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Daiya Cheese okay to use?

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Created August 23, 2012 at 7:29 PM

Im new to Paleo. I saw a video on YouTube with someone making pizza using daiya use. Is Daiya cheese okay to use?

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on January 20, 2013
at 04:48 AM

Daiya is good. If you worried about it...damn, you got bigger problems than avoiding it is going to solve...

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on January 19, 2013
at 08:35 PM

I don't think Mark Sisson would give "titanium dioxide" a pass. It's what makes paint white. It may be "naturally occurring" but then, so is arsenic.

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on January 12, 2013
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I want to know why I was down-voted for this answer.

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on August 24, 2012
at 12:12 AM

Daiya cheese is not paleo, it's a science experiment. Even with all the ways we disagree about paleo (dairy, rice, white potatoes, nuts, lots of fruits, etc.) The core principle is still that humans need to eat real whole foods, not processed fake food in plastic packages.

If you want cheese and can't have it because of allergies or intolerances, then use the Daiya when you want to have cheese. Otherwise, if you can eat dairy, but you don't want to because it is not "Paleo" then Daiya cheese is unacceptable as well, even more so in my opinion. Real, fresh cheese is better. Eat it as a primal treat if you can tolerate it.

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on August 23, 2012
at 08:35 PM

Okay, I had to look it up.

http://www.daiyafoods.com/our-products/cheddar-wedge

Filtered water, tapioca flour, palm fruit oil, non-GMO expeller pressed canola and/or pressed safflower oil, pea protein, coconut oil, salt, inactive yeast, vegetable glycerin, xanthan gum, vegan natural flavours, gum arabic, lactic acid (vegan, for flavor), annatto, titanium dioxide (a naturally occurring mineral), natural smoke flavour, vegan enzyme.

It seems that Daiya cheese is not cheese, as it's dairy free. The ingredient list isn't horrible if you're a vegan, I suppose, but being an omnivore, you can choose to put much healthier (not to mention natural) substances into your body.

You also said ... I saw a video on YouTube with someone making pizza using daiya use.

Suffice to say, your average pizza is not paleo, as it contains wheat as it's main ingredient. There are plenty of recipes that "paleo-ify" pizza -- almond flour crust, or "meatza" for e.g. -- but I suggest trying to stick with real foods, before tempting yourself with paleo-ified SAD foods.

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on August 24, 2012
at 12:34 AM

I tried to like Daiya when I was vegan. Positive points: Melts better than other non-dairy cheese. Tastes better than some other non-dairy cheese. Negatives? After about two bites I got severe stomach distress, and having been an active member in the vegan community I can say with relative confidence that I was not the only one who got nauseated from it. If you can't have dairy cheese at all (allergy, etc.), and REALLY want pizza? Maybe. But it's fake cheese, and if you can tolerate some dairy you're far better off eating the real thing than a processed "cheese" food--which, in my book, is just as bad as Kraft singles or something like them.

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on August 23, 2012
at 08:28 PM

From what I recall, there were a few Paleo objections to Daiya cheese - 1. the pea protein and 2. the oils used.

I've used it and don't notice any kind of reaction to it, but I also personally don't think that eating arrowroot starch is any better/worse than just sucking it up and eating cheese if I want it, particularly grass fed or raw milk cheese.

Like so many other things, it all depends on what works with YOUR Paleo and not really anyone elses. Certainly would not fly during a Whole 30 or strict paleo, though.

I used it a fair amount when I was mostly eating vegetarian. It melts well (a HUGE selling point when compared to other veggie/vegan cheeses), has a good texture/mouth feel (love that phrase - heh) and the cheddar and jack flavors taste pretty good too.

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on March 19, 2013
at 06:59 PM

Many people (apparently 75%) sensitive to gluten are also sensitive to yeast. I get stomach cramps from pea protein in any significant amount. Hard to know how much there is of each of these in daiya cheese. That said, I had no reaction after eating a piece of gluten-free lasagna which included daiya cheese. - tasted great after being off dairy and gluten for many years. Special treat.

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on January 24, 2013
at 11:13 PM

According to the company, their cheese contains corn - in the form of citric acid and xantham gum. That, the oils, and the titanium dioxide make this "cheese" decidedly not Paleo. That and the fact that it is super processed. If you can handle dairy occasionally, raw milk cheese from grassfed cows is the way to go.

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on January 19, 2013
at 07:07 PM

I just had some Daiya chink Havarti style that was delicious. I don't eat dairy cheeses at because of the cruelty involved in the dairy industry, it's unbelievable. I also try not eat processed foods but sometimes a little processed non daity cheese can make a huge difference and certainly it helps in the transition of anyone wanting to remove real cheese from their diet for ethical issues.

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on December 29, 2012
at 02:30 AM

that crap is not paleo at all no matter how you look at it. with that said, if you don't follow paleo 100%, then by all means eat this stuff.

i used it during my vegan days and while it doesn't do real cheese justice at all, it is edible in small amounts.

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on December 29, 2012
at 02:06 AM

Why not make sunflower cheddar? Cashew moxerella? Macadamia faux-cotta? These can be made at home from scratch with pectin and probiotics added to culture them. Seriously look into these as craving killers and makr enough to share with yoir friends. Why fight about foods when there are plenty of tasty ideas on the web. Look it up!

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on August 25, 2012
at 02:55 AM

thank you everyone for your responses. they're all very helpful.

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on August 23, 2012
at 09:05 PM

Daiya is great. A lot of paleos can't have dairy and this is the least offensive alternative. No soy, gluten, peanuts, etc etc. Everything else is garbage. Honestly, if you look at the ingredients, every one of them except for the safflower oil has been given a pass by Sisson (including peas) in one way or another. By my estimation the product has about 1gram of omega 6 per serving. That's a lot less than a serving of "paleo" chicken....

Verdict? Neutral. In moderation this shouldn't negatively or positively affect you.

Of course if Daiya is your "gateway" drug back to hardcore SAD then avoid at all costs! Far too many people end up on the "Faileo Diet" starting with these types of borderline foods. You are your best judge though. The "paleo" template is always individual.

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on January 12, 2013
at 06:20 AM

I want to know why I was down-voted for this answer.

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on January 19, 2013
at 08:35 PM

I don't think Mark Sisson would give "titanium dioxide" a pass. It's what makes paint white. It may be "naturally occurring" but then, so is arsenic.

6d64cd6dc98d6ab763bd03678a317964

(2177)

on January 20, 2013
at 04:48 AM

Daiya is good. If you worried about it...damn, you got bigger problems than avoiding it is going to solve...

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