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Hack my Cholesterol results :/

Answered on August 19, 2014
Created January 24, 2012 at 7:46 AM

Hi, I'm 16 years old and just got my fasting LIPID STUDIES ( LIP-0 ) Test back

Im worried-ish and am not sure what to do.

( Sorry I don't know what they are in American measurements)

  • Chol (3.5-5.4) - 6.8 ( D: )
  • Trig ( 0.1-2.0 ) - 0.5
  • HDL ( >1.0) - 2.6
  • Chol/HDL ( < 4.5 ) - 2.6
  • VLD (0.1-0.9) - 0.2
  • LDL (2.1-4.0 ) - 4.0 ( D: )

Straight away my doctor recommended I go on a " high protein moderate carb low fat diet" without me mentioning my diet, he told me to stay away from animal fat ( I do admit though through the holiday season i didnt care what omega 6 infested fatty meat my relatives were serving me, i love fat to much to say no!) and I did eat quite a bit of nuts and seeds.

My plan is to take psyllium husks about 3 times a day, keep going with my omega three supplement ( 3 capsules a day) Stop eating butter ( heard that raises LDL) and stop eating all animal fats, nuts and to focus on high fibrous vegetables and fruits

but i honestly don't have a clue what i'm doing really :/

Thanks in advance!

6b8d12fc3e43179f9ae1765a4d1a9dc2

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on January 25, 2012
at 01:09 AM

yes, high HDL is good. And carbs raise LDL (which is bad) http://www.trackyourplaque.com/blog/2012/01/low-carb-is-heart-healthy.html

5cd7ceb59b7a47a6a7818dbf05ebe585

(35)

on January 24, 2012
at 09:01 PM

Hahah aw you caught me! Yes I eat quite alot of coconut cream/milk and oil <- ( occasionally ), being lactose intolerant I tend to leach onto it :P

5cd7ceb59b7a47a6a7818dbf05ebe585

(35)

on January 24, 2012
at 08:59 PM

Incredibly high HDL = good thing? :S Not usually, back on S.A.D I had some kind of sugar addiction and I find, until recently that sweet foods get me going.

5cd7ceb59b7a47a6a7818dbf05ebe585

(35)

on January 24, 2012
at 08:56 PM

Oh thats good then! Before on the S.A.D I had a "lower than range L.D.L" I used to get quite sick often. Ugh I can't even trust doctor's advice anymore! ><. Thats good to hear that I can still eat animal fat and macadamia nuts! I love fat wayy to much to drop them :)) Thank-you very much for your advice, I was thinking about it all night! What a great start to my day :) I'll visit gutsence.com

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on January 24, 2012
at 07:25 PM

I don't use fat to cook; I just bake all of the meat I eat in a pyrex dish in the oven at 350 degrees for a little over 20 minutes. The meat comes out a perfect moist, medium-rare. I find it to be far more delicious and it has less likelihood of oxidized PUFAs (the small amount in the meat) or cholesterol. Give it a try.

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on January 24, 2012
at 05:37 PM

Roberto - http://paleohacks.com/questions/36855/i-think-i-may-have-figured-out-why-some-of-us-have-really-high-ldl

22fd82abf435768244f8d074430cd1e6

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on January 24, 2012
at 05:00 PM

Travis, do you have any link/resource to the relationship between LDL and butter? Also what fat do you use to cook? I think coconut oil gives me some bad intestinal reaction (read go to the bathroom).

22fd82abf435768244f8d074430cd1e6

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on January 24, 2012
at 04:57 PM

does fruit raise LDL?

B8592e62f9804ddabae73c1103d6bcb9

(1956)

on January 24, 2012
at 02:38 PM

Read gutsense.com for why fibre, especially psyllium husks are BAD!

44348571d9bc70c02ac2975cc500f154

(5853)

on January 24, 2012
at 01:11 PM

And read Paul Jaminets blog, great source of information.

44348571d9bc70c02ac2975cc500f154

(5853)

on January 24, 2012
at 12:39 PM

I would eat more whole coconuts than other nuts. Coconut is the good fat. And i would drop dairy fat and eat more tallow, bone marrow and wild fish. Get alot of excersice, use turmenic and make sure you are well nourished. Do you get zinc, selenium, copper and iodine in proper balance from your diet?

5cd7ceb59b7a47a6a7818dbf05ebe585

(35)

on January 24, 2012
at 09:26 AM

so if you think I cut out nuts, ( although i eat alot of macadamias) and cut out butter and animal fat = healthier cholesterol?

5cd7ceb59b7a47a6a7818dbf05ebe585

(35)

on January 24, 2012
at 07:52 AM

I should add that before I started paleo, * August last year* My Cholesterol results were - Fasting Chol - 4.1 Trig- 0.5 HDL - 2.2 Chol/Hdl - 1.9 VLDL- 0.2 LDL - 1.7 <-- Low ( 2.1-4.0)

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on January 24, 2012
at 04:13 PM

Don't eat psyllium husks.

Don't take fish oil.

Don't remove all fat from your diet.

Simply cut out all butter, cream and any trans fats that may be in your diet and focus instead on fats to which we have adapted to eat (those attached to red meat).

22fd82abf435768244f8d074430cd1e6

(590)

on January 24, 2012
at 05:00 PM

Travis, do you have any link/resource to the relationship between LDL and butter? Also what fat do you use to cook? I think coconut oil gives me some bad intestinal reaction (read go to the bathroom).

Af1d286f0fd5c3949f59b4edf4d892f5

(18472)

on January 24, 2012
at 05:37 PM

Roberto - http://paleohacks.com/questions/36855/i-think-i-may-have-figured-out-why-some-of-us-have-really-high-ldl

Medium avatar

(39821)

on January 24, 2012
at 07:25 PM

I don't use fat to cook; I just bake all of the meat I eat in a pyrex dish in the oven at 350 degrees for a little over 20 minutes. The meat comes out a perfect moist, medium-rare. I find it to be far more delicious and it has less likelihood of oxidized PUFAs (the small amount in the meat) or cholesterol. Give it a try.

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B8592e62f9804ddabae73c1103d6bcb9

(1956)

on January 24, 2012
at 02:48 PM

Your HDL is very high, this is very good. Saturated fats raise HDL, so not not fear animal fats.

Your total cholesterol is fine, the range was set specifically to make most people have 'high' cholesterol so they can prescribe more statins. If you're female, a higher total cholesterol is better. Under 200mg/dL (5mmol/L) is actually dangerous as it highly increases your risk of infections, cancer and much more.

Do not worry about your LDL, as it is used to make sex hormones and helps the immune system. Low LDL is actually bad for you. What's important is the size, which can be measured directly with a VAP test or estimated via triglycerides. Your low triglycerides means your LDL is most likely large and fluffy which is good.

I would suggest backing off the nuts, except macadamia nuts which are very mono-unsaturated and have very little omega-6. Get your fats from beef or lamb rather than pork or chicken as this will also minimise omega-6. The fish oil or eating oily fish will also help. Less dairy fats, such as butter, may lower your LDL but I would say your LDL is fine.

Overall I would say your cholesterol is great! Don't listen to your doctor's scaremongering. Animal fats from the meat, from beef or lamb, will not be effecting your LDL in the way that butter can do; animal fats are incredibly healthy for you, don't stop eating them.

Also visit gutsense.com for why fibre, especially grain fibres like psyllium husks are bad for you.

5cd7ceb59b7a47a6a7818dbf05ebe585

(35)

on January 24, 2012
at 08:56 PM

Oh thats good then! Before on the S.A.D I had a "lower than range L.D.L" I used to get quite sick often. Ugh I can't even trust doctor's advice anymore! ><. Thats good to hear that I can still eat animal fat and macadamia nuts! I love fat wayy to much to drop them :)) Thank-you very much for your advice, I was thinking about it all night! What a great start to my day :) I'll visit gutsence.com

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20cc903ebccaeb1e652da3a596e8dfb4

(1038)

on January 24, 2012
at 03:25 PM

Your numbers are fine. Especially if you're female. Don't avoid animal fats. make sure, however, that you are getting enough dietary copper and choline. Liver and egg yolks are your friends. Avoiding animal fat is not the answer.

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B4e1fa6a8cf43d2b69d97a99dfca262c

(10255)

on January 24, 2012
at 02:52 PM

we all need fat in our diet. i think your doctor is giving questionable advice to a 16 year old.

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6b8d12fc3e43179f9ae1765a4d1a9dc2

(5914)

on January 24, 2012
at 11:05 AM

Chol 265

Trig 45

HDL 100

Chol/HDL 2.6

VLD 10

LDL 155

I dont think that they are too bad. Your HDL is incredibly high. Your HDL is over 2 times your Trigs. LDL is a little high. Do you eat a lot of fruit? I probably wouldnt be too concerned.

22fd82abf435768244f8d074430cd1e6

(590)

on January 24, 2012
at 04:57 PM

does fruit raise LDL?

6b8d12fc3e43179f9ae1765a4d1a9dc2

(5914)

on January 25, 2012
at 01:09 AM

yes, high HDL is good. And carbs raise LDL (which is bad) http://www.trackyourplaque.com/blog/2012/01/low-carb-is-heart-healthy.html

5cd7ceb59b7a47a6a7818dbf05ebe585

(35)

on January 24, 2012
at 08:59 PM

Incredibly high HDL = good thing? :S Not usually, back on S.A.D I had some kind of sugar addiction and I find, until recently that sweet foods get me going.

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Af3e3615beba642bcafd0f21d64d74f7

on January 24, 2012
at 08:36 AM

Lots of nuts are high in OMEGA 6's. (Raw Macadamia nuts are high in Omega 3's) This could be your ldl issue along with too much butter. And if your meat is not grass fed/finished.

44348571d9bc70c02ac2975cc500f154

(5853)

on January 24, 2012
at 01:11 PM

And read Paul Jaminets blog, great source of information.

5cd7ceb59b7a47a6a7818dbf05ebe585

(35)

on January 24, 2012
at 09:26 AM

so if you think I cut out nuts, ( although i eat alot of macadamias) and cut out butter and animal fat = healthier cholesterol?

44348571d9bc70c02ac2975cc500f154

(5853)

on January 24, 2012
at 12:39 PM

I would eat more whole coconuts than other nuts. Coconut is the good fat. And i would drop dairy fat and eat more tallow, bone marrow and wild fish. Get alot of excersice, use turmenic and make sure you are well nourished. Do you get zinc, selenium, copper and iodine in proper balance from your diet?

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34cf7065a6c94062c711eb16c0f6adc3

on January 24, 2012
at 02:38 PM

Was the LDL calculated using Friedmann's equation or was it calculated the more appropriate Iranian formula, considering your trigs are below 100. It probably would be a lot lower than what is mentioned.

Do you need to lower your cholesterol for insurance purposes, then you would do well to stop the saturated fat you are eating, a couple of weeks before the test.

The high HDL shows that you must be eating a lot of coconut oil :-).

The only sure shot way to reduce cholesterol is to get a worm infestation :-).

I don't see any real problem though.

5cd7ceb59b7a47a6a7818dbf05ebe585

(35)

on January 24, 2012
at 09:01 PM

Hahah aw you caught me! Yes I eat quite alot of coconut cream/milk and oil <- ( occasionally ), being lactose intolerant I tend to leach onto it :P

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