind up about as loose as the old ones are now, but it's weird to actually need a belt since I couldn't snap these jeans a year ago. :-))

1d0497f8781845ab371b479455bfee8e

(11157)

on December 16, 2011
at 11:00 PM

Or places like Sears Outlet, where all of their clothes are under $10, and they have big sales on Tuesday where everything is $7, and you buy 4 items and get one free if you sign up for their Rewards program.

96bf58d8c6bd492dc5b8ae46203fe247

(37227)

on December 16, 2011
at 09:17 PM

Lots of people in southern NV are transient or poor; those who stay only wear jeans 3-4 months per year so they aren't a major presence in second-hand stores.

Medium avatar

(8239)

on December 17, 2011
at 05:44 PM

At the end of the day, I would rather have baggy jeans to wear, cinched up with a belt, as evidence of physique transformation, than have a physique that fits those jeans. I continue to be amazed, when clothes shopping, at the vast inventory of XL and 2XL and 3XL sizes. My optimistic side hopes this means all the smaller sizes have been bought and only these vast sizes remain because nobody's big enough to fit!

96bf58d8c6bd492dc5b8ae46203fe247

(37227)

on December 16, 2011
at 09:14 PM

Second-hand jeans aren't very available here. It's all thin stuff.

96bf58d8c6bd492dc5b8ae46203fe247

(37227)

on December 17, 2011
at 01:01 AM

Hmm, I think the nearest Sears outlet is 2 hours away but I'll check online.

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1d0497f8781845ab371b479455bfee8e

(11157)

on December 16, 2011
at 03:35 PM

I have to eat more to stay full, which is difficult for someone like me who has an unpredictable appetite. I often fall short of my target maintenance caloric intake :(

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on December 16, 2011
at 10:36 PM

It was really hard for me to eat enough as well until I started eating lots of starch. I used to have my dinner, plug it into fitday, realize I hadn't eaten enough, then drag out 1000 calories of Kerrygold Cheese for dessert....the most delicious source of K2 one will ever taste. However $5.00 of cheese everyday is not as cost effective as $1.00 of sweet potato.

1d0497f8781845ab371b479455bfee8e

(11157)

on December 16, 2011
at 10:59 PM

I've had to up my starches as well, and have seen positive results from it. I love me some Kerrygold butter too! I even put a dollop of it in my espresso in the morning, in lieu of cream or sugar :)

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Ed71ab1c75c6a9bd217a599db0a3e117

(25472)

on December 17, 2011
at 02:43 PM

Personally now that my transformation is close to over the major downside is that I now fully realize the true value of time and how precious it really is. I have wasted a lot of time unproductively not furthering my life's missions. Now that I am fully aware of deficit because I have an abundance clear thoughts from a brain without inflammation, I need to prioritize my actions to make the greatest impact that I can with the time I have been given.

My transformation has led me to begin to predict my future by inventing it in my present. Now that I think differently, my mistrust of my future is no longer greater than my trust of what I have already conquered in my life. I no longer dwell in the past and live for tomorrows and their promise. I have moved to the edge of my comfort zone where all my fears lie. I am no longer fearful of life's scars. None of us will die without scars; and we all are going to die to be sure if we are paleo or not. My goal post transformation isn't to live forever, the goal is to create something that will outlive me though. I am ready to change my world now today, and everyday I breathe, in this present moment I now must begin to create the changes I see before I get taken out. I now realize fully nothing is promised until we create it.

This is why the optimal life should be tied to the healthy life that is evolutionary biology. Time is my most valuable asset now that I am transformed and I no longer will waste it.

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(1227)

on December 17, 2011
at 02:58 PM

Amen to all that Quilt. Time is my greatest treasure and I will be the one to chose how to spend it. I have an invisible tatoo on the inside of my left wrist that says, "Let Go" It is the answer to almost everything. I just don't always know how to do it.

Ed71ab1c75c6a9bd217a599db0a3e117

(25472)

on December 17, 2011
at 04:10 PM

Doris.......read this. This is how I do it.http://jackkruse.com/finding-your-primal-sense/

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B3c62d89cd47b7d7209b6a99243d0ded

on December 16, 2011
at 09:19 PM

Most everyone that I meet who is eating a sad diet smells 'off' to me, as if they were rotting and dieing from the inside.

It's creeping me out, even if it is a valid approximation of their health level.

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(19463)

on December 16, 2011
at 10:21 PM

That's an awesome superpower. Mine is being able to go out in temperatures as low as 40'F without a jacket, with only a shirt and no T-Shirt under it, and only barely notice that it's cold and having people stare. That and not get colds.

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(1354)

on February 16, 2014
at 03:36 PM

I've added quite a lot of muscle compared to where I started from (I'm almost back up to my 'starting weight', but with the fat traded in for muscle). In the past several weeks it has become painfully (*bah dum tish*) clear that ~2600 calories/day is beginning to fail to provide adequate recovery. I wake up in the middle of the night so sore that I limp into the kitchen, slam down a large bowl of cottage cheese, brush my teeth and limp back into bed. Feeding that much muscle for maintenance, let alone growth, is becoming moderately expensive. And at times, when my eating schedule is restricted, it can be physically uncomfortable to eat that much clean food in such a small window.

C'est la vie. At least my financial outlook is brighter than when I started and no physical discomfort from a reduced feeding window has topped the constant social discomfort of being 'chubby weak'.

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on February 16, 2014
at 03:06 PM

nothing fits! There are worse problems but now I'm a size 00 waist with size 2 thighs. I try to avoid any bulk building leg exercises but have gained leg muscle even with avoiding leg exercises. Anyone know of "athletic" shaped pant brands?

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59ee717de524f921efb7f2984157339f

on December 17, 2011
at 02:54 PM

Confusion. Constant frustration. Im gaining weight and storing fat and my body fat % has shot up, and everyday I don't know If I should be eating more fat/less carbs/protein --->lean meat/tubers etc CONSTANT frustration and confusion.

Im at the gym 4 times a week, eat clean as a whistle, and still pack on fat. Constant frustration and confusion for sure.

And constantly craving and ravenous...never satiated, no matter how much a take everyone's advice to eat more fat (which do) it doesn't work. I've been at less than 20g of carbs (NO Fruit, NO nuts, No ANYTHING) other than meat and green veg and other fats for a while now, and i am always hungry, and storing fat. I'd say that is definitely the worst part.

59ee717de524f921efb7f2984157339f

(871)

on December 17, 2011
at 10:22 PM

OK so no oil, no coconut. Why does everyone tell me to eat fats and lower carbs to loose weight? I really don't get this

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(2231)

on December 18, 2011
at 01:33 AM

if i were stressing as much as you about m body and weight i would pack on fat too, esp coupled with exercise. whatever it is that is going to make you stop obsessing is wat you need to do...possibly after a few weeks off, good sleep and a sledgehammer to your scale

59ee717de524f921efb7f2984157339f

(871)

on December 17, 2011
at 05:15 PM

OK, no problem, i can drop the coconut stuff right away. I just thought it was supposed to help with satiation. So drop coconut milk and coconut oil? What oil should I use for cooking?

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(2231)

on December 17, 2011
at 04:56 PM

more red meat, less white. dont add fat eat the fat it comes with. try avocados a couple days a weeks. try phasing out coconut stuff. red meat, veg but not a lot no need to use them to fill yourself up as theyre not that great in reality, good bone broth/stock, eggs good ones, plain taters when you work out

59ee717de524f921efb7f2984157339f

(871)

on December 17, 2011
at 04:42 PM

Melinda, nope wasn't overweight. Im eating Paleo to maintain weight. Its definitely not working. Im trying to experiment and find the right formula for me. ITs just so hard. I have tried every single suggestion that all paleo hackers have given, to no success. Im pretty much following the Leptin reset: Always Big Breaky - Coconut oil,Egg,egg white, turkey, or chicken, with little carbs - Coffee with coconut milk or cream Lunch - Chicken or Steak with some Green Veg or Broth, Dinner - Salmon or Chicken with Salad etc Always hungry after dinner, with unmanageable sugar cravings. any ideas?

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(78467)

on December 17, 2011
at 03:26 PM

Were you overweight when you started Paleo? Maybe try stopping your workouts to lower your hunger, add a few carbs with meals only and follow the Mastering Leptin or Leptin Rx protocols. If what you are doing is not working...STOP doing it. There is a lot of range in macronutrient composition with Paleo, keep experimenting.

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(2801)

on December 17, 2011
at 09:08 PM

Don't cook with oil. Easy way to lower under-the-radar intake.

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C3295cf01cbde01fc7e1aeff2f15345f

on December 16, 2011
at 02:35 PM

My tinnitus (ringing in ears) has become a lot louder since eating Paleo. Sometimes it is so annoying that I debate quitting, just to improve my quality of life. I have been paleo for 14 months now.

Has anyone else had this experience regarding tinnitus?

9f54852ea376e8e416356f547611e052

(2957)

on December 16, 2011
at 03:27 PM

I have tinnitus but haven't really noticed any difference.

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(4878)

on December 16, 2011
at 03:42 PM

Are you supplementing with Mg?

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(5639)

on December 16, 2011
at 04:31 PM

I've been a drummer all my life, so tinnitus comes withe territory (did I mention I was quite irresponsible as a younger me, and didn't regularly wear ear-plugs?). It seems as if my tinnitus has actually become less noticeable on Paleo.

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(6719)

on December 16, 2011
at 05:45 PM

This is preposterous (actually redickdongulous) - tinnitus and paleo are completely unrelated.

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on December 16, 2011
at 05:16 PM

It could be a coincidence. People can develop issues with the bones in their ears that will cause tinnitus.

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(3850)

on December 16, 2011
at 07:23 PM

Still have mine. No worse. Can't say it's better per se, but I think about it a lot less. It used to obsessively bother me when I was stressed out.

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(3280)

on December 16, 2011
at 09:16 PM

Oh no! I'm sorry! Tinnitus is its own special brand of hell. I still have mine, but at night I run a fan so it masks the sound a bit, and I try to pretend the racket in my ears is crickets. Loud crickets.

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(3125)

on December 17, 2011
at 02:33 AM

google it, you might have a food allergy

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(38)

on December 19, 2011
at 08:41 AM

@marie Yes, the Mg helps to sleep, but I think that is because it is relaxing and I don't notice a difference with the ringing. @chickenosaurus Could be coincidence, eyes/ears/nose doctor said so too - that the bones change as we age and tinnitus can come and go. @bill1102 - I don't think it's preposterous since I know two other people (from other forums) that have had their tinnitus get worse with paleo. @evzone By doing a rotation elimination of some foods I found that eggs and alchohol and too much coffee make it worse, but nothing yet to make it better...yet.

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on December 22, 2011
at 01:40 PM

I went to a chiropractor who adjusted the bones in my skull ... after a few weeks the noise stopped. If comes back ever once in a while but I go get an adjustment and it is better. I also stopped grinding my teeth this way... give it a try.

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