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Stomach hurts for few days after slice of pizza

Answered on August 19, 2014
Created April 16, 2013 at 3:24 PM

I've just started the Paleo diet. I started a little less than a month ago (3/18/13). My first two weeks of starting I saw an initial weight gain and then about a week or two ago just started losing and can really tell that I'm losing fat in my stomach.

Two days ago I had a hockey game which was strenuous activity for a half hour. After this my sister had a birthday party at a skating rink and not having much food that day I had one single slice of pizza. About a half hour after my stomach started to feel crampy. It continued into the next day and eased up that night. It's not as bad today but I can still feel I'm not at 100%. Most foods don't interest me right now and I almost feel like I came off of a stomach flu.

I never had any issues before this with pizza causing stomach problems but I realize eating this good now could have erased my tolerance for it. I just wasn't sure if it could be this fast. I also recently increased my activity level now that my hockey season has started. It also might be beneficial to note that I was on a calorie counting diet for about 2 years before this where I lost 65 lbs before gaining about 20 back.

Example day of meals:

Breakfast: Egg, bacon, and veggies stir fry Some form of fruit

Snack: Apple Beef Jerky Handful of almonds 70% dark chocolate Hard boiled egg (Eaten at different times)

Lunch: Form of protein and veggies Clementine

Dinner: Form of protein and veggies

Not sure if this matters but I pretty much never ate veggies before this. It's been a process of training my brain to not think they are gross but so far I've been able to dice them into foods I enjoy and I'm liking them. It could be a number of factors but it seems most likely it is the pizza since I felt it so soon after consuming it.

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on April 18, 2013
at 04:49 PM

I don't have an answer to that except that some people don't notice what all makes them feel crappy until they cut it out of their diet for a while. I lived for decades with undiagnosed celiac and feeling crappy just thinking it was my lot in life. After cutting out gluten and dairy and sugar for a few months, I felt so good and then when I'd try to eat an offender, it would be so obvious in my new context. This is the methodology of an elimination diet which many allergists still use as a practical tool.

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on April 18, 2013
at 03:43 PM

Greymouser that was actually me! Arugula, if I had no dairy issues before would they show up now after being Paleo?

94480caec9fbbaacc386d86a45efa720

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on April 18, 2013
at 02:58 PM

Many celiacs have lactose intolerance stemming from the damage in their small intestines. As their villi heal/regrow on a GF diet, some start producing lactase again and then can eat dairy. How long it takes the gut to heal varies in individuals and there's no guarantee of being able to eat dairy again. You may have to experiment. In some cases, like me, the individ has developed a casein allergy or intolerance (casein sets off my skin) that may or may not abate after going gluten free and casein free for a while. I've been able to eat a bit of dairy here and there for treats after 4 years GF.

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on April 18, 2013
at 02:57 PM

LOL, nevermind - I totally made a boneheaded mistake and thought you posted the original question. Ignore that part for now. :-)

7eebcce9cbabe3ffbc761dbc57cea8ac

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on April 18, 2013
at 02:16 PM

I for some reason don't have an edit or add comment functionality to any post except for this one? Maybe because I did this originally as an unregistered user? Either way I will keep that in mind. I guess I will have to test and keep record of my intolerances as time goes on. I never would have imagined this would be the case but I guess it just further proves the point of Paleo!

Ebb10603524dd22621c1155dd7ddf106

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on April 18, 2013
at 01:51 PM

Welcome to PH! As an aside, try not to "answer" your own questions when extending them - you can edit questions (update them) with more info, or comment on the original answer. But whatever, that's for next time - welcome. :-) I happen to be gluten sensitive and lactose intolerant, too. Lactose tends to be indigestible - your symptoms will likely be heavy bloating leading to cramps and likely gas, likely passing within 8-24 hours. For gluten intolerance, symptoms vary all over. I get horrible, horrible cramps for about 36 hours. A GF pizza would have been better, but still not great food.

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on April 16, 2013
at 10:14 PM

This is textbook gluten sensitivity (or celiac). Most in this forum that come into Paleo they discover that they're gluten sensitive, after their immune system reawakens, after having removed gluten for a few days. Only one thing you can do: never have glutenous food ever again. Gluten is not for you and me, it's not human food.

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on April 18, 2013
at 01:16 PM

Thanks for your answers everybody. This is my registered name now. Not sure if I can ask more here but I'll try it anyways. Knowing this could be a gluten issue is promising to me because I really don't ever want to feel this way again.

Do people that go Paleo often find they are lactose intolerant too? I'm wondering if the cheese had any effect as well?

Would I likely have been okay if this pizza was gluten free?

94480caec9fbbaacc386d86a45efa720

(1007)

on April 18, 2013
at 04:49 PM

I don't have an answer to that except that some people don't notice what all makes them feel crappy until they cut it out of their diet for a while. I lived for decades with undiagnosed celiac and feeling crappy just thinking it was my lot in life. After cutting out gluten and dairy and sugar for a few months, I felt so good and then when I'd try to eat an offender, it would be so obvious in my new context. This is the methodology of an elimination diet which many allergists still use as a practical tool.

Ebb10603524dd22621c1155dd7ddf106

(19150)

on April 18, 2013
at 02:57 PM

LOL, nevermind - I totally made a boneheaded mistake and thought you posted the original question. Ignore that part for now. :-)

Ebb10603524dd22621c1155dd7ddf106

(19150)

on April 18, 2013
at 01:51 PM

Welcome to PH! As an aside, try not to "answer" your own questions when extending them - you can edit questions (update them) with more info, or comment on the original answer. But whatever, that's for next time - welcome. :-) I happen to be gluten sensitive and lactose intolerant, too. Lactose tends to be indigestible - your symptoms will likely be heavy bloating leading to cramps and likely gas, likely passing within 8-24 hours. For gluten intolerance, symptoms vary all over. I get horrible, horrible cramps for about 36 hours. A GF pizza would have been better, but still not great food.

7eebcce9cbabe3ffbc761dbc57cea8ac

(15)

on April 18, 2013
at 02:16 PM

I for some reason don't have an edit or add comment functionality to any post except for this one? Maybe because I did this originally as an unregistered user? Either way I will keep that in mind. I guess I will have to test and keep record of my intolerances as time goes on. I never would have imagined this would be the case but I guess it just further proves the point of Paleo!

7eebcce9cbabe3ffbc761dbc57cea8ac

(15)

on April 18, 2013
at 03:43 PM

Greymouser that was actually me! Arugula, if I had no dairy issues before would they show up now after being Paleo?

94480caec9fbbaacc386d86a45efa720

(1007)

on April 18, 2013
at 02:58 PM

Many celiacs have lactose intolerance stemming from the damage in their small intestines. As their villi heal/regrow on a GF diet, some start producing lactase again and then can eat dairy. How long it takes the gut to heal varies in individuals and there's no guarantee of being able to eat dairy again. You may have to experiment. In some cases, like me, the individ has developed a casein allergy or intolerance (casein sets off my skin) that may or may not abate after going gluten free and casein free for a while. I've been able to eat a bit of dairy here and there for treats after 4 years GF.

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on April 16, 2013
at 11:48 PM

I am pretty strict paleo with no grains and few refined sugars. However, I will occasionally succumb to cravings or peer pressure and have a slice of pizza or a couple of cookies. I usually feel fine that day and a few hours later, but then have cramps, diarrhea, and bloating starting about 12 hours later lasting for up to 48-72 hours.

Because of the nasty side effects I do this less and less often, but I will be honest I like a good slice of pizza (not Domino's but real pizza) and it is a good source of carbs which I need every now and then. But it totally destroys my system for days.

I understand that this is typical of some people with gluten sensitivity, to not have problems immediately but have them a bit later. Kind of makes sense if you consider that the problem happens in the bowel, but not the stomach, it probably takes 6-12 hours for the bad stuff to make it that far.

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on April 16, 2013
at 03:32 PM

Have you looked into gluten intolerance or sensitivity? Sounds like how I feel after I have any kind of wheat or grain. Check out 50 Shades of Gluten (Intolerance) for some great info.

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