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High triglycerides and cholesterol?

Answered on September 12, 2014
Created December 30, 2011 at 10:18 PM

I'm on Paleo for over 3 months now, and my triglycerides are at 175, while cholesterol is at 205. I eat all kinds of meat/fish, eggs/bacon for breakfast, offal occasionally, allowed veggies, some nuts & local raw honey, I cook with coconut oil, olive oil in salads, and I also have some goat-only lactose-free cheese/yoghurt occasionally. Also a piece of fruit daily. So how come my numbers are so high?

Update: It occurred to me that these numbers are probably actually going down as I get healthier, not up. They're still high just because I'm not on 100% health yet (I spent 10 years with IBS/malabsorbtion/fatty-liver).

UPDATE, 20th June 2012: New blood test:

  • Cholesterol 222

  • Trigly 287

  • HDL 46

  • LDL 119

And that's after 9 months of Paleo, 2 of them in the ketogenic state. What's going on? Why are my triglycerides so high? Please note that I fasted 6 hours before that test (I didn't eat more than 5 gr of net carbs btw).

5e92edc5a180787a60a252a8232006e9

(345)

on June 29, 2012
at 02:38 AM

I'm not sure exactly how that will be affected. But I think as long as you had protein, your trigs could still be elevated.

3eca93d2e56dfcd768197dc5a50944f2

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on June 21, 2012
at 03:19 AM

While this is indeed a better fasting time, I really don't expect the triglycerides to go down to 50 from 300 in just 4-6 hours. Do you think you can see such a dramatic change in 4-6 hours? Consider that I didn't eat lots of carbs before the fasting either (5 gr, net).

E5c7f14800c5992831f5c70fa746dc5c

(12857)

on January 06, 2012
at 01:24 PM

The test don't really tell much. Maybe if you have a really low tsh like .1 or less.

3eca93d2e56dfcd768197dc5a50944f2

(11697)

on January 03, 2012
at 09:41 PM

I eat on average half a tablespoon of honey a day btw.

3eca93d2e56dfcd768197dc5a50944f2

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on January 03, 2012
at 09:40 PM

I checked some basic thyroid elements a few weeks ago (no T3 or rT3 test though, my doctor wouldn't order them), and they came back ok.

3eca93d2e56dfcd768197dc5a50944f2

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on January 03, 2012
at 09:39 PM

I need that kind of honey for my IBS. So even if that's the culprit (which I don't believe so), I still can't cut it down. It's sort of a medicine for me. As for dairy, I only eat goat lactose-free dairy, so the casein/lactose problem does not apply either.

E5c7f14800c5992831f5c70fa746dc5c

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on January 03, 2012
at 02:09 PM

fish oils a band aid fix that makes things worse

3c6b4eed18dc57f746755b698426e7c8

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on December 31, 2011
at 08:50 PM

I'd also get rid of raw honey and nuts. Also agree with fish oil, dry red wine (if no liver issue), coconut oil (if not sensitive), avocados and exercising w/cardio or interval training.

3c6b4eed18dc57f746755b698426e7c8

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on December 31, 2011
at 10:16 AM

When ur starting from a base of 165, losing 15 lbs. is significant. It's not the absolute number but the % of "losable weight" you've shed. Let's say your ideal weight is 135; you're half way there. That would be equivalent to a metabolically deranged person weighing 300 lbs. losing 85 lbs: 300 to 215. The absolute # is misleading.

3eca93d2e56dfcd768197dc5a50944f2

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on December 31, 2011
at 03:01 AM

I'm still obese btw, the malnutrition part is because of leaky gut and malabsorbtion, not because I was not eating.

3eca93d2e56dfcd768197dc5a50944f2

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on December 31, 2011
at 02:44 AM

I've lost only 15 lbs on Paleo. From 165 lbs to 150 lbs. I also have/had a fatty liver and IBS/malnutrition before Paleo.

072fd69647b0e765bb4b11532569f16d

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on December 31, 2011
at 02:29 AM

I don't encourage "chronic cardio," but many that I've seen with lower tri's get their hearts pumping regularly.

7c2afddaa11ff8861120e4f6f5e606db

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on December 30, 2011
at 11:31 PM

Just curious eugenia, but how much weight have you lost since going paleo 3 mnths ago?

7c2afddaa11ff8861120e4f6f5e606db

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on December 30, 2011
at 11:30 PM

Just Eugenia, how much weight have you lost since going paleo 3 mnths ago?

Cf32992bfa1907147c7cdc451bba9c63

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on December 30, 2011
at 10:46 PM

Diet is important, so is body fat %

Cf32992bfa1907147c7cdc451bba9c63

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on December 30, 2011
at 10:45 PM

How much do you weigh?

3c6b4eed18dc57f746755b698426e7c8

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on December 30, 2011
at 10:35 PM

Probably not enough time for Trigs to go down. For some people, Trigs may not really go down if you aren't doing LC Paleo. For most, they track your insulin. From SAD => LC Paleo: big decline. From SAD ==> HC Paleo: slower decline and you may stall @~100. Also, prior fatty liver or derangement could slow Trig decline.

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Da3d4a6835c0f5256b2ef829b3ba3393

on December 30, 2011
at 11:10 PM

I don't know too terribly much about anything, so don't take me as anyone with any real knowledge...... but, I found that zero fruit intake plus ample fish oils really moved my triglycerides down dramatically. Oh, and I also started exercising very, very intensely, but I wouldn't recommend that unless your body can handle it. (I started running 400 meter sprints at 100% effort, which is an absolute killer!)

I saw pretty big changes in something like 4-6 weeks.

072fd69647b0e765bb4b11532569f16d

(3717)

on December 31, 2011
at 02:29 AM

I don't encourage "chronic cardio," but many that I've seen with lower tri's get their hearts pumping regularly.

E5c7f14800c5992831f5c70fa746dc5c

(12857)

on January 03, 2012
at 02:09 PM

fish oils a band aid fix that makes things worse

3c6b4eed18dc57f746755b698426e7c8

(5147)

on December 31, 2011
at 08:50 PM

I'd also get rid of raw honey and nuts. Also agree with fish oil, dry red wine (if no liver issue), coconut oil (if not sensitive), avocados and exercising w/cardio or interval training.

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E5c7f14800c5992831f5c70fa746dc5c

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on January 03, 2012
at 02:10 PM

Whats your waking temp? after eating??

Sounds like a hypothyroid problem imo.

E5c7f14800c5992831f5c70fa746dc5c

(12857)

on January 06, 2012
at 01:24 PM

The test don't really tell much. Maybe if you have a really low tsh like .1 or less.

3eca93d2e56dfcd768197dc5a50944f2

(11697)

on January 03, 2012
at 09:40 PM

I checked some basic thyroid elements a few weeks ago (no T3 or rT3 test though, my doctor wouldn't order them), and they came back ok.

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5e92edc5a180787a60a252a8232006e9

(345)

on June 21, 2012
at 02:26 AM

10-12 hours of fasting, not 6 hours.

3eca93d2e56dfcd768197dc5a50944f2

(11697)

on June 21, 2012
at 03:19 AM

While this is indeed a better fasting time, I really don't expect the triglycerides to go down to 50 from 300 in just 4-6 hours. Do you think you can see such a dramatic change in 4-6 hours? Consider that I didn't eat lots of carbs before the fasting either (5 gr, net).

5e92edc5a180787a60a252a8232006e9

(345)

on June 29, 2012
at 02:38 AM

I'm not sure exactly how that will be affected. But I think as long as you had protein, your trigs could still be elevated.

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9de28a80b0dea81e50495aa5bf28184b

(180)

on January 03, 2012
at 12:37 PM

Hi, Eugenia.

I've faced the same high TG myself (http://paleohacks.com/questions/83913/high-ldl-tryglicerides-and-uric-acid).

I think one reason could be this "local raw honey". I sometimes, for breakfast, had full fat greek yogurt with raw honey. I'm right now avoiding honey to test if my TG go down.

Also, the dairy could be a problem.

How much honey do you eat?

3eca93d2e56dfcd768197dc5a50944f2

(11697)

on January 03, 2012
at 09:41 PM

I eat on average half a tablespoon of honey a day btw.

3eca93d2e56dfcd768197dc5a50944f2

(11697)

on January 03, 2012
at 09:39 PM

I need that kind of honey for my IBS. So even if that's the culprit (which I don't believe so), I still can't cut it down. It's sort of a medicine for me. As for dairy, I only eat goat lactose-free dairy, so the casein/lactose problem does not apply either.

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