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How can i suggest my local cafe change some ingredients?

Answered on August 19, 2014
Created June 21, 2012 at 2:47 AM

Have you ever managed to get a food place to switch from margerine to butter, cage to pastured eggs etc?

My local cafe is pretty trendy, they use fancy sourdough, redonkulous espresso, lots of handmade goodies, but there is a big tub of meadowlea margerine the cook uses for everything. and it ruins my scrambled eggs. Im pretty chummy with the owner and the staff, but i have seen him shut down a customer who tried to bring in some special bread to use.

I dont want to bring my own, i want them to change what they use,

but, basically i wont say anything cause i will feel like a complete twot-face and couldn't think of anything worse.

but should i?

Should you?

have you?

03a4ec34751186201a56da298ac843ce

(4100)

on June 23, 2012
at 04:22 AM

Agreed, but really, who's gonna know? We have a chinese restaurant and have some good regulars who bring there own gluten free soy sauce, or homegrown stringbeans. Who would report us?

Ce7e28769d92d5de5533e775b1de966e

on June 22, 2012
at 02:37 PM

Always be an advocate for something you believe in - even if it scares you a little. That's how change begins. I support you being strong and getting in there! Go go! :)

03a4ec34751186201a56da298ac843ce

(4100)

on June 22, 2012
at 05:34 AM

I go to this deli and their menu says "butter." I asked about it, and the owners lied and told me the glop I was staring at was butter. I told him that butter is a solid at room temp and he finally showed me a tub of butter flavored fraken-margarine. I would love to get them to use real butter.

F5f742cc9228eb5804114d0f3be4e587

(7660)

on June 22, 2012
at 04:31 AM

@killer Nibs - Yes, THIS. So true. A restaurant's choices are determined by the lowest per serving costs. Using real butter for everything obviously makes that not possible.

B9a579a02921868db5098bfa99f8221c

(748)

on June 22, 2012
at 02:19 AM

maybe i could nail a letter on their door, ala Martin Luther 1517.

B9a579a02921868db5098bfa99f8221c

(748)

on June 22, 2012
at 02:09 AM

yeah, i think i can do this. we have plenty of chats about plenty of things, im just conscious of telling someone how to run their business. even though this isn't what i will be doing...

B9a579a02921868db5098bfa99f8221c

(748)

on June 22, 2012
at 02:06 AM

Thanks, i guess i know this is the way to go, im just so much more comfortable passively consuming then advocating for change. my first step perhaps.

B9a579a02921868db5098bfa99f8221c

(748)

on June 22, 2012
at 02:01 AM

yeah i have kind of been trying to do this, asking for "butter", but the term in so interchangeable that they assume i mean whatever yellow goop they usually spread.

Fd70d71f4f8195c3a098eda4fc817d4f

(8014)

on June 21, 2012
at 05:11 PM

Ooooh...I live in Springfield. Looks good!! Tried to go to that awesome butcher on Mt. Vernon Ave on Monday but they were closed. :( Can't wait to check it out. I've heard great things and their website is insane. http://www.letsmeatontheavenue.com/

61844af1187e745e09bb394cbd28cf23

(11058)

on June 21, 2012
at 04:28 AM

Depending on local ordinances, it could be a major health code violation to allow outside food into the kitchen.

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Ce7e28769d92d5de5533e775b1de966e

on June 21, 2012
at 01:42 PM

Seriously, the worst they can say is no.

Be very friendly and casually say "heyyy... any chance you may offer butter as an option sometime instead of just margarine - maybe charge .50 or $1 more for the customer if they want it?"

1. You asked. There may be others who are thinking the same thing but for some reason aren't following through.

2. You gave a little plan on a price point that may get their brain working, as just 3 people doing this would pay for a block of Kerrygold. They'll do the math, hopefully, and see that a $3 purchase will net them an addition $20+ depending on how much is used per serving.

If they say no? Now you know and just casually ask again every once in awhile in addition to having any of your other friends casually ask on occasion as well. If they say yes? You're solid.

They're not going punch you out, or ban you, for asking a question :)

B9a579a02921868db5098bfa99f8221c

(748)

on June 22, 2012
at 02:06 AM

Thanks, i guess i know this is the way to go, im just so much more comfortable passively consuming then advocating for change. my first step perhaps.

Ce7e28769d92d5de5533e775b1de966e

on June 22, 2012
at 02:37 PM

Always be an advocate for something you believe in - even if it scares you a little. That's how change begins. I support you being strong and getting in there! Go go! :)

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4b5be253ac1981c690689cab7e4bf06d

(3043)

on June 21, 2012
at 03:53 AM

There is a difference between a restaurant using outside food, and changing in response to their customers. You can request that they use real butter each time you go in. Eventually, the owner will know that it's not just a one off request, and probably test it out.

I got a coffee shop to change their milk from ultra pasteurized to regular pasteurized using this same method.

F5f742cc9228eb5804114d0f3be4e587

(7660)

on June 22, 2012
at 04:31 AM

@killer Nibs - Yes, THIS. So true. A restaurant's choices are determined by the lowest per serving costs. Using real butter for everything obviously makes that not possible.

B9a579a02921868db5098bfa99f8221c

(748)

on June 22, 2012
at 02:01 AM

yeah i have kind of been trying to do this, asking for "butter", but the term in so interchangeable that they assume i mean whatever yellow goop they usually spread.

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32f5749fa6cf7adbeb0b0b031ba82b46

(41757)

on June 21, 2012
at 12:25 PM

You should get more than just yourself to speak up. Supposedly one person making a request is like 20 people actually wanting it, only 5% give a shit enough to speak up. So round up similarly minded folks and make suggestions/requests. Get 5-6 people total, that's "representing" over 100 customers.

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B4e1fa6a8cf43d2b69d97a99dfca262c

(10255)

on June 21, 2012
at 02:53 AM

assure the owner you are willing to pay more for quality ingredients and then pay up when the change comes. if enough people ask, they might change.

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91882203467f64f68f25f58f1caeee68

(1017)

on June 21, 2012
at 12:19 PM

Try to convince him that customers would be more satisfied if they used real butter (food taste better, healthier, etc). All he ultimately cares about is customer satisfaction, which leads to profit. Also as someone else indicated make it a recurring request instead of a random one off ask.

B9a579a02921868db5098bfa99f8221c

(748)

on June 22, 2012
at 02:09 AM

yeah, i think i can do this. we have plenty of chats about plenty of things, im just conscious of telling someone how to run their business. even though this isn't what i will be doing...

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F0e558010a2ecb31fa37b7c491596b8e

(3850)

on June 21, 2012
at 03:35 AM

You can ask the server if they will fry your eggs in butter. if they do, double the tip. If they refuse, I guess go with poached.

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Cfc7dee889a66db9cd76c4f348109294

on June 21, 2012
at 04:35 PM

How to ask for things politely:

A gluten free bakery opened near me. I found this letter that was written by someone saying they loved the idea for the bakery, but would they be considering other, more paleo ingredients. Here's how it went down.

http://laquillen.wordpress.com/2011/07/22/dear-happy-tart/

Good luck!

Fd70d71f4f8195c3a098eda4fc817d4f

(8014)

on June 21, 2012
at 05:11 PM

Ooooh...I live in Springfield. Looks good!! Tried to go to that awesome butcher on Mt. Vernon Ave on Monday but they were closed. :( Can't wait to check it out. I've heard great things and their website is insane. http://www.letsmeatontheavenue.com/

B9a579a02921868db5098bfa99f8221c

(748)

on June 22, 2012
at 02:19 AM

maybe i could nail a letter on their door, ala Martin Luther 1517.

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E95216c62a14d21c371fcbf2fed8469b

(1867)

on June 21, 2012
at 04:36 AM

Too much liability to use things customers bring in. I've made suggestions and have noticed more healthy foods at the cafeteria. It helps if you aren't the only who cares though. I am going start campaigning to change margarine to butter at work. Not that it'll do any good. I work in a nursing home and it's bought and paid by the US government big pharma interests. Plus I don't eat eggs anymore but it kills me to see what the entrees are :(

03a4ec34751186201a56da298ac843ce

(4100)

on June 22, 2012
at 05:34 AM

I go to this deli and their menu says "butter." I asked about it, and the owners lied and told me the glop I was staring at was butter. I told him that butter is a solid at room temp and he finally showed me a tub of butter flavored fraken-margarine. I would love to get them to use real butter.

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