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Caffeine and its relationship to Cholesterol

Answered on August 19, 2014
Created March 16, 2011 at 4:27 PM

Hi all I would like to know if caffeine should be included in the diet(say in the form of cocoa) for those interested in the low/no carb all-natural(or as natural as possible/practical) lifestyle. I have read that it raises insulin levels and that it plays a role in raising cholesterol levels as well. Is this true? Would anyone care to comment?

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on September 07, 2013
at 01:28 AM

@ Jack, I've recently begun alternating coffee with either Tulsi tea, or green tea so that I don't drink coffee on consecutive days, and I also stopped getting it on the weekends. I have seemed to notice some subtle positive changes.

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on March 17, 2011
at 03:08 PM

I believe - though I haven't looked it up in awhile - that Dr. Bernstein of diabetes fame says coffee doesn't raise blood sugar, but that Kurt Harris says it does. Don't quote me on that in case I'm remembering wrong!

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on March 17, 2011
at 02:24 PM

They talk about it in protein power. http://www.amazon.com/Protein-Power-High-Protein-Low-Carbohydrate-Health/dp/0553380788/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1300371813&sr=8-1-spell Don't have the book on me so I don't know if they reference something else.

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on March 16, 2011
at 10:00 PM

Can you include a link to where you read about coffee raising insulin?

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on March 16, 2011
at 06:56 PM

Absolutely, I'm coming over with my cup!

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on March 16, 2011
at 05:13 PM

Vince Gironda(an old school bodybuilder) was always going on about adrenal fatigue and the causal relationship between weight-lifting adn adrenal fatigue, etc. I have heard that the adrenals will grow and thus enable greater secretion of adrenal hormones to accomodate the stresses induced in the body by various stimuli(eg. weights). Perhaps caffeine will simply improve adrenal function?

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on March 16, 2011
at 04:40 PM

Thanks Dana, you've given me some relief(I hope its not specious reasoning on the part of a caffeine addict though!). What relationship is there between caffeine and adrenaline: hypersecretion/adrenal exhaustion perhaps? I'd like your insights on this matter

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Ed71ab1c75c6a9bd217a599db0a3e117

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on March 17, 2011
at 04:02 AM

it raises insulin and cortisol....anything that dose those two things are not good long term for body human.

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on March 16, 2011
at 05:27 PM

I feel no bad effects from drinking caffeinated coffee, only positive.

Research is conflicting on both the negative and positive effects of the stuff.

Because arguments against coffee are opaque, theoretical, and nonconclusive, I intend to give it no further thought and make another pot.

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on March 16, 2011
at 06:56 PM

Absolutely, I'm coming over with my cup!

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on July 13, 2011
at 04:19 PM

When i Finished school, I stopped drinking all forms of caffeine, (I never drank coffee) but energy drinks, caffeine pills etc.

It was the most beneficial move I made for my heath IMO. If I had to pick the change I noticed from quitting caffeine and the change I noticed from going paleo, quitting caffeine would win.

My sleep improved my energy levels improved, I honestly do not understand people that want to have their body depend on something to bring themselves to a normal level of function. (The level that you should be functioning at without caffeine)

There are things that one requires in life,

Food Water Sleep Shelter

Caffeine does not make that list.

Its addictive, and when I tell people they should try quitting coffee I get the same response that I get when I tell someone I want them to stop eating bread.

But I NEED it.

If your addicted, solve the problem. When you are clear headed you can make an informed decision on the matter if you were truly better with it.

Not to mention in the army I function better and longer without sleep (I've gone 72 hours straight without the use of caffeine while others around me were dropping like flies and falling asleep standing up taking huge amount of pills and coffee)

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on July 13, 2011
at 04:01 PM

I can't believe I am going to answer a PersonMan post, and I upvoted this too!! lol

I was thinking of asking the same question. Instead, I will honor his OCD tweaking, which now may be relevant to me.

I am basically 'bumping' this thread given the new information in my VAP results. One of the things I failed to mention (just because I did not think about it really) is that I do get some caffeine from coffee.

Should I go cold turkey on all caffeine?

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on September 07, 2013
at 01:28 AM

@ Jack, I've recently begun alternating coffee with either Tulsi tea, or green tea so that I don't drink coffee on consecutive days, and I also stopped getting it on the weekends. I have seemed to notice some subtle positive changes.

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on March 16, 2011
at 11:32 PM

The studies i know of were done with Caffeine & Carb ingestion (& Insulin response). I do not know of any studies completed on Caffeine alone (without carbs) & Insulin response.

studies:

a) Petrie HJ, Chown SE, Belfie LM, Duncan AM, McLaren DH, Conquer JA, Graham TE. Caffeine ingestion increases the insulin response to an oral-glucose-tolerance test in obese men before and after weight loss. Am J Clin Nutr. 2004 Jul;80(1):22-8.

b) Graham TE, Sathasivam P, Rowland M, Marko N, Greer F, Battram D. Caffeine ingestion elevates plasma insulin response in humans during an oral glucose tolerance test. Can J Physiol Pharmacol. 2001 Jul;79(7):559-65.

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on March 16, 2011
at 04:42 PM

Or detrimental to its effect on adrenals...Don't mean to argue but here are the fact--yes, caffeine does stimulate the adrenals. The question is whether that is healthy or not. We know that caffeine contributes to adrenal fatigue long-term.

77877f762c40637911396daa19b53094

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on March 16, 2011
at 05:13 PM

Vince Gironda(an old school bodybuilder) was always going on about adrenal fatigue and the causal relationship between weight-lifting adn adrenal fatigue, etc. I have heard that the adrenals will grow and thus enable greater secretion of adrenal hormones to accomodate the stresses induced in the body by various stimuli(eg. weights). Perhaps caffeine will simply improve adrenal function?

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on March 16, 2011
at 04:34 PM

I'm not worried about cholesterol. I like the idea of having higher HDL and fewer VLDL but aside from that I think it's a non-issue.

Any time you smell food you get an insulin release. You can see what the logical extension of that is. The interesting bit about insulin release as pertains to health is when you're eating so much carbohydrate that it's left constantly elevated. Ups and downs are normal and the body adapts to them.

Caffeine might be more important for its effect on the adrenals than on either of those.

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on March 16, 2011
at 04:40 PM

Thanks Dana, you've given me some relief(I hope its not specious reasoning on the part of a caffeine addict though!). What relationship is there between caffeine and adrenaline: hypersecretion/adrenal exhaustion perhaps? I'd like your insights on this matter

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