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How to stop the mental state of "deprivation"

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Created March 07, 2012 at 5:32 PM

I am looking for advice/experiences from people who have either succeeded at the incredibly difficult task of training their mind/palette etc to not want sweets.

Or those who have had success with mental re-association of all sweet things.. anything along those lines..

I have been strict Paleo for over a year, completely 100% Sugar free for 8months, no fruit, no sugar, no apple juice sweetned, no cane juice, never tried Agave, wont touch anything with "ose" in the ingredients... for the purpose of trying incredibly hard to train myself to not like sweets

I grew up with chocolate as a part of my culture, i am half polish, and spent summers growing up there, my father loves it and had very high qulaity dark choco in the house growing up it was a very strong source of pleasure. Fast forward to my adulthood, and all of my attempts to changing this association have ultimately failed.

Here is what has changed. My palette.. Bakers Chocolate tastes like heaven, literally. I use stevia ones in a while, and it feels like extreme pleasure entering my mouth..so my tastes buds have changed BUT..

what has not changed in my mind. even after this long of all removal..i walk into a Patisserie or a chocolate shop, and i feel like i want to cry out of deprivation that I can't have these things. My boyfriend was invited to a fancy schmancy chocolatier opening and they gave him about 3 lbs of some of the finest choco in the world, and i literally am soo distraught over the fact that it sits in my apt. and i can't touch it.

Will this EVER GO AWAY?

I should say that...i never ever want anything else, the idea of a candy or chips or bread or rice of anything else other people crave. does not exist for me.

The only lingering culprit..is my absolute undying overwhelming desire for chocolate. (not the snickers bar kind, just high quality amazing chocolate)

Anyone ever rid themselves of this? Anything I can supplement to perhaps ease this physical desrire? Would EFT be appropriate for the mental side?

Thanks in advance!

Oh! I should add my reason for not eating it - It doesn't support my training. I dont feel the desire to jump out of bed and get to the gym in the morn, after i've eaten sugar..so thats my reason for staying away. Is that silly?

Oh! Also, when i eat Baker's chocolate, even if i eat like 5 blocks which is way too much, i NEVER EVER reach that seretonin spiking place of bliss, so always left unsatisfied. Same thing with the Coco oil/Stevia Choco bark..

IS there a way to get pleasure i am seeking without the damaging effects of sugar?

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on April 10, 2012
at 02:57 PM

you have to stop thinking you're missing out on things and understand your gaining things..gaining health, gaining strength...you're choosing sex appeal over a marsbar ;)

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on March 09, 2012
at 12:16 AM

BHC... You don't have to look, or bake! The post was how do we deal with cravings... This is how I deal.... The recipe is heavily nut based, if you use almond flour as well as the almond butter. But, should be eaten in total moderation. It also has a really low glycemic index.

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on March 08, 2012
at 07:38 PM

And it probably took me at least 3-4 weeks off non-nutritive sweeteners for me to stop craving them.

35ba1f50dad25c85ac1aa2599fe5c5cb

(2485)

on March 08, 2012
at 07:37 PM

I have 70% chocolate and sugar sometimes yes. I'm not LC paleo, I also eat fruit and tubers, and occasional foods made with real sugar (I am active and insulin sensitive). It doesn't seem to set me on the craving train in the same way that non-nutritive sweeteners like splenda, nutrisweet & stevia do. My hypothesis is that the sweet flavor but lack of accompanying calories confuses my body or mind more than eating a real sweet thing that has actual glucose or fructose.

D31a2a2d43191b15ca4a1c7ec7d03038

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on March 08, 2012
at 05:43 PM

Paleo4ever, I don't have the PubMed reports bookmarked, but all of those non-nutritive sweeteners, including stevia, have an insulin response. More insulin means lower blood sugar, hence the desire to eat sweets. I have the least trouble with saccharin tablets. I use Necta Sweet tablets. Dr. Bernstein's book spells out which sweeteners raise blood sugar and which ones don't. I grow stevia plants, and find they effect me more than saccharin tablets. Aspartame is the worst. A search for "aspartame, phenylalinine" will show why.

59ee717de524f921efb7f2984157339f

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on March 08, 2012
at 05:30 PM

wouldn't there be refined sugars in the chocolate?

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on March 08, 2012
at 04:32 AM

jess6, "Sometimes giving yourself permission to cheat if you really feel you need to means you don't feel you're missing out when you make the choice not to"-- agreed! Michael, I've been that way for some time too, and I still slip up although not often. But for me I think "a bar a day" deal stems from a restrictive mindset (I shouldn't be eating this!) which makes me eat more than I need/want. Also, maybe you're indulging while hungry? That would definitely make it harder to indulge in moderation. Agree on experimentation and figuring out what works for you.

Dc6407193ba441d1438f6f0c06af872b

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on March 08, 2012
at 02:52 AM

To further confuse you, I'm exactly the opposite. I can go without sugar for months and the temptation vanishes. But if I give in, I have to be tempted and "withdrawl" all over again. Alas I'm the same with dark chocolate. My choice is a bar a day or zero. I wish I could enjoy it in moderation like these people above, but I can't. Self experimentation. See what works for you. It's a process.

59ee717de524f921efb7f2984157339f

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on March 08, 2012
at 02:13 AM

jj- really? so no stevia, no fruit, do you do 100% chocolate ever? do you ever have sugar? how long did it take for your brain to stop the cravings?

35ba1f50dad25c85ac1aa2599fe5c5cb

(2485)

on March 08, 2012
at 01:49 AM

Sorry, I should have said "non-nutritive" sweeteners.

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on March 07, 2012
at 11:34 PM

well said. bravo

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on March 07, 2012
at 10:38 PM

Not arguing with your intended message, but stevia is a natural sweetener.

Cf89b6767687599fbbd8733757b5f215

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on March 07, 2012
at 10:03 PM

no defiantly no negative effects. We don't really train at all but the chocolate is a lovely treat. especially when we have czas na kawa :) best polish paleo food boczek i smazona jajo w smalec :)

7c9f81d68c78de1a31eab9c91c17b4b8

on March 07, 2012
at 09:28 PM

Ummmm...please don't post anymore delicious recipes. You're gonna make me fat. Take your devil brownies elsewhere. : )

56f585aeed92954cf45b94d3f5b3df98

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on March 07, 2012
at 09:18 PM

form of beverages (juice, soda, etc) and then eating all of my protein after taking in enough to replete the glycogen, since apparently the protein will be used for energy (via gluconeogenesis I'm guessing) if glycogen stores are low (according to Dr. Ray Peat. Forgot which article I read it in though...) http://raypeat.com/articles/

56f585aeed92954cf45b94d3f5b3df98

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on March 07, 2012
at 09:15 PM

Fructose is probably best, since it can only be metabolized by the liver, and can actually replete your glycogen stores faster than glucose http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dBnniua6-oM (Check out 1 hr 1 min) And all of the health problems Dr. Lustig talks about, such as dense LDL and de novo lipogenesis, happens when you take in EXCESS fructose. Most available source of fructose is just plain sucrose, which is 50% fructose 50% glucose, or HFCS. P.S. I've been experimenting with intermittent fasting to deplete my liver glycogen stores and then taking in alot of sugar in the....

D31a2a2d43191b15ca4a1c7ec7d03038

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on March 07, 2012
at 07:24 PM

Paleo4ever, I wish you joy and success with your food plan. I'll be sending you lots of good thoughts and smiles. :) BaconHealsChic, thanks for your kind thoughts. Hope you are doing splendidly. :)

59ee717de524f921efb7f2984157339f

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on March 07, 2012
at 07:21 PM

Thanks PG...i appreciate it :)

59ee717de524f921efb7f2984157339f

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on March 07, 2012
at 07:19 PM

So in that case what forms of sugar are best?

7c9f81d68c78de1a31eab9c91c17b4b8

on March 07, 2012
at 07:15 PM

Love this PG. Great commentary I can relate to.

306aa57660d911781231f8090c2a5619

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on March 07, 2012
at 07:01 PM

This is what I was going to say. Sometimes giving yourself permission to cheat if you really feel you need to means you don't feel you're missing out when you make the choice not to. And World's Best Chocolate? I'd totally eat it. Not all 3lbs at once hopefully, but that's a one-time thing that's likely to help satisfy a craving and not serve as an ongoing problem due to limited availability. Even Robb Wolf eats the corn tortillas in Mexico and all that :)

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on March 07, 2012
at 06:39 PM

I'm not polish, but i can certaily relate to the strong desire for chocolate. I let myself indulge on rare occasions with 90%+ dark chocolate and yes, i'd say it does satisfy. I just let it melt in my mouth so it lasts longer and I truly feel happy after :) It has had no adverse effects on my training. A little self indulgence is ok every once in a while. After all - we only live once.

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on March 07, 2012
at 06:25 PM

I have trained myself to want Fritos instead.

56f585aeed92954cf45b94d3f5b3df98

(146)

on March 07, 2012
at 06:17 PM

Yes, it really is. That's why we need to keep researching and keeping up with the latest studies, because what's bad one minute becomes the fountain of youth next!

59ee717de524f921efb7f2984157339f

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on March 07, 2012
at 06:08 PM

bruce...i dont even know what to think right now. that article confuses me more than i can describe, and i have spent the last 6 months of my life researching ketosis and using body fat for fuel. i can't begin to tell you how jarring that is.. I dont think i understand. So it is stating that Sugar is the optimal source of fuel? but what about all the research supporting fat as being the "high octane" form of fuel for our bodies... GAH! frustrating...

59ee717de524f921efb7f2984157339f

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on March 07, 2012
at 05:58 PM

hehe YES. Im spending this spring with family in Poland and can't wait to be out of America and feel like how i eat "fits in" lol Do you and your gf find that the 90% has any negative effects on you or your training? Does it spark cravings? does it satisfy with small amounts?

59ee717de524f921efb7f2984157339f

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on March 07, 2012
at 05:56 PM

love it. and will be more mindful.

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on March 07, 2012
at 05:51 PM

You're right, it's a mental state. One option is to change the mental state directly, by practicing alternative mental states like appreciation, gracefulness. Wake up with gladness for being alive and being given yet another day to shine. But what if you don't actually feel that way? Fake it. After all, feeling constantly deprived is itself an accomplishment, a remarkable achievement, in a world filled with stunning bounty.

I just now looked out the window at a tree filled with pink blossoms. I noticed its beauty. Then I noticed the more fundamental fact that I have eyes to see, ears to hear, hands with which to touch, feet capable of taking me to new places. I suspect if I keep thinking like this, I may have a glorious day. Am I willing to go there? Damned right.

59ee717de524f921efb7f2984157339f

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on March 07, 2012
at 05:56 PM

love it. and will be more mindful.

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2a00b9a42e4cb6e489a0e69d20714576

on March 07, 2012
at 09:19 PM

Just eat the damn chocolate, don't go overboard:) If you do, move on. Life is too short to deprive yourself of the good things in life (excluding grains, legumes and refined sugars).

6b365c14c646462210f3ef6b6fecace1

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on March 07, 2012
at 11:34 PM

well said. bravo

59ee717de524f921efb7f2984157339f

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on March 08, 2012
at 05:30 PM

wouldn't there be refined sugars in the chocolate?

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Ab6fa1917815179062768c861b2efdab

on March 07, 2012
at 06:47 PM

From my experience, I crave certain foods much more if I forbid myself to eat them. If my attitude is "I must never ever ever eat cake, because it's so harmful in so many ways", I will be craving it and eventually eat way more than I would have if I allowed myself small indulgences. I try to avoid severe mental restrictions like that (doesn't mean they never happen). The attitude that works for me is: It's cool to be healthy and I try to eat as healthy as I can. When I want to try something non paleo, I just go for it (making sure I do it after having some nutritious food beforehand), try some and move on.

If you're paleo most of the time and avoiding restrictive relationships with food, some chocolate every once in a while shouldn't hurt. And because you don't view any food as taboo, your cravings should eventually subside (I'm assuming your cravings are of psychological origin, however if you have some sort of nutritional deficiency it's prolly a whole different story).

Ab6fa1917815179062768c861b2efdab

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on March 08, 2012
at 04:32 AM

jess6, "Sometimes giving yourself permission to cheat if you really feel you need to means you don't feel you're missing out when you make the choice not to"-- agreed! Michael, I've been that way for some time too, and I still slip up although not often. But for me I think "a bar a day" deal stems from a restrictive mindset (I shouldn't be eating this!) which makes me eat more than I need/want. Also, maybe you're indulging while hungry? That would definitely make it harder to indulge in moderation. Agree on experimentation and figuring out what works for you.

306aa57660d911781231f8090c2a5619

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on March 07, 2012
at 07:01 PM

This is what I was going to say. Sometimes giving yourself permission to cheat if you really feel you need to means you don't feel you're missing out when you make the choice not to. And World's Best Chocolate? I'd totally eat it. Not all 3lbs at once hopefully, but that's a one-time thing that's likely to help satisfy a craving and not serve as an ongoing problem due to limited availability. Even Robb Wolf eats the corn tortillas in Mexico and all that :)

Dc6407193ba441d1438f6f0c06af872b

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on March 08, 2012
at 02:52 AM

To further confuse you, I'm exactly the opposite. I can go without sugar for months and the temptation vanishes. But if I give in, I have to be tempted and "withdrawl" all over again. Alas I'm the same with dark chocolate. My choice is a bar a day or zero. I wish I could enjoy it in moderation like these people above, but I can't. Self experimentation. See what works for you. It's a process.

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D31a2a2d43191b15ca4a1c7ec7d03038

on March 07, 2012
at 05:53 PM

Paleo4ever, are you asking if there is a way to eat so that you have a happy high, or just to feel calm, alert, and like smiling?

Dr. Emily Deans posted about the belief that eating any-old-carbs carbs make folks serotonin-happy. And later in this post, ending with this paragraph:

*And, since this mechanism depends on insulin, if one is contending that a high carb "serotonin cure" diet is helpful for depression, one must take into account that people with severe hyperinsulinemia are more likely to be depressed than people without, not less (though there are other confounding factors - since inflammation is one, the high carb diet in an (inflamed) type II diabetic might lead to increases in kynurenic rather than serotonin, explaining the diffference??? but you see there is way too much unknown to make any general prescription for high carb diets in this context.)

Many of us have found that it takes a goodly time of trial and error, in order to find a food plan which gives us the best nourishment for our nervous system, brain, and moods, leading to better health and wellbeing.

It seems to me, that wanting to eat sweets is not just a mental habit. It could very easily be that one needs certain nutrients and that real need merely gets interpreted as a desire for sweets.

The amounts of protein, carbs, and fat AND what foods make up those categories are equally important. Some can get away with sloppy food plans and stay well and cheery. Others of us walk the razor's edge, and must eat for our health first.

A couple of my own examples:

It took a bit of gumption for me to take up eating liver and brains, and take cod liver oil. I'm ever so glad I did. And taking supplements has helped greatly, too. I now find I prefer offal and egg yolks over many other foods. :) Drinking bone and meat broths instead of something else, has given me more physical strength and endurance, and a feeling of steadiness.

I don't miss what I don't eat. Having health challenges put health as first, second, and third priority. ;)

It appears, to me, that there is a danger when various foods symbolize personal or social fulfillment. That approach, to me, makes food a symbol for something which rightly ought to be filled through something else, and let eating being for nourishment for health. (I have noticed that I am very much amongst those who draw the No Candy Cigarettes line. That might be my favorite post of Dr. Harris' commentaries.)

Also, some have found that taking magnesium and eating more animal fats helps solve that desire for chocolate.

Hope this helps a bit. I wish you all the best. :)

D31a2a2d43191b15ca4a1c7ec7d03038

(4134)

on March 07, 2012
at 07:24 PM

Paleo4ever, I wish you joy and success with your food plan. I'll be sending you lots of good thoughts and smiles. :) BaconHealsChic, thanks for your kind thoughts. Hope you are doing splendidly. :)

7c9f81d68c78de1a31eab9c91c17b4b8

on March 07, 2012
at 07:15 PM

Love this PG. Great commentary I can relate to.

59ee717de524f921efb7f2984157339f

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on March 07, 2012
at 07:21 PM

Thanks PG...i appreciate it :)

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35ba1f50dad25c85ac1aa2599fe5c5cb

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on March 07, 2012
at 09:23 PM

Stop eating all artificial sweeteners like stevia. Somehow it worked magic on my brain and I stopped feeling deprived or strong cravings for sweet foods.

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on March 07, 2012
at 10:38 PM

Not arguing with your intended message, but stevia is a natural sweetener.

35ba1f50dad25c85ac1aa2599fe5c5cb

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on March 08, 2012
at 07:38 PM

And it probably took me at least 3-4 weeks off non-nutritive sweeteners for me to stop craving them.

35ba1f50dad25c85ac1aa2599fe5c5cb

(2485)

on March 08, 2012
at 01:49 AM

Sorry, I should have said "non-nutritive" sweeteners.

35ba1f50dad25c85ac1aa2599fe5c5cb

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on March 08, 2012
at 07:37 PM

I have 70% chocolate and sugar sometimes yes. I'm not LC paleo, I also eat fruit and tubers, and occasional foods made with real sugar (I am active and insulin sensitive). It doesn't seem to set me on the craving train in the same way that non-nutritive sweeteners like splenda, nutrisweet & stevia do. My hypothesis is that the sweet flavor but lack of accompanying calories confuses my body or mind more than eating a real sweet thing that has actual glucose or fructose.

59ee717de524f921efb7f2984157339f

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on March 08, 2012
at 02:13 AM

jj- really? so no stevia, no fruit, do you do 100% chocolate ever? do you ever have sugar? how long did it take for your brain to stop the cravings?

D31a2a2d43191b15ca4a1c7ec7d03038

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on March 08, 2012
at 05:43 PM

Paleo4ever, I don't have the PubMed reports bookmarked, but all of those non-nutritive sweeteners, including stevia, have an insulin response. More insulin means lower blood sugar, hence the desire to eat sweets. I have the least trouble with saccharin tablets. I use Necta Sweet tablets. Dr. Bernstein's book spells out which sweeteners raise blood sugar and which ones don't. I grow stevia plants, and find they effect me more than saccharin tablets. Aspartame is the worst. A search for "aspartame, phenylalinine" will show why.

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on March 07, 2012
at 08:52 PM

Why You Should Eat and Drink High-Cacao Dark Chocolate: http://www.marksdailyapple.com/why-you-should-eat-and-drink-high-cacao-dark-chocolate/

I'm eating way more chocolate than before going primal/paleo. My body feels good about it. But I think it's easier to lose weight and cheaper if I try to reduce my intake a bit. It might be a good idea to indulge during the weekends but restrict chocolate usage a bit during the week..

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on March 07, 2012
at 07:45 PM

Heck no I don't "CUT out Chocolate". I make brownies, but I only eat one or two a day... The rest of the time I eat my veggies and meats. If I am trying to lose some weight, I will go more lean with my meats.

1 cup almond butter 2 eggs 1/3 cup Cocoa powder 1/2 can full fat Coconut milk (mix it up) 1/2 cup coconut crystals, or palm sugar 1/4 teaspoon sea salt 1/3 cup almond or coconut flour

Pour into a buttered pan and bake for approx 30 to 35 minutes. Variation add cream cheese mixture on top then bake: 8 oz cream cheese 1 egg 1/3 coconut crystals or palm sugar 1/4 cup almond or coconut flour 2 teaspoons vanilla

Bake as stated above.

7c9f81d68c78de1a31eab9c91c17b4b8

on March 07, 2012
at 09:28 PM

Ummmm...please don't post anymore delicious recipes. You're gonna make me fat. Take your devil brownies elsewhere. : )

Ef69ca2d5434e470d44f7fa6b4cc1965

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on March 09, 2012
at 12:16 AM

BHC... You don't have to look, or bake! The post was how do we deal with cravings... This is how I deal.... The recipe is heavily nut based, if you use almond flour as well as the almond butter. But, should be eaten in total moderation. It also has a really low glycemic index.

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on March 07, 2012
at 05:53 PM

So you cut all chocolate out altogether? That takes a lot of dedication. I hear what you're saying me and my girlfriend who is also polish love dark chocolate. I dont know about yourself but we afford ourselves the occasional treat once in a while. Coffee with cream and a bit of 90% dark lindt :D

We are strict paleo most of the time but from time to time need a bit of a reprieve. Its good for the psyche. On a side note we have foud the polish diet to be really geared up for paleo eating. Lots of fatty meat, raw dairy and plenty of fresh veg.

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on March 07, 2012
at 10:03 PM

no defiantly no negative effects. We don't really train at all but the chocolate is a lovely treat. especially when we have czas na kawa :) best polish paleo food boczek i smazona jajo w smalec :)

59ee717de524f921efb7f2984157339f

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on March 07, 2012
at 05:58 PM

hehe YES. Im spending this spring with family in Poland and can't wait to be out of America and feel like how i eat "fits in" lol Do you and your gf find that the 90% has any negative effects on you or your training? Does it spark cravings? does it satisfy with small amounts?

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on March 07, 2012
at 06:39 PM

I'm not polish, but i can certaily relate to the strong desire for chocolate. I let myself indulge on rare occasions with 90%+ dark chocolate and yes, i'd say it does satisfy. I just let it melt in my mouth so it lasts longer and I truly feel happy after :) It has had no adverse effects on my training. A little self indulgence is ok every once in a while. After all - we only live once.

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on March 07, 2012
at 11:29 PM

Follow Dorado Galore's advice, and then think about this:

“The only way to get rid of temptation is to yield to it...I can resist anything except temptation.” ― Oscar Wilde

We are so blessed to be living in a time of amazing food artistry, well crafted chocolates being among the choices. Sure, food should be for health and fuel the vast majority of the time, but orthorexia is such a bore. I think the human soul benefits from memorable indulgences.

Even if there is a little bit of a recovery time after one of these indulgences, if the pleasure outweighs the pain, it is certainly worth it.

Eat those chocolates, make it an event, and savor every moment. You will remember it fondly for years to come.

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on March 07, 2012
at 09:19 PM

This is an important question since in my personal experience a sense of deprivation carries with it a risk of deviating from the planned mix of foods.

Some times I can't avoid it, as I'm gluten sensitive enough that having a sesame seed bagel with my fried eggs just can't be my standard breakfast any more. A year hasn't eliminated my wish for it, though.

I've chosen to eat a lot of vegetables, leafy/non-starchy/starchy, and a grapefruit per day plus sweet/starchy fruit in my yogurt. In my case, eating all those things keeps any sense of deprivation at bay when added to liberal servings of fatty meat.

So I guess what I'm saying is that the first step in managing my sense of deprivation is high quality nutrition from a variety of whole foods. The more foods I rotate the less deprived I feel.

For me, step two isn't food-based at all. It's the excellent results on this month's blood work and my status as a 65-yr-old taking NO meds thanks to meat, fruit and vegetables. Yes, I love many SAD foods but my health is more important to me. If that changes, I'll be having bagels with my eggs.

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on March 07, 2012
at 08:47 PM

Have you tried Cacoa Nibs? Absolutely no sugar in those babies. Eating them straight is a little intense, but with chopped nuts it's almost like a dark chocolate nut bar. Grind them up (I use a mortar and pestle) and add a little melted butter...it's almost more chocolate than chocolate. The bonus of the Nibs is you can also get your cocoa fix from savory foods, like slow roasted meats. It sounds a little odd, but a cocoa based sauce (mole sauce, I think it is?) is often used in savory mexican cooking. Try it in coconut or almond milk heated up with a little chili pepper. I guess you could just use cocoa powder, but the raw cocoa butter in the nibs gives it that chocolate creaminess that cocoa powder lacks.

I am eastern European as well and a cocoa junkie for life. But you don't have to eat traditionally prepared chocolate to get your cocoa, which is actually packed with antioxidants and fiber and proven to boost your mood.

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56f585aeed92954cf45b94d3f5b3df98

on March 07, 2012
at 05:57 PM

Read this and decide for yourself if you should eat sugar.

http://www.dannyroddy.com/main/2012/2/27/sugar-pure-white-awesome.html

59ee717de524f921efb7f2984157339f

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on March 07, 2012
at 07:19 PM

So in that case what forms of sugar are best?

56f585aeed92954cf45b94d3f5b3df98

(146)

on March 07, 2012
at 06:17 PM

Yes, it really is. That's why we need to keep researching and keeping up with the latest studies, because what's bad one minute becomes the fountain of youth next!

59ee717de524f921efb7f2984157339f

(871)

on March 07, 2012
at 06:08 PM

bruce...i dont even know what to think right now. that article confuses me more than i can describe, and i have spent the last 6 months of my life researching ketosis and using body fat for fuel. i can't begin to tell you how jarring that is.. I dont think i understand. So it is stating that Sugar is the optimal source of fuel? but what about all the research supporting fat as being the "high octane" form of fuel for our bodies... GAH! frustrating...

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on March 07, 2012
at 09:15 PM

Fructose is probably best, since it can only be metabolized by the liver, and can actually replete your glycogen stores faster than glucose http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dBnniua6-oM (Check out 1 hr 1 min) And all of the health problems Dr. Lustig talks about, such as dense LDL and de novo lipogenesis, happens when you take in EXCESS fructose. Most available source of fructose is just plain sucrose, which is 50% fructose 50% glucose, or HFCS. P.S. I've been experimenting with intermittent fasting to deplete my liver glycogen stores and then taking in alot of sugar in the....

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on March 07, 2012
at 09:18 PM

form of beverages (juice, soda, etc) and then eating all of my protein after taking in enough to replete the glycogen, since apparently the protein will be used for energy (via gluconeogenesis I'm guessing) if glycogen stores are low (according to Dr. Ray Peat. Forgot which article I read it in though...) http://raypeat.com/articles/

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