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whey and oxidized cholesterol

Answered on August 19, 2014
Created April 30, 2011 at 11:04 PM

What do the Paleos have to say about the alleged oxidized cholesterol in whey protein isolate? Does it deserve to be excluded from the diet?

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on June 12, 2011
at 05:01 AM

Coconut milk, a raw pastured egg with an extra yolk if you're feeling saucy, and a half to a full packet of Acai puree is my go-to shake. I try to eat something solid most of the time, though because my brain doesn't seem to tell me I'm full unless I'm eating something I have to chew.

84666a86108dee8d11cbbc85b6382083

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on May 15, 2011
at 02:02 PM

"processed" is a slippery turf.

246ebf68e35743f62e5e187891b9cba0

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on May 02, 2011
at 12:34 AM

People with leaky gut should stay away from all lecitins in my experience... even egg whites have set them off. I fortunately don't have a problem w/eggs but foods with Soy lecitin do aggravate my gut quite a bit.

77877f762c40637911396daa19b53094

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on May 01, 2011
at 11:58 PM

Good Show Joshua. I have stocked up on the Tuna out of convenience but would prefer pemmican. I have been dissuaded from the BPA-content(actual or fantastical) of canned tuna though I have been consuming 1 per diem to deplete my stock. I questioned about the whey as I have a stock of this too---but the 'soy lecithin' has detered me more than the arsenic/cadmium/lead angle. Thoughts on the latter(soy lecithin in whey?)?

246ebf68e35743f62e5e187891b9cba0

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on May 01, 2011
at 03:06 PM

Canned tuna might be ok, I wouldn't lose a lot of sleep over it if it is not a regular staple of your diet. Water can be filtered (Camelbak and others make a charcoal filtered waterbottle, I carry one with me), and baker's chocolate should be fine in moderation.

246ebf68e35743f62e5e187891b9cba0

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on May 01, 2011
at 01:19 PM

Whole food maybe?

Ed71ab1c75c6a9bd217a599db0a3e117

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on May 01, 2011
at 12:41 PM

If you boil it it to ally denatured the proteins. Whey pure has to be cold processed. Master john had a post on his FB page about 6 months ago on this. I bet you could source it from his WAPF page

77877f762c40637911396daa19b53094

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on May 01, 2011
at 02:16 AM

I've heard (from a chemist) that you can boil buttermilk for whey and it has the same bioavailable protein as store-bought minus the negatives. But...he didn't appear too healthy himself so...who's to be believed?

77877f762c40637911396daa19b53094

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on May 01, 2011
at 02:15 AM

don't get so 'personal'l I was just looking for feedback on these issues. Arsenic: I will be living in the area on farmland and have heard it contains arsenic; canned tuna: I have a ready supply; baker's choc: likewise

246ebf68e35743f62e5e187891b9cba0

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on May 01, 2011
at 01:11 AM

Personally, I don't eat bakers chocolate, filter all my water, and don't eat processed fish.

77877f762c40637911396daa19b53094

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on May 01, 2011
at 12:49 AM

just happened to discover a jar of sealed whey and thought I'd put it to use. I will skip the whey given the evidence and create a 'file' in notepad to remind myself. Speaking of Lead: baker's chocolate? Is the verdict still out on this one(lead content?). As to Arsenic: South Surrey British Columbia water supply? ANyone...? Mercury: canned Tuna(even Yellowfin? I know Albacore has high concentrations but...).

Ed71ab1c75c6a9bd217a599db0a3e117

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on May 01, 2011
at 12:45 AM

Totally agree....

Ed71ab1c75c6a9bd217a599db0a3e117

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on May 01, 2011
at 12:43 AM

Insulinogenic to boot too.....

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246ebf68e35743f62e5e187891b9cba0

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on May 01, 2011
at 12:02 AM

My concern about whey has nothing to do with the "oxidized cholesterol", there is plenty of other reasons to not eat whey.

  1. Whey is a very highly processed food.
  2. Arsenic, Cadmium, Lead, Mercury
  3. Quality fats should be emphasized over "lean proteins".

77877f762c40637911396daa19b53094

(78467)

on May 01, 2011
at 12:49 AM

just happened to discover a jar of sealed whey and thought I'd put it to use. I will skip the whey given the evidence and create a 'file' in notepad to remind myself. Speaking of Lead: baker's chocolate? Is the verdict still out on this one(lead content?). As to Arsenic: South Surrey British Columbia water supply? ANyone...? Mercury: canned Tuna(even Yellowfin? I know Albacore has high concentrations but...).

77877f762c40637911396daa19b53094

(78467)

on May 01, 2011
at 11:58 PM

Good Show Joshua. I have stocked up on the Tuna out of convenience but would prefer pemmican. I have been dissuaded from the BPA-content(actual or fantastical) of canned tuna though I have been consuming 1 per diem to deplete my stock. I questioned about the whey as I have a stock of this too---but the 'soy lecithin' has detered me more than the arsenic/cadmium/lead angle. Thoughts on the latter(soy lecithin in whey?)?

246ebf68e35743f62e5e187891b9cba0

(21430)

on May 01, 2011
at 01:11 AM

Personally, I don't eat bakers chocolate, filter all my water, and don't eat processed fish.

246ebf68e35743f62e5e187891b9cba0

(21430)

on May 01, 2011
at 03:06 PM

Canned tuna might be ok, I wouldn't lose a lot of sleep over it if it is not a regular staple of your diet. Water can be filtered (Camelbak and others make a charcoal filtered waterbottle, I carry one with me), and baker's chocolate should be fine in moderation.

Ed71ab1c75c6a9bd217a599db0a3e117

(25472)

on May 01, 2011
at 12:45 AM

Totally agree....

246ebf68e35743f62e5e187891b9cba0

(21430)

on May 02, 2011
at 12:34 AM

People with leaky gut should stay away from all lecitins in my experience... even egg whites have set them off. I fortunately don't have a problem w/eggs but foods with Soy lecitin do aggravate my gut quite a bit.

77877f762c40637911396daa19b53094

(78467)

on May 01, 2011
at 02:15 AM

don't get so 'personal'l I was just looking for feedback on these issues. Arsenic: I will be living in the area on farmland and have heard it contains arsenic; canned tuna: I have a ready supply; baker's choc: likewise

84666a86108dee8d11cbbc85b6382083

(2399)

on May 15, 2011
at 02:02 PM

"processed" is a slippery turf.

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2a8267ad9ef6f4371f9346c4f2ca08d0

on May 01, 2011
at 01:25 AM

What should I substitute my whey protein shakes with?

77877f762c40637911396daa19b53094

(78467)

on May 01, 2011
at 02:16 AM

I've heard (from a chemist) that you can boil buttermilk for whey and it has the same bioavailable protein as store-bought minus the negatives. But...he didn't appear too healthy himself so...who's to be believed?

Ed71ab1c75c6a9bd217a599db0a3e117

(25472)

on May 01, 2011
at 12:41 PM

If you boil it it to ally denatured the proteins. Whey pure has to be cold processed. Master john had a post on his FB page about 6 months ago on this. I bet you could source it from his WAPF page

246ebf68e35743f62e5e187891b9cba0

(21430)

on May 01, 2011
at 01:19 PM

Whole food maybe?

1da74185531d6d4c7182fb9ee417f97f

(10904)

on June 12, 2011
at 05:01 AM

Coconut milk, a raw pastured egg with an extra yolk if you're feeling saucy, and a half to a full packet of Acai puree is my go-to shake. I try to eat something solid most of the time, though because my brain doesn't seem to tell me I'm full unless I'm eating something I have to chew.

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