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I, Caveman on discovery channel what did you think?

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Created October 03, 2011 at 2:24 AM

Discovery Channel had a 2 hour special living like a caveman. What I got from watching the show was that living outdoors didn't matter what you ate. Question: would you ever take a challenge for 10 days surviving like a caveman? What's your feedback on the show? What did you get that inspired you from watching it? Thank you guys

BTW - has anyone ate Elk?

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on December 01, 2011
at 02:57 PM

PS I marinated an elk roast before cooking and it was very tasty and tender.

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on December 01, 2011
at 02:56 PM

Did anyone read the Clan of the Cave Bear series? That was a good depiction of hunter gatherer life.

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on December 01, 2011
at 02:04 PM

real life they couldn't quit

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on December 01, 2011
at 02:03 PM

Probably would have banished her or made her a slave, to fetch and carry everything.. Caveman rules #1 you don't work, you Don't eat..

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on November 22, 2011
at 03:03 AM

I think the idea was to take 'modern' man away from his 'modern' world and see if they could actually survive as a caveman.

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on November 22, 2011
at 02:59 AM

If you haven't seen this you may find it of interest.. http://robbwolf.com/2011/10/12/i-caveman-after-party-part-1/

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on October 18, 2011
at 01:11 AM

The whole thing is free on youtube if you look hard enough

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on October 18, 2011
at 01:08 AM

No, it wasn't cool to watch the animal die for hours while we had to wait till it was safe to approach. Yes, It was on a ranch that I believe I remember being over 200,000 acres. The herd had been released about a month before. It took hours for us to crawl up close to the herd. It was shear luck, what can I say. For the love I have with animals, it was painful for me to be part of it and I still have those same feelings about it. The Atlatl went into the neck and when he swung his neck down, he pushed the head through an artery and then we just waited. I was distraught, but stuck it out.

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on October 12, 2011
at 08:25 PM

Yeah, some of the kids in the group I was with were even sent to pull up the stiffer grass where the animals bled -- it was soaked out later on and added to the glue pot (yup, they still made traditional glue -- OMG what a smell that has!!!)

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on October 12, 2011
at 07:56 PM

If only they had a hunter-gatherers' series :)

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on October 11, 2011
at 07:16 PM

It did bother me on the show to see how much of the elk was left behind. Really wish they could've utilized all of it. But since they only needed a 3 day supply of food, and didn't have enough hands to carry it all back, I guess that is what happens...

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on October 11, 2011
at 05:47 PM

Did PETA send you trolls or something?

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on October 11, 2011
at 05:46 PM

I'm inclined to agree with you about the wildlife not being spooked by man.

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on October 11, 2011
at 05:44 PM

This is pretty amazing, where are all these new users being sent from to try and tear down this show?

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on October 11, 2011
at 06:50 AM

You are too kind. Were you the producer or the grip for this travesty? Congrats Rob for spearing a tame animal in the throat with the cameras rolling. More like an episode of cops or 'caught on camera' or 'Americas dumbest'. Legendary indeed! Next hunting stop, the zoo. Just be sure at least one person on the crew knows how to put the animal down after you wound it. Still unclear what actually brought that animal down: ass-istance

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on October 11, 2011
at 06:23 AM

Maybe you didn't watch that animal die while these a#%holes poked with spears. Why didn't we see that animal put out of it's misery. Any DOW agent present would have arrested these people. This was on a private ranch w a tame herd

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on October 09, 2011
at 10:00 PM

I think elk & moose are vegetarian, but sea lion is not? I think we tend to like to eat non-meat-eaters. Tuna a major exception :-)

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on October 09, 2011
at 06:55 PM

Seems like more than a few people have been sent to register accounts here and spread some veggie disinformation no? Why this thread in particular I wonder? Because it's so damning to the whole idea of vegetarianism?

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on October 09, 2011
at 06:50 PM

Maybe you should take some grammar books with you on the hunt next time.

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on October 09, 2011
at 06:33 PM

Uh oh...the vegetarian disinformation squad has arrived.

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on October 09, 2011
at 03:20 PM

Good for you! "Atlatl" is the name of the spear throwing device, and with practice is a deadly and accurate weapon, but takes many months to learn well. see: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Atlatl Keep hunting for meat and the vegetables in your area!

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on October 09, 2011
at 03:16 PM

I think we must first define the term/word "VEGETARIAN". You have your grocery store type who can push that cart down the aisle and fill it up with greens and such... but a "TRUE" vegetarian is one that can step outside her/his home and start picking, digging, etc.... food in their backyard! The people on the show simply lacked the knowledge of what was edible or not, and to call anyone in that group a true vegetarian is an insult to those of us who know the difference.

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on October 09, 2011
at 03:13 PM

I agree that for a "viable" and "realistic" show you'd need a group of trained survivalists, not some grocery store vegetarians and wannabe hunters. This group did not have the skills, or knowledge to survive in the wild, and it's not their fault, but those of whomever produced the show! This group would be dead in a month.

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on October 09, 2011
at 03:10 PM

Elk is not "gamey" at all! Elk is a very lean meat that you can not, should not, cook like hamburger. If your elk meat was gamey, it was either not cooked properly, or whomever butchered it botched the job!

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on October 09, 2011
at 03:07 PM

It is well known that the primary source of food for early humans such as the caveman was vegetable based. This is not a true or realistic depiction of caveman life.

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on October 09, 2011
at 03:05 PM

The person on the show claiming to be a vegetarian had no knowledge of the vegetation she was walking, climbing, sitting on and around. She was obviously a "Grocery Store" vegetarian. A "True" vegetarian knows and understand the vegetable world she lives in, sch can walk out her door and easily find a healthy meal in the environment she lived in. Those groups/tribes/families of the "Caveman" era were well organized and worked together in all things, or they simply died. This group was lazy and did not utilize their time at all well. This is not a good depiction of caveman life.

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on October 06, 2011
at 07:23 PM

FWIW, Robb trained with the atlatl before the show. But yes, it was a lucky shot. But that doesn't make it staged.

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on October 06, 2011
at 07:22 PM

The projectiles used in atlatls are refered to as "darts", and the effective range of an atlatl is pretty much maxed at about 30 yards. You can throw the dart further, but even in trained hands, anything beyond 30 yards is very hard to hit with accuracy. It's about the same for bows.

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on October 04, 2011
at 02:24 AM

Awesome. Power to our youth

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on October 04, 2011
at 02:02 AM

this is the best post

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on October 04, 2011
at 02:00 AM

this is the best post on paleohacks

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on October 04, 2011
at 01:16 AM

Maybe he was just using his teeth as tools.

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on October 03, 2011
at 10:44 PM

didn't see the show but grew up eating elk as my grandpa and uncle, and eventually my cousins, were/are hunters. what they hunted was their main source of protein. i like elk - a little gamey of course but tasty. venison now, yum yum - cooked with juniper berries is aces.

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on October 03, 2011
at 06:23 PM

hee hee. that's true LB.

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on October 03, 2011
at 06:14 PM

atlatl and they are pretty accurate

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on October 03, 2011
at 06:11 PM

I bought it for $4 off Amazon. Totally worth it.

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on October 03, 2011
at 06:03 PM

Oooh, iTunes! Finally a reason to buy a video off of iTunes!

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on October 03, 2011
at 05:47 PM

man, those atlatls really wanted the spotlight...

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on October 03, 2011
at 04:49 PM

The audience I was with dubbed him "Donut Bob" due to his lack of dentition. He is obviously not feeding himself with the atlatl...

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on October 03, 2011
at 04:38 PM

Now that's a good idea.

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on October 03, 2011
at 04:30 PM

It would have been interesting to know the diets and habits of the participants beforehand. I'll bet the sugar-burners were having a tougher time.

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on October 03, 2011
at 04:26 PM

Reninds me that I have some ground elk in the freezer, in a nice square package that I carried home from the grocery store in my car. I felt luxuriously guilty watching the show in the comfort of my bedroom while knitting Swiss boucle yarn into a fashionable winter wrap, after eating a full dinner.

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on October 03, 2011
at 04:22 PM

hunger is a powrful force. If you have ever bonked, you know it really messes with your mind.

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on October 03, 2011
at 04:21 PM

Yeah, I agree re the production. Think it was a missed opportunity. Too much of the whiny folks and tool little of the cool stuff/expert commentary. Biggest problem was trying to tell a 10-day story in 2 hours.

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on October 03, 2011
at 03:54 PM

I wondered too if this was at a game farm, but it did not look like it so I assumed it was early archery season. Agree about the water storage. Bears would be all over that like a cheap suit. And they should have fished more and dried that too.

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on October 03, 2011
at 03:50 PM

+1 for zoo humans :)

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on October 03, 2011
at 03:49 PM

They would need a waiver for CO but a few other states allow atlatls for game including deer.

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on October 03, 2011
at 03:07 PM

Apparently you didn't actually watch it? Atlatls are not sticks with rocks attached. And if you had watched it, you'd know that even the expert commentators said it was amazing that they were able to down that elk with an atlatl.

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on October 03, 2011
at 02:15 PM

Aww, tools is one of my favorite words to describe a very certain type of guy. ;)

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on October 03, 2011
at 01:57 PM

I wasn't necessarily pimping iTunes; Amazon or direct through cable or any other legitimate delivery system work fine for me. My gripe is the torrent downloads.

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on October 03, 2011
at 12:43 PM

I have the discovery channel so am already supporting, just sharing info for all. Besides i-tunes? plenty of people outside the US, who don't even have that option, even if they wanted to. I'd much rather send my money to Amazon, who also have it http://goo.gl/V266w

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on October 03, 2011
at 12:31 PM

I have the discovery channel so am already supporting, just sharing info for all. Besides itunes? plenty of people outside the US, who don't even have that option, even if they wanted to.

E06dcdb3f856057025e9776e038d8072

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on October 03, 2011
at 11:59 AM

Or you could ignore the torrents and go buy it off iTunes, thus getting the show both legally and supporting the folks who spent their valuable time making it.

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on October 03, 2011
at 11:20 AM

anyone familiar with torrents can find this show quite easily.

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on October 03, 2011
at 05:47 AM

after u hit puberty you'll stop using the word "tool" to describe people.

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on October 03, 2011
at 04:51 AM

D'oh! Was this on already?! I wanted to see it and forgot to record it. Darn.

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on October 03, 2011
at 04:03 AM

I think it was filmed in mid to late july

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on October 03, 2011
at 03:05 AM

Oh, and w/r/t exotics I've had elk, buffalo, alpaca, guinea pig, snake, ostrich, Barracuda, and tarantula. All were delicious in their own way. I was offered "monkey butt", when living in the Ecuadorian jungle, and decided that was where I draw my personal line in the sand.

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on October 03, 2011
at 03:10 PM

I'd much rather watch Morgan Spurlock do his 30 day McDonalds stunt again and then watch Robb train and rehab him on a 30 day paleo challenge.

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on October 03, 2011
at 04:38 PM

Now that's a good idea.

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on October 03, 2011
at 03:25 AM

I enjoyed it, the casting was a bit weak. Having a vegetarian on the program was interesting, but she really doesn't get it, that if you don't eat meat, you die. With the experiment only lasting for 10 day, it made it way to easy on people to just be lazy throughout.

I hunt elk all the time, love it. It's my second most favorite game meat second only to Moose. I did notice at the start of part two the disclaimer said that they got assistance in the elk hunt to ensure the animal wasn't put through undo misery. So I'm curious as to what that assistance actually was. Seeing the bulls in velvet, looks like the production was around late May to June. That being the case I am curious if the production got a special waver or tag from the State of Colorado since using such a primitive weapon is illegal everywhere, and there are no hunting seasons in those months. Maybe with the exception for depredation. Archery season wouldn't start till late August.

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on October 03, 2011
at 04:03 AM

I think it was filmed in mid to late july

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on October 03, 2011
at 03:49 PM

They would need a waiver for CO but a few other states allow atlatls for game including deer.

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on October 09, 2011
at 03:05 PM

The person on the show claiming to be a vegetarian had no knowledge of the vegetation she was walking, climbing, sitting on and around. She was obviously a "Grocery Store" vegetarian. A "True" vegetarian knows and understand the vegetable world she lives in, sch can walk out her door and easily find a healthy meal in the environment she lived in. Those groups/tribes/families of the "Caveman" era were well organized and worked together in all things, or they simply died. This group was lazy and did not utilize their time at all well. This is not a good depiction of caveman life.

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on December 01, 2011
at 02:56 PM

Did anyone read the Clan of the Cave Bear series? That was a good depiction of hunter gatherer life.

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on December 01, 2011
at 02:57 PM

PS I marinated an elk roast before cooking and it was very tasty and tender.

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on October 03, 2011
at 02:27 PM

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on October 09, 2011
at 07:02 PM

I for one really enjoyed the show.

Everyone saying, "They should've done this or that...cavemen wouldn't have done that!" needs to take a step back, take a deep breath and realize THAT WASN'T THE POINT. I for one, was truly energized at the creativity, and spark, and joie de vivre (no matter how much outside/artificial help they may have received) of the more driven members of the cast. 99% percent of Americans are completely detached from that lifestyle, and it was heartening to see "modern" humans adapting in such a short time, to an almost alien way of life. It gives me great hope for humanity. Congratulations also to Robb for that legendary atlatl shot!

I'm wondering why there are so many new Paleohackers espousing the virtues of vegetarianism, GATHERING, etc...It also seems that for some reason, this thread in particular has been targeted. Perhaps because the show and the response to it are so damning to the very idea of survival in a vegetarian way of life? Modern indeed....more like artificial.

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on October 11, 2011
at 06:50 AM

You are too kind. Were you the producer or the grip for this travesty? Congrats Rob for spearing a tame animal in the throat with the cameras rolling. More like an episode of cops or 'caught on camera' or 'Americas dumbest'. Legendary indeed! Next hunting stop, the zoo. Just be sure at least one person on the crew knows how to put the animal down after you wound it. Still unclear what actually brought that animal down: ass-istance

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on October 11, 2011
at 05:47 PM

Did PETA send you trolls or something?

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on October 11, 2011
at 05:44 PM

This is pretty amazing, where are all these new users being sent from to try and tear down this show?

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on October 03, 2011
at 03:02 PM

Holy cats, the whiny individuals in the group were doing my head in.....a curious thought is caveman were more than likely cannibals (plenty of evidence for that)...and they were getting pretty hungry in the show, Not many guesses about who would have been on the menu in the worst case scenario! I would be curious to how things would have been different if one hazda or amazonian indian had been in the group. i.e someone who lives that way as a way of life not just all zoo humans in an experiment.

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on October 03, 2011
at 03:50 PM

+1 for zoo humans :)

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on October 03, 2011
at 01:36 PM

I think the casting was odd, though I liked that they didn't promote anyone's own books/causes/etc. and kept it about the show itself.

I also think it underscored the importance of meat in an ancestral diet. I mean they could have lived for some time off that elk, and their days would have been filled with eating meat. Every conceivable part of it. I don't know why they had that vegetarian girl on there.

My final thought is that it shows the importance of being grateful for eating meat, and taking another animal's life in order to thrive.

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on October 09, 2011
at 06:33 PM

Uh oh...the vegetarian disinformation squad has arrived.

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on October 09, 2011
at 03:07 PM

It is well known that the primary source of food for early humans such as the caveman was vegetable based. This is not a true or realistic depiction of caveman life.

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on October 03, 2011
at 05:45 AM

I don't get to watch a ton of tv and I thought it was incredible--also a microcosm of everyday life...some working hard and others complaining, a vegetarian among a bunch of meat eaters, emotional reactions coming out due to extreme conditions. I loved it--factual misgivings on the hunt or not.

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on October 11, 2011
at 05:04 PM

Everyone not actively involved in hunting or tool creation should have been foraging. There are many roots and berries that contain a high sugar content for energy required to survive.

Also, if you have been to real wilderness, I mean the kind where the local wildlife has not seen men in the last 10 years, you will find that most wildlife does not consider man a predator.

I have been in upper Canada where it was very easy to stalk game. It would still be difficult to get close enough to kill without a gun, but they aren't as skittish as one would encounter on a "normal" hunt.

Also, if you can find a river, you can catch fish. Even if you have to dam it up (a lot of work), you can eat fish. Spear fishing would be the easiest.

Someone should have been making weapons full-time. No one should ever have been laying around relaxing. Those 10 people would have died shortly after the 10 days were up.

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on October 11, 2011
at 05:46 PM

I'm inclined to agree with you about the wildlife not being spooked by man.

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on October 03, 2011
at 04:21 PM

Robb is a hero, but Atlatl Bob needs his own mini-series.

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on October 03, 2011
at 04:49 PM

The audience I was with dubbed him "Donut Bob" due to his lack of dentition. He is obviously not feeding himself with the atlatl...

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on October 04, 2011
at 01:16 AM

Maybe he was just using his teeth as tools.

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on October 03, 2011
at 02:46 PM

The elk they killed had to be pen-raised. I think they are on someone's ranch. I'll bet the elk are in a large enclosure and habituated to people. No way they could legally hunt an elk in the summer. Also, storing the meat underwater? It will be ruined in 3 days at best. They should have cut it in little strips and dried/smoked it.

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on October 03, 2011
at 03:54 PM

I wondered too if this was at a game farm, but it did not look like it so I assumed it was early archery season. Agree about the water storage. Bears would be all over that like a cheap suit. And they should have fished more and dried that too.

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on October 03, 2011
at 07:46 AM

The filter she designed would have done a good job, all things considered. Large grasses to strain large particles without adding to sediment. Activate Carcoal is a big part of many commercial filters out today Katadyn, for one) - will really improve flavor, which was the whole purpose at that point after boiling. I have boiled water in ziplocks using heated stones, so skins will definelty work,if a little flavorful. Know what you are talking about before speaking (something else you might reailze post-puberty). Over all good show, although the elk was, anyway you cut it, a lucky fluke, if authentic. But sometimes it is luck that seperate the quick from the dead.

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on October 18, 2011
at 12:56 AM

I have been reading most of the comments. The hunting tool was called an Atlatl. Required some serious practice. Sadly, I watched the Elk suffer as it bled out for a few hours even before we could make that final kill into the lungs. There was many, many hours spent eating worms, ants and lots of vegetation and Cat tail roots ect. There was a lot of time where most of the group walked hours trying to find other sources of foods. The time of year was not the time of revived vegetation or any kind of berries ect. We did smoke some elk, but we ate whatever we could. We knew the chances of Bear coming to get the rest of the Elk from the water, but it was our only resource at the time. There was SO MUCH MORE footage that could of revealed more of our survival tactics, but sadly there was so much that cut out in editing to fit the program. Apart from the skins that were provided, the original shelter and the stomach water bladder for water, everything else we made. We did make a lot of string from reeds, used animal tendons to secure arrow heads onto darts. But, I guess in the end, we did get help from Atlatl Bob. He is certainly different, but really funny and informative. All I can say is that there was a lot of things that did happen and would of made the show even more compelling. I've done a lot of survivalist exercises in my past, but this one really took me to another level of experience.

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on October 09, 2011
at 03:55 PM

I've eaten elk and moose when I lived up in Alaska. I've also had the pleasure of watching a couple of subsistence hunts done in the traditional manner while I was in the area for a long stretch handling a few births (back in my subsistence midwifery days). These were "exhibition" hunts that were set up each year, using something very similar to the atlal, which was used to throw a harpoon-type implement. They took down 2 moose and an elk with them, over the course of a 3-day hunt. Very, very impressive (and certainly something well beyond MY eye-hand-coordination capabilities). It was also fascinating being part of the group as the kill was prepared for transport. Those of us on that team SKINNED the animals at the kill-site, as well as dressing them and prepping the internal organs. Everything was saved, including the stomach and intestines (which were later used to store rendered fat from a sea-lion hunt).

I liked elk and moose. Didn't really like sea-lion.

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on October 09, 2011
at 10:00 PM

I think elk & moose are vegetarian, but sea lion is not? I think we tend to like to eat non-meat-eaters. Tuna a major exception :-)

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(1648)

on October 11, 2011
at 07:16 PM

It did bother me on the show to see how much of the elk was left behind. Really wish they could've utilized all of it. But since they only needed a 3 day supply of food, and didn't have enough hands to carry it all back, I guess that is what happens...

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(12540)

on October 12, 2011
at 08:25 PM

Yeah, some of the kids in the group I was with were even sent to pull up the stiffer grass where the animals bled -- it was soaked out later on and added to the glue pot (yup, they still made traditional glue -- OMG what a smell that has!!!)

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on October 04, 2011
at 01:54 AM

it was all great and not but im 13 i could have done more then they did in 10 days they ack like it was 3 months like really 10 days u cant see how it changes thier lives in eney way when the hunter left it was like really i hunt and i never give up and the black lady is plain old stupid and what was the name of the throwing weapon they used

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(15976)

on October 04, 2011
at 02:24 AM

Awesome. Power to our youth

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(2797)

on October 04, 2011
at 02:00 AM

this is the best post on paleohacks

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(2797)

on October 04, 2011
at 02:02 AM

this is the best post

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(5639)

on October 09, 2011
at 06:50 PM

Maybe you should take some grammar books with you on the hunt next time.

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(0)

on October 09, 2011
at 03:20 PM

Good for you! "Atlatl" is the name of the spear throwing device, and with practice is a deadly and accurate weapon, but takes many months to learn well. see: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Atlatl Keep hunting for meat and the vegetables in your area!

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(20)

on October 03, 2011
at 07:29 PM

don't believe the kill shot with one spear from that distance . i think the kill was staged with these city buffoons

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(1906)

on October 06, 2011
at 07:23 PM

FWIW, Robb trained with the atlatl before the show. But yes, it was a lucky shot. But that doesn't make it staged.

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on October 03, 2011
at 07:20 PM

I liked the show because it made me think about how to survive in that situation. There could have been more creativity in the group: the people back at camp could have been making backpack baskets from willow and grasses to hold things like elk meat or other game for transport, so they would not have to move the whole group just to hunt. Also, the folks at camp could make an inventory of what is available and use it, like create clay pots in the fire for holding and heating water, thus making it more potable, and portable. They could locate roots to boil or other edible vegetation. With cooperation and division of labor, they might learn to get by, just as we do today.

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on December 01, 2011
at 06:56 PM

I would love to have been on that show. This is where we came from and we need to respect the cavemen. You do what ever you need to do to survive. Yes, some of them where to whiney and didn't need to be there.

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on November 06, 2011
at 01:09 AM

I still haven't watched the show, cuz it hasn't beed broadcasted in sweden yet... But I have seen thy trailer and liked it alot :) I think i'd take that challange but for a longer time. ( 1 Month - 1 Year ) And elk tastes awesome

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D72e9d21977363ea1850fa00555f151a

on October 09, 2011
at 03:36 PM

I just watched it yesterday and the only highlight was seeing Robb Wolf. I pretty much spent the whole time wishing they would show more of him. The rest of the people were irritating me with their actions and dumb comments.

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on October 04, 2011
at 01:38 AM

Loved the show. Please continue. I would like to see more episodes in different locations.

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on October 03, 2011
at 08:14 PM

Did anyone notice the way thw elk was laying on the ground with its legs straight out...I have killed alot of large game and never had one die like that. looked bloated and stiff...and totally fake. I mean...really who shoots a elk in the neck and the elk just collapses...even with a modern compound bow this is unlikely. That thing would run quite a ways before it gave up. I think they faked the whole thing and just threw some fake blood around. The show as a whole was amusing but I was disapointing that they tried to play the kill off a a great feat.

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on October 03, 2011
at 05:46 PM

What was the name of the arrow and stick combination thing that they used? Is that for real? How far could you accurately throw a large arrow?

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on October 03, 2011
at 06:14 PM

atlatl and they are pretty accurate

Da8e709acde269e8b8bfbc09d1737841

(1906)

on October 06, 2011
at 07:22 PM

The projectiles used in atlatls are refered to as "darts", and the effective range of an atlatl is pretty much maxed at about 30 yards. You can throw the dart further, but even in trained hands, anything beyond 30 yards is very hard to hit with accuracy. It's about the same for bows.

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on October 03, 2011
at 05:34 PM

I think this was a private herd on a ranch in Colorado.

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on October 03, 2011
at 02:30 PM

I liked it a lot. As a vegetarian, I found myself wondering why someone would think they could survive caveman style without eating meat. I know that I would not sign on for an experiment like this because of that. I did think that theh way people left was sort of abrupt. I was also cheering for Robert, so was pretty let down when he was gone in under 90 minutes. He seemed to me to be someone who could have made it to the very end. I know hunger plays a part but 7days in and two people leaving voluntarily? Seems a little strange to me...

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(8989)

on October 03, 2011
at 04:22 PM

hunger is a powrful force. If you have ever bonked, you know it really messes with your mind.

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(8989)

on October 03, 2011
at 04:30 PM

It would have been interesting to know the diets and habits of the participants beforehand. I'll bet the sugar-burners were having a tougher time.

39a6397ed34ab908762ef11195c5aa86

(0)

on October 09, 2011
at 03:16 PM

I think we must first define the term/word "VEGETARIAN". You have your grocery store type who can push that cart down the aisle and fill it up with greens and such... but a "TRUE" vegetarian is one that can step outside her/his home and start picking, digging, etc.... food in their backyard! The people on the show simply lacked the knowledge of what was edible or not, and to call anyone in that group a true vegetarian is an insult to those of us who know the difference.

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on October 03, 2011
at 02:16 PM

While I think the program gave you a pretty good indication of what living in the wilderness and trying to survive would be like, most of the people in this experiment would have perished over a 4 week period, unsupervised. Going out for 2 weeks didn't looke like a picnic, but they were monitored the whole time and could "tap out". I did enjoy the show though. I missed the very beginning of the first episode, so I don't know what kind of prepration or instruction they were given before heading out. Some people looked like they had some instruction in flint knapping, fire starting, etc. To be dressed like that, there would have been skilled hunters in the group. I think it would have been interesting to send them out for 4 weeks with 1 or 2 primitive survival experts and see if they could be turned into a cohesive "caveman" family group.

39a6397ed34ab908762ef11195c5aa86

(0)

on October 09, 2011
at 03:13 PM

I agree that for a "viable" and "realistic" show you'd need a group of trained survivalists, not some grocery store vegetarians and wannabe hunters. This group did not have the skills, or knowledge to survive in the wild, and it's not their fault, but those of whomever produced the show! This group would be dead in a month.

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5d0c6d71e394f2cd823603ebd873659d

(0)

on December 01, 2011
at 02:00 PM

First...If you think it looks easy try it, second the Elk kill was probably staged, like white on rice the ASPCA would have torn the show down. and where was PETA?...lol

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on November 21, 2011
at 08:24 PM

i do enjoy Curiosity, however the I, Caveman episode is made out as though the way cavemen lived is unknown. i thought about this for about 5 seconds and it occured to me that there are still human beings around the world who still live like the cavemen. Their called tribes and can be found on every contenant on earth. Would have been simpler to have a camera crew tail an African Tribe or a Tribe of Australian Aboriginals for a week. But then i suppose that would not make for good tv. All it shows us is that todays academics and tradesmen are not cavemen. I had no idea and am now glad that i am somewhat more knowledgable

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(5242)

on November 22, 2011
at 03:03 AM

I think the idea was to take 'modern' man away from his 'modern' world and see if they could actually survive as a caveman.

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(571)

on October 15, 2011
at 10:48 PM

how to buy the episode outside the US? Itunes and amazon doesn't work in my location. I don't use torrents!

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on October 13, 2011
at 09:47 PM

I enjoyed what I saw of the icaveman program, but missed the beginning. I noticed one very important finding that was barely mentioned by the professionals: The participants spontaneously produced artwork illustrating the animal they killed, thanked and ate, after filling their bellies. I have heard many hypotheses about how, why, when and where paleolithic people produced petroglyphs and other artwork. I have never heard that it might be a casual remembrance of the animal's form after quartering, preserving and feasting on it. I also thought that paleolithic people would have been better schooled in hunting strategy and trapping.

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09c0e914e685d6db42b5f990dd5cd657

on October 12, 2011
at 02:23 AM

Good Show. Even still, the show glossed over the difficult reality of primitive living. I could use more of the show.

Sure some of it was hokey but much of it was legit. I speak this from some level of experience.

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Af31b5a2186207b75fcbc8858b782212

on October 11, 2011
at 02:13 PM

Even though watching Robb was pretty cool this show pretty much exposed "reality" TV for what it really is: an opportunity to create forced drama. That Amy character was a total joke, probably cast due to her overwhelming ability to whine. The whole experiment was set up to fail, I mean two whole days worth of caveman training? Seriously? And oh, let's put a vegetarian in the group. Gee, what could possibly happen? There were so many holes in the premise of this show that I almost shut it off, but I stuck it through just to see how Robb played it out. He did not disappoint.

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(0)

on December 01, 2011
at 02:04 PM

real life they couldn't quit

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5ea61a12abf9a73671a1f44e0ca28566

(0)

on October 11, 2011
at 06:22 AM

what a joke. i suppose it could and did entertain the lemmings who know no better but the skilled outdoorsman among us call bullshit.!!notice while they are busy pathethically crying and butchering the elk notice the herd grazing in the backgrund 30-40 yards away from them as if not a care in the world. lol silly show but comical

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C05e79a14bc04be66c59fb6eb65cf05b

(-2)

on October 11, 2011
at 06:12 AM

Really? The 'bowhunter' walks up on a wounded animal and throws a spear into it's back! This was disgraceful, obviously filmed at the 'pet and shoot' ranch. Those animals were trained, sedated or both. Impossible to walk up on elk in a meadow in the wild. Even in estes park they might trample you Hear the that sucking sound? That is Spurlocks street credibility getting flushed. Was torturing a tame elk worth it Morgan?

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9b8e43efdf23c17b226fae98658d783e

on October 11, 2011
at 03:07 AM

I thought the show was OK, but it should have been longer. The veg chic was just rediculous, real cavemen would have probably eaten her.

5d0c6d71e394f2cd823603ebd873659d

(0)

on December 01, 2011
at 02:03 PM

Probably would have banished her or made her a slave, to fetch and carry everything.. Caveman rules #1 you don't work, you Don't eat..

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on October 09, 2011
at 05:49 PM

Just watched the show and was wondering, cavemen were hunters GATHERS. The people back at camp should have been out looking for nuts, berries, flowers, pine cones, and even maybe fish considering how close they were to a river. This group would have not survived past the 10 days they were out in the woods.

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(5242)

on November 22, 2011
at 02:59 AM

If you haven't seen this you may find it of interest.. http://robbwolf.com/2011/10/12/i-caveman-after-party-part-1/

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39a6397ed34ab908762ef11195c5aa86

on October 09, 2011
at 02:56 PM

Not very well done, and here is why. The caveman existed for many hundreds of years and they did so with a great knowledge of the world around them.

They would never send out a hunting party and leave the rest at a camp doing nothing.
Everyone in the camp, including children worked towards the benefit of the family group or tribe. This was NOT a reasonable/viable caveman experiment in any way, shape, or form.

Those at base/camp would be gathering the numerous edible vegetables in the area that they totally ignored on the show. Where they are located is full of wild edibles, and they don't require meat, and could easily survive for 10 days at that time of the year with the knowledge that cavemen had.

The hunters would be experts in the bow or equivalent. These people had no knowledge or practical use of such devices. To make this more realistic those people on the show would need many days/weeks of practice prior to taping the show.

They were not well organized and did not fully utilize those in their tribe. This group of "cavemen" could not survive in a grocery store!

Yes.. there are people who could, quite easily, survive, and even thrive in the wilderness with tools the caveman of the period had available to them.

I'm sorry, but this was a very poor "reality" show.

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on October 08, 2011
at 03:39 AM

Atlatl darts travel at 90 to 100 miles per hour. With a sharp projectile point attached they would penetrate deep and could kill an animal, especially hitting a vital organ. But it would be very challenging to make that shot, and I think an animal struck in the neck would take a long while to bleed and die. I agree that it's surprising they could pull it off. I do wonder what help they may have received.

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21f4a0425223acc227670cf209b8ef37

(20)

on October 03, 2011
at 07:34 PM

the device used to kill the elk should have entered the elk at a downward trajectiry instead it entered as if thrusted upwards into the neck??? did someone else kill the anima or was it on the ground at the time???

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B5cc60ce970d2efed2de1f01c3b33e86

(410)

on October 03, 2011
at 03:17 AM

I though it was cool. I would love to try a challenge like that. Also, I have had elk. It's very good but you have to have a taste for gamey meat.

39a6397ed34ab908762ef11195c5aa86

(0)

on October 09, 2011
at 03:10 PM

Elk is not "gamey" at all! Elk is a very lean meat that you can not, should not, cook like hamburger. If your elk meat was gamey, it was either not cooked properly, or whomever butchered it botched the job!

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(4878)

on October 03, 2011
at 02:59 AM

Liked it. Didn't LOVE it. Of course, I was cheering for Robb.

I think there were major casting issues that they had to edit 'around' and just a general weakness in production. It straddled the space between Survivor and "Man vs Wild"/ Survivorman..trying to be too much, succeeding at being less than either.

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(4878)

on October 03, 2011
at 03:05 AM

Oh, and w/r/t exotics I've had elk, buffalo, alpaca, guinea pig, snake, ostrich, Barracuda, and tarantula. All were delicious in their own way. I was offered "monkey butt", when living in the Ecuadorian jungle, and decided that was where I draw my personal line in the sand.

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on October 03, 2011
at 04:21 PM

Yeah, I agree re the production. Think it was a missed opportunity. Too much of the whiny folks and tool little of the cool stuff/expert commentary. Biggest problem was trying to tell a 10-day story in 2 hours.

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C05e79a14bc04be66c59fb6eb65cf05b

(-2)

on October 11, 2011
at 06:29 AM

P.S. F#???K YOU Morgan and crew! Hope it was worth it

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on October 03, 2011
at 05:06 AM

Killing that elk with a stick with a rock attached was total B.S. These nine clowns wandering around wearing animal skins would have NO chance of EVER killing a live healthy elk. I have a feeling the 'assistance' these nine clowns received involved the Fish and Game Wardens darting the elk with tranquilizers...then the clowns walked up crying as they stabbed the tranquilized elk with sticks. I have hunted deer and elk with rifles, and bagging a big game animal (even with a rifle) is very difficult. NO way do I believe these idiots brought down an adult elk with a stick. This entire 'caveman' TV program is ridiculous.

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(614)

on October 03, 2011
at 03:07 PM

Apparently you didn't actually watch it? Atlatls are not sticks with rocks attached. And if you had watched it, you'd know that even the expert commentators said it was amazing that they were able to down that elk with an atlatl.

C05e79a14bc04be66c59fb6eb65cf05b

(-2)

on October 11, 2011
at 06:23 AM

Maybe you didn't watch that animal die while these a#%holes poked with spears. Why didn't we see that animal put out of it's misery. Any DOW agent present would have arrested these people. This was on a private ranch w a tame herd

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on October 18, 2011
at 01:08 AM

No, it wasn't cool to watch the animal die for hours while we had to wait till it was safe to approach. Yes, It was on a ranch that I believe I remember being over 200,000 acres. The herd had been released about a month before. It took hours for us to crawl up close to the herd. It was shear luck, what can I say. For the love I have with animals, it was painful for me to be part of it and I still have those same feelings about it. The Atlatl went into the neck and when he swung his neck down, he pushed the head through an artery and then we just waited. I was distraught, but stuck it out.

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(8)

on October 03, 2011
at 03:57 AM

its total crap

expecting them to boil water with skins?

the "water filter" that thing dose not filter anything

hunting big game? you dont survive off big game its the small critters that you hunt, there is no freezers.

wtf is with there face paint? yes thats going to camo youre big ass furrs as well

bunch of tools that want to be on tv.

7e746be2f0e550a8cd7df881322ae705

(18701)

on October 03, 2011
at 02:15 PM

Aww, tools is one of my favorite words to describe a very certain type of guy. ;)

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on October 03, 2011
at 05:47 AM

after u hit puberty you'll stop using the word "tool" to describe people.

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(12407)

on October 03, 2011
at 05:47 PM

man, those atlatls really wanted the spotlight...

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on October 03, 2011
at 06:23 PM

hee hee. that's true LB.

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