Husband's levels are total 252, HDL 52 and LDL 183. Triglycerides are fine and CRP was excellent. LDL was up from a year ago and HDL down slightly. After some of the reading I've done, I'm not overly concerned, but it had been under control for awhile until going on testosterone supplement for low T and symptoms of low T. Without going into a lot of detail for awhile I felt like my guy was a skeleton of who he had been because he'd slipped very severely over a 2 year period. While initially it seemed like the testosterone helped a number of issues, over time it seems like it maybe causing some and in the long run, the initial boost from the T seems like it has fallen by the wayside. I've read evidence that rolling with the slightly higher cholesterol numbers is okay as long as some of the other markers like CRP are good. RBCs have also gone slightly high.
We use coconut oil and butter almost exclusively. Eat fish, chicken, beef, lamb, eggs and some wild game when we can. We eat fresh and cooked veggies and some fruit, organic when possible. He does gluten free and not too many grains really. Prefers the nut beverages to milk but does eat some Greek yogurt. His weight has decreased and exercise levels increased. He kayaks, bikes, does airsoft with our boys, goes on a long brisk walk with the dog every evening. He's not an inactive guy.
Should we worry about the numbers? The supplemental T seems to be a driving force in elevating them. Any suggestions as far as stopping the supplement and getting back on a "real" hormonal track in one's 50s?
asked byCJ_4 (715)
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on October 25, 2013
at 09:55 PM
Seems to me that if you are putting testosterone in your body then you have played with the chemical interactions in your body and your Cholesterol numbers are not for real. First line of defense for me is to attack everything with diet and exercise.
on October 25, 2013
at 08:58 PM
All you need to do is google "overall mortality versus cholesterol". You will quickly find several papers, or references to published papers, showing that 252 is not bad, and better than 152. Your husband might have some unhealthy habits, but I can't tell from this number.
on October 25, 2013
at 08:50 PM
I am not an expert. The following is my subjective opinion and I may be completely wrong.
It's hard to say without a more comprehensive test. The standard cholesterol tests administered by labs/doctors is insufficient to accurately determine what your husband's numbers indicate. What is his triglyceride level? It has been asserted that a triglyceride to HDL ratio of less than two is ideal. Most insurance companies will not pay for the more comprehensive tests to determine a person's real risks. (I am referring to the tests that measure small dense or large fluffy LDL particles - small dense bad, large fluffy good. I do not recall the names but, I think there are at least two other more comprehensive tests not covered by most insurance companies).
Continue to research this topic, but I strongly recommend you read The Great Cholesterol Myth by Bowden and Sinatra.
I am not a doctor, but I strongly recommend against following the advice of any classically trained physician as it relates to cholesterol without doing your own homework. Ask your doctor how much education/training he or she has had in relation to nutrition and in relation to nutrition of the paleo/primal lifestyle. Most responses I have received = a one semester class on nutrition with the subject matter consistent with conventional wisdom, i.e. the Standard American Diet. Medical doctors are trained to diagnose and treat illness/injury. I don't think they know anymore than most people about paleo/primal nutrition.
As every thing relates to the Testosterone issue: I dunno!?!
My total cholesterol is over 400, but my triglycerides are about 100 and my HDL is around 70. Nevertheless, my doctor freaked out and wanted to put me on statins. His ego took a hit when I implied he didn't know what he was talking about. I could be dillusional, but I am 6' 2", 180lbs; down from 230 before I went Primal/Paleo. I am a strong, fit, and virile 49 year old. I'm not taking any drugs, and I am not worried.