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Help me hack my mother's blood work results, her doc is on a mission to get her back on statins

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Created July 28, 2012 at 4:02 AM

My mother had been taking statins for years and was Type 2 diabetic. She was having extreme muscle pains that made lifting hurt terribly. She runs a daycare so not lifting children up is a major occupational problem. I'm still working on getting her to eat better, I have more work to do there.

But I convinced her to stop her statins and the muscle pains went away. And her mental forgetfulness has gotten better. However her family practice doc is livid that she stopped the statins, told her the pains were just part of getting old anyway. He seems to have made her a personal project to convince her to restart statins, the doc brought has scheduled and rescheduled her to return and get bloodwork done hoping the results will convince her to restart the statins.

Funny thing happened there, her tests now show she is no longer a type II diabetic and doesn't need her insulin. The doc doesn't believe it has to do with her diet change.

Anyway, here is her most recent bloodwork results:

Hemoglobin A1C Rapid: 6.0

Cholesterol: 204 (mg/dl) Tri: 116 (mg/dl) HDL: 45 (mg/dl) Chol/HDL ratio: 4.5 LDL calculated: 136 (mg/dl) Length of fast: 12.0

Aspartate Aminotransferase: 21 (U/L)

Sodium: 140 Potassium: 3.5 Choloride: 104 Bicarbonate: 27

Creatinine Serum: 0.9

What can I tell my mom about these results to help particularly with the cholesterol results?

782d92f4127823bdfb2ddfcbcf961d0e

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on July 28, 2012
at 08:58 PM

I think it depends on the severity and length time of symptoms. If your mother's pain resolved after stopping her statin then she probably is ok. Still, if the pain was due to rhabdomyolysis then she shouldn't be on statins and shame on her doctor for not considering that possibility.

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on July 28, 2012
at 07:42 PM

So hard. Yes I hope she stays on the CoQ given her use of statins and, I agree, for her general health (then again I think everyone living in the toxic world needs to be on it. I have my 3 kids, in their 20s on it too!). Its important that if she is taking regular CoQ10 that she take it with a meal that contains fat. It works best that way. Ubiquinol is better according to some studies but I was on Coq taken with meals and it worked wonders for me too. So glad she has you!!

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on July 28, 2012
at 07:40 PM

Is that kind of damage permanent?

D7cc4049bef85d1979efbd853dc07c8e

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on July 28, 2012
at 07:37 PM

I convinced her to get on CoQ 10 recently. She noticed changes very quickly. I hope she still takes the stuff even though she's off the statin now, I had read that a body's production of it drops off with age anyway. Right now I'm looking for doctors in the Twin Cities she could consider because this guy, while very nice, is on a mission to save her with statins.

D7cc4049bef85d1979efbd853dc07c8e

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on July 28, 2012
at 12:00 PM

Working on that too!

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on July 28, 2012
at 05:13 AM

yes, find a new doctor!

D7cc4049bef85d1979efbd853dc07c8e

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on July 28, 2012
at 04:43 AM

I'm far from a guru on the matter, but I thought these looked okay too. Her doc is convinced he's alive because he's on statins and believes my mother needs to be also for her own sake with these results. I told my mom they are fine results but would get some back up in my interpretation if it would help her deal with her doc.

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4ef079c57d2140bba4dbf4e30240a645

on July 28, 2012
at 06:24 PM

Any doctor who would keep a patient on a statin who is having serious muscle pain is a not a good doctor.

Please get her on Ubiquinol (bio-available CoQ10) immediately since statins are known to deplete CoQ. Diet alone will not be enough, she will need a supplement, IMO.

400mg twice a day for a while then 200mg twice a day.

Also, her A1C is still higher than it should be for optimal health. Continued dietary changes will improve this even more.

4ef079c57d2140bba4dbf4e30240a645

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on July 28, 2012
at 07:42 PM

So hard. Yes I hope she stays on the CoQ given her use of statins and, I agree, for her general health (then again I think everyone living in the toxic world needs to be on it. I have my 3 kids, in their 20s on it too!). Its important that if she is taking regular CoQ10 that she take it with a meal that contains fat. It works best that way. Ubiquinol is better according to some studies but I was on Coq taken with meals and it worked wonders for me too. So glad she has you!!

D7cc4049bef85d1979efbd853dc07c8e

(4029)

on July 28, 2012
at 07:37 PM

I convinced her to get on CoQ 10 recently. She noticed changes very quickly. I hope she still takes the stuff even though she's off the statin now, I had read that a body's production of it drops off with age anyway. Right now I'm looking for doctors in the Twin Cities she could consider because this guy, while very nice, is on a mission to save her with statins.

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on July 28, 2012
at 05:05 AM

Find a new doctor, or at least a second opinion.

2c1c183776cf013fe09976fbfc5eaa3d

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on July 28, 2012
at 05:13 AM

yes, find a new doctor!

D7cc4049bef85d1979efbd853dc07c8e

(4029)

on July 28, 2012
at 12:00 PM

Working on that too!

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782d92f4127823bdfb2ddfcbcf961d0e

on July 28, 2012
at 06:19 PM

Muscle pain caused by rhabdomyolysis is a potentially serious side effect from statin use. It can lead to kidney failure. Your mother should be evaluated for this and in the meantime stay off the statins. I'd also encourage her to find a different doctor.

782d92f4127823bdfb2ddfcbcf961d0e

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on July 28, 2012
at 08:58 PM

I think it depends on the severity and length time of symptoms. If your mother's pain resolved after stopping her statin then she probably is ok. Still, if the pain was due to rhabdomyolysis then she shouldn't be on statins and shame on her doctor for not considering that possibility.

D7cc4049bef85d1979efbd853dc07c8e

(4029)

on July 28, 2012
at 07:40 PM

Is that kind of damage permanent?

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on July 28, 2012
at 08:56 PM

Along with all the other comments, don't forget to document your experience w/before and after lab results and the doctor's insistence via phone calls or emails that statins are necessary. Send a detailed letter to his/her supervisor, the accounting office, and anyone else who you can think of...This isn't just about health care it is about a system that creates costs AND prevents healing.

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on July 28, 2012
at 04:34 AM

Her lipids are decent. HDL could be higher and Trigs could be lower, but there's really not much to worry about there. Total cholesterol and mortality tend to have a somewhat weak U-curve relationship, with highest mortality at very low levels, and elevated mortality at levels above 250 or so. But as we know, there's much more to a lipid profile than just total cholesterol. Although that test wasn't a "good" test like LipoProfile, we still have enough information to believe that she's doing all right.

D7cc4049bef85d1979efbd853dc07c8e

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on July 28, 2012
at 04:43 AM

I'm far from a guru on the matter, but I thought these looked okay too. Her doc is convinced he's alive because he's on statins and believes my mother needs to be also for her own sake with these results. I told my mom they are fine results but would get some back up in my interpretation if it would help her deal with her doc.

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