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Cholesterol - Anyone going to fall for this nonsense?

Answered on November 14, 2013
Created November 12, 2013 at 11:38 PM

This bit of news is hitting today, anyone going to buy into this money grab by big pharma and the bought and paid for docs?

Obviously I'm for eating a proper diet to combat heart problems, past, present and future.

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on November 13, 2013
at 04:37 PM

Its not that LDL isn't effective as an indicator, but rather that the new guideline includes risk factors for ischemia type strokes as well. Elevated LDL is still considered one of the best indicators for heart attack risk.

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on November 13, 2013
at 07:09 AM

My dad sent me this one yesterday. I stopped reading at "whole grains", "fat-free", and "low-fat dairy".

"Across all the supplements studied, there was no evidence of beneficial effects on cardiovascular disease" -- did they not study mg?

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on November 13, 2013
at 12:11 AM

On the upside, protocol will not target ldl levels, but on the downside about twice as many people may be targeted for statins as are currently on them.

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on November 12, 2013
at 11:54 PM

OH, yes, let's find a reason to prescribe more medicine and make more money. Money. Money. Money.

I wish my partner and I could convince millions of people that their health is at risk if they don't buy our fantasy books. We'd make a trillion!

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on November 14, 2013
at 01:56 AM

I think the de-emphasis on LDL-C is because the handwriting is finally on the wall that LDL-C is NOT a good predictor of cardiovascular disease, but inflammation is. So they are looking for other ways to bump up statin use AND, when the sh*t hits the fan about LDL-C, they can claim it was never really about lowering LDL-C numbers, it's about the small anti-inflammatory effect that statins seem to have.

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on November 14, 2013
at 12:33 AM

Well put, Sam. It is a money grab by a very corrupt group. And to think of all the down votes I get when I mention corruption in medicine, but here we are talking tens of billions of dollars for zero or negative medical outcome. I guess they saw Wall Street do it (TARP), the insurance industry do it (Obamacare), now they want their government mandated tax-for-private-entity, too.

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on November 14, 2013
at 12:20 AM

One more class of doctors to cross off my "to trust" list. Seriously dudes, even LDL cholesterol has been proven to be required by the body to some degree...

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on November 13, 2013
at 05:17 PM

I think they're just reeling for a windfall before the whole cholesterol/statin bubble busts in their faces. At least that way they'll have more to run off with when everyone realizes they've been duped.

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on November 13, 2013
at 08:11 AM

Increased the statin market by a lot

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on November 13, 2013
at 12:42 AM

The silver lining is the disregard for lowering LDL. Tacit in that strategy is the admission that a low LDL number does not offer as protective an effect as we once thought. Of course, they are still using high LDL as one of their risk indicators, which contradicts their decision to discontinue attempts to lower it. Nonetheless, there does seem to be a hint of sea change here.

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on November 13, 2013
at 04:37 PM

Its not that LDL isn't effective as an indicator, but rather that the new guideline includes risk factors for ischemia type strokes as well. Elevated LDL is still considered one of the best indicators for heart attack risk.

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