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What's my problem with chocolate?

Answered on August 19, 2014
Created September 24, 2011 at 10:06 AM

I've just done 34 days of a whole30/ very strict paleo with no cheats - and I felt absolutely wonderful for it.

I've just had my first non strict food - four squares of organic 85% chocolate - and I felt sick almost instantly. And I still feel sick!

What on earth is it that is causing the issue, dairy? Very surprised as I thought I didn't have any issues with food.

77877f762c40637911396daa19b53094

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on September 25, 2011
at 05:34 PM

Nobody knows what is paleo or not for sure. Also, there is that little thing called epigenetics. So, your arguments are false. I don't care about paleo at all to be precise. I base my nutrition on science not voodoo.

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on September 24, 2011
at 09:33 PM

I reflux the heck out of chocolate. Doesn't stop me from eating it, though!

77877f762c40637911396daa19b53094

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on September 24, 2011
at 04:58 PM

I should have written WHOLE 365/366. Indulge in neolithic agents of disease at your own peril.

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on September 24, 2011
at 04:54 PM

I get jittery if that makes sense... I ate dark chocolate for years and then it started to bother me and I could only eat milk chocolate. I tried dark chocolate a month or two ago with no luck. Now I avoid both...

77877f762c40637911396daa19b53094

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on September 24, 2011
at 04:49 PM

Let me preface my comments with this disclaimer. I have great admiration for any and all Paleohackers. Now the "meat" of my comment. Why does this surprise you? Cocoa is not a paleo food. It is not part of huamn nutrition. It is part of human entertainment! We pay a price for our entertainment. ie. coffee and alchohol. I've gotten mild reactions from chocolate, corn chips fried in omaga 6 oil, and lobster salad with omaga 6 mayo.It surprised me too! That's why we eat the way we do. It's all crack cocaine. It's just legal. We all forget how injurious this neolithic crap is! TRY a WHOLE 360

77877f762c40637911396daa19b53094

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on September 24, 2011
at 04:43 PM

Do that now and report back. You need to be little more investigative and try to isolate the problem.

77877f762c40637911396daa19b53094

(78467)

on September 24, 2011
at 04:43 PM

Do that now, and report back. You need to be a little more investigative.

77877f762c40637911396daa19b53094

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on September 24, 2011
at 04:42 PM

Have you tried other brands ? Have you tried pure cocoa drink (not fat reduced) ? DO t

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on September 24, 2011
at 02:39 PM

No, it was Lindt and it made my stomach feel really irritated. Is that what happens when you have green & blacks?

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on September 24, 2011
at 02:39 PM

My stomach felt (and still feels quite some time later) very irritated and I felt physically sick. First time I've felt not great in 34 days! It was Lindt 85% chocolate and the ingredients: cocoa mass, low fat cocoa powder, cocoa butter, demerara sugar, natural bourbon vanilla beans. May contain traces of soya lecithin.

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on September 24, 2011
at 12:57 PM

Even though Mark Sisson disagrees, soy lecithin CAN trigger a reaction! (http://foodallergies.about.com/od/soyallergies/a/Soy-Allergy-Overview.htm) That's why you should stick to 100% chocolate if you are going to eat it!

77877f762c40637911396daa19b53094

(78467)

on September 24, 2011
at 12:35 PM

Without symptoms, nobody can tell you that.

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7841848bd0c27c64353c583fb7971242

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on December 19, 2011
at 02:01 AM

I've had reactions (diarrhea) to both Lindt and Chocolove dark chocolate, but not to Endangered Species dark chocolate, which is certified gluten-free under 5ppm. Lindt is thankfully explicit on their website about the gluten risk: other chocolates in their line contain gluten and while they thoroughly clean the lines between chocolates, there's no guarantee it is gluten free. After the reactions to Lindt and Chocolove, I thought I had a celiac cross-reaction or an allergy/intolerance to chocolate, but after being just fine with Endangered Species chocolate on multiple occasions, I think it may be the trace amounts of gluten. It would be interesting to see if anyone else has had this experience as well.

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on September 24, 2011
at 11:52 AM

I doubt that it's dairy, as dark chocolate should be dairy free, however even high quality chocolate (like Green & Blacks) often uses soy lecithin as an emulsifier, so maybe you have a soy sensitivity.

Also, chocolate contains fairly significant amounts of various stimulants like caffeine and theobromine, so I wouldn't rule out a bad reaction to those after a Whole 30.

Equally, cocoa is high in gut irritants like phytic acid and tannins, which were probably largely eliminated during the Whole 30.

It could have been any one of these factors, or taken as a whole they could have simply overwhelmed your system. Maybe you could tell us a little more about your symptoms?

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on September 24, 2011
at 12:57 PM

Even though Mark Sisson disagrees, soy lecithin CAN trigger a reaction! (http://foodallergies.about.com/od/soyallergies/a/Soy-Allergy-Overview.htm) That's why you should stick to 100% chocolate if you are going to eat it!

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on September 24, 2011
at 10:56 AM

It could be a food allergy. It's been out of your system long enough that you can feel its effects now when you eat it. some people are allergic to cocoa itself, or it could be another ingredient in that particular chocolate bar. The way to test this would be to lay off of it again for at least a few days, then try a more purified form of chocolate and see how you feel.

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on September 24, 2011
at 10:54 AM

It may have just been too much to start with. Dark chocolate is a powerful food - a little goes a long way. The first few times I had the Lindt 90%, I could only do one square before I started to feel it in my stomach (I was coming off a Whole30 then too). I think sick would have been a greater order of magnitude than what I was feeling, but I also stopped after like 1 1/2 squares.

If you like chocolate (and who doesn't) and would like to be able to eat it without feeling horrible, try again with only one piece and see how you feel. (Break it up into really small pieces and mix it with walnuts, yum! Raisins are good in there too, but hugely high in sugar).

Also, when I was coming off Whole30, dairy (cream in coffee and cheese) made me tremendously sick to my stomach when I first had a substantial amount of it--several months later, it doesn't bother me anymore.

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on September 25, 2011
at 07:12 AM

The ingredients that you listed shows no signs of dairy...so your reaction had nothing to do with dairy intolerance. I ALWAYS react to dark chocolate! It makes me nauseated and just plain ICK. Dark chocolate contains caffeine, so if you are sensitive to caffeine you may want to try eating carob instead. Does coffee make you react the same way? Coffee and dark chocolate make me sick as a dog. Makes me sad because I love both, but I am just entirely too sensitive to caffeine =(

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on September 24, 2011
at 03:38 PM

It wouldn't surprise me if it was the cocoa itself. You could test this in a while by consuming a comparable amount of pure cocoa powder. I had a bad reaction to 100% chocolate after eating paleo for a while. Maybe after absence of possibly problematic foods, the body doesn't just surrender to the onslaught of plant chemicals like it used to. By analogy, somebody that never ate gluten may get sick from it, but keep eating wheat and sickness stops ocurring.

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on September 24, 2011
at 10:38 AM

How did you feel about eating it? Did you think it could make you feel sick? To feel that sick that quickly from such a small amount seems like it could be a mental thing.

When I stopped being vegetarian I felt so sick every time I ate meat for about a month and there is absolutely no physical reason for that.

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on September 25, 2011
at 12:21 PM

Chocolate is on most Top 10 lists for food sensitivities.

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on September 25, 2011
at 11:01 AM

It happened to me with Lindt 85% as well as Green&Blacks 85%. I could eat only a couple of squares without feeling sick. But funny thing, Lindt 99%, which I discovered only recently and is sooo heavenly btw:), didn't make me sick at all.

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on September 25, 2011
at 07:28 AM

Chocolate is strong stuff at higher doses. I think the active components are called theobromines. The normal reaction is pleasant at low doses but your sensitivity may vary. I have read that chocolate is good for you in moderation. Chocolate consumption has positive associations with cardio-vascular health.

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on September 24, 2011
at 10:55 AM

Not sure what causes it, but dark chocolate sometimes hits me too - a little nausea and an almost immediate, short-lasting headache. Usually happens when I eat it on an empty stomach.

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on September 24, 2011
at 10:38 AM

Is it the Green and Black chocolate? I have issues with that as well.... What happens when you eat it?

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on September 24, 2011
at 04:54 PM

I get jittery if that makes sense... I ate dark chocolate for years and then it started to bother me and I could only eat milk chocolate. I tried dark chocolate a month or two ago with no luck. Now I avoid both...

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on September 24, 2011
at 02:39 PM

No, it was Lindt and it made my stomach feel really irritated. Is that what happens when you have green & blacks?

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