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I've drifted more and more towards carnivorism... is this common?

Answered on August 19, 2014
Created July 28, 2012 at 10:55 PM

I've been paleo for 9 months and it has been great. I lost nearly 40 pounds (I'm 5'7" and 148 lbs; used to be 185 lbs.), and I have had a number of other symptoms disappear (heartburn, insomnia, moodiness, etc.) I started out with what I think most people would think of as a "standard" paleo diet: a variety of muscle meats, some eggs, lots of veggies, some fruit, and some nuts.

Of course, I think we all do some tweaking as we learn to read our bodies better, so after getting the hang of eating paleo. I found myself not buying or eating things that I just didn't feel like eating.

The first example is fruit. I just don't really like fruit. So I never buy it or go out of my way to eat it. Next I got rid of nuts, which are so easy to binge on, and then they would make me feel sick. So I never really buy nuts anymore and I don't miss them at all.

Finally, veggies - I haven't eliminated veggies by any means, but I eat them much, much less than I used. I enjoy vegetables. It's just that I enjoy eating meat and eggs so much more, that I find myself saying "why bother" on many days, and I just eat eggs and meat. Basically, vegetables have started to become more something I add to my meal for variety or enjoyment. Veggies just don't give me the amazingly nourished feeling that I get after eating steak and eggs, and I'm surprised to find myself at the point where I feel they are unnecessary. At this point my diet consists of about 85-90% meat and eggs(and occasional liver), with the remaining 10-15% being vegetables. And some days it is more like 100% meat and eggs. When I exercise, I do find some extra carbs very helpful, so then I drink coconut water, but I don't do very much intense exercise; mostly walking.

I like eating this way, and it feels good, but I think even 6 months ago I wouldn't have imagined myself getting to the point of a virtual carnivore. Has anyone else had a similar experience - where you are finding yourself eating "what feels right", and are tending towards nearly all animal products?

Also, what might I be missing in my diet if I only ate pastured eggs, uncured bacon, grass-fed beef (muscle and liver), and a fish oil supplement?

44739854bd06eb5c32af5d33aa866864

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on July 30, 2012
at 03:45 PM

Meat (grass-fed, pastured) in general is the highest nutrient content per mass of any food... I believe liver tops the list. If you eat the whole animal, muscle as well as organs/bones(broth)/fat, and add in seafood for Omega 3s (salmon, oysters) you should be fine without a multivitamin, imo.

1da74185531d6d4c7182fb9ee417f97f

(10904)

on July 29, 2012
at 08:42 PM

This is pretty much my diet too except I occasionally get a real hankering for pickled veggies, acai/acerola smoothies and kale.

96440612cf0fcf366bf5ad8f776fca84

(19413)

on July 29, 2012
at 12:52 PM

Yup, when I feel like eating only meat, it's because for whatever reason, I don't feel an attraction to veggies. There are other days when I crave mixed greens, or kimchi, or whatever, I follow that craving. But yes, there were huge stretches of time where I couldn't stand to think about eating a salad or anything other than meat, and craved only meat. And other times where I craved greens, or crucifers.

96440612cf0fcf366bf5ad8f776fca84

(19413)

on July 29, 2012
at 12:50 PM

That's the beauty of organ meats and bone broths - if you consume the animal nose-to-tail, you get all the nutrients you need.

Ce41c230e8c2a4295db31aec3ef4b2ab

(32556)

on July 29, 2012
at 04:18 AM

Really?! :-) My DH is sad that I can't eat many of the great veggies he gets at the Farmers Market (FODMAPS-intolerant.)

19ff515e8ec02d95e8f2cf68c3ec1373

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on July 29, 2012
at 02:26 AM

I feel like I need to hang out with you. Awesomeness.

19ff515e8ec02d95e8f2cf68c3ec1373

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on July 29, 2012
at 12:49 AM

Indeed. +1 I live on meat, fat, scotch and the occasional tomato. (to go with my mayo-heavy dips)

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on July 28, 2012
at 11:53 PM

I don't eat much veg/fruit either. Just not a very good cost per calorie. I'll have some here and there for flavor or to have a variety of texture in my mouth, but I can do without. Don't see a problem with it.

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on July 28, 2012
at 11:12 PM

+1 for rubbing bacon on it

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Ce41c230e8c2a4295db31aec3ef4b2ab

(32556)

on July 29, 2012
at 01:08 AM

My body prefers mostly animal foods.

Meat, organs/gelatin, lard, seafood, eggs, cheese, butter, kefir, spinach & dark chocolate are my staple foods.

Margaritas are my fave drink (lime juice.)

Ce41c230e8c2a4295db31aec3ef4b2ab

(32556)

on July 29, 2012
at 04:18 AM

Really?! :-) My DH is sad that I can't eat many of the great veggies he gets at the Farmers Market (FODMAPS-intolerant.)

1da74185531d6d4c7182fb9ee417f97f

(10904)

on July 29, 2012
at 08:42 PM

This is pretty much my diet too except I occasionally get a real hankering for pickled veggies, acai/acerola smoothies and kale.

19ff515e8ec02d95e8f2cf68c3ec1373

(1207)

on July 29, 2012
at 02:26 AM

I feel like I need to hang out with you. Awesomeness.

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96440612cf0fcf366bf5ad8f776fca84

(19413)

on July 28, 2012
at 11:52 PM

I've got periods where I don't want any veggies or fruit at all. I've been known to put two 2/3rd lbs bison burger patties, roast leg of lamb (chopped), bacon bits, and some chicken in a bowl and top it with a bit of grassfed ghee and call that lunch. Meat salad! :)

Felt awesome the whole day and the next day.

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B6114a1980b1481fb18206064f3f4a4f

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on July 29, 2012
at 02:58 AM

My eating habits are very seasonal. I went "mostly carnivore" last winter because it felt good to eat meat and lots of fat. Now, with so many great fruits in season and my huge garden producing lots of veggies I'm eating a lot of fruits and veggies. I like being seasonal. It feels good to me, physically and emotionally, which is what I believe is important. I would encourage some vitamin-rich veggies now and then like greens, winter squash or red peppers. They can be prepared very simply and will help ensure you get all the nutrients you need.

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on July 29, 2012
at 01:39 AM

This is a perfect example of doing what you should do - reset your body and eat what your body wants. Don't force things into your face because they are optimum - this doesn't work when your body is healing but after eating a clean diet for long enough your body will show you what it wants.

Just don't become dogmatic with your carnivorism. If your body ever decides you need green salads and big bowls of fruit, listen to it - you will be doing yourself a favor.

Me for example. I tried doing carnivorism only to find it ruining me. I realized that, for now, I needed starches - going from 2 meals at McDonald's and one at the Taco Join to pure steak just wasn't for me. I started eating a mix of meat, potatoes, and veggies I like and have felt more human for the first time in a long while. I may end up going carnivore someday but I will do it when my body tells me it is time.

96440612cf0fcf366bf5ad8f776fca84

(19413)

on July 29, 2012
at 12:52 PM

Yup, when I feel like eating only meat, it's because for whatever reason, I don't feel an attraction to veggies. There are other days when I crave mixed greens, or kimchi, or whatever, I follow that craving. But yes, there were huge stretches of time where I couldn't stand to think about eating a salad or anything other than meat, and craved only meat. And other times where I craved greens, or crucifers.

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7841848bd0c27c64353c583fb7971242

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on July 28, 2012
at 11:14 PM

I'm going the opposite direction: I started off heavily carnivorous and now I'm getting less so. It will be interesting to see how I lean once the summer produce season is over, though.

I'm more and more realizing that my body tells me what it needs, if I listen. So I would say that if being highly carnivorous is making you feel great, stick with it until it doesn't. Especially since you're eating organ meats, too. I would recommend adding skin and getting regular spinach, though. Chris Masterjohn had a good post about it on his blog a while back. Oh, and some citrus or berries would be good, too, for vitamin C. Lime juice goes really nicely in beef bone broth.

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734ab9e18cde02e0a3f7466ecb4be40e

on July 29, 2012
at 02:41 AM

Listen to your own body. Just be aware of the essential nutrients you need to live and include some of them. But like I said listen to your body. Live long and prosper

96440612cf0fcf366bf5ad8f776fca84

(19413)

on July 29, 2012
at 12:50 PM

That's the beauty of organ meats and bone broths - if you consume the animal nose-to-tail, you get all the nutrients you need.

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on July 29, 2012
at 12:23 AM

I'd add some seafood and bone broth. And some more fats like coconut oil, heavy cream, and butter.

Vitamin C is a non-issue if you are ZC and/or eat fresh meat and organs.

I've been 100% carnivorous for years and have never been better. That's just me tho-but if it works for you keep it up.

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9a5e2da94ad63ea3186dfa494e16a8d1

on July 30, 2012
at 03:12 AM

When I first went paleo, I went in the same direction as you, basically I started dropping one food after another from my diet, focusing only on those that I digested well and did not give me any problems, and I ended up eating a lot of meat and eggs, with some salads.

This went on for a while, but then after a few months I kind of hit a wall. I started to lose my taste for large portions of meat and wanted something else. I am not too keen on either fruit or carbs in general so I started eating more vegetables.

I find that as long as I stick with the paleo diet in general, my body will tell me what it needs. I suspect that I needed a bit of a "reset" from the SAD diet, and a very low carb meat and eggs diet was it. But after a while my body was reset and needed a more balanced diet, and is asking for more vegetables. I have also increased carbs, primarily as sweet potatoes, and I feel great when I have them.

So I would not assume that how you feel over the past 2-3 months is how you'll feel forever, just go with it but pay attention to your body too.

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on July 29, 2012
at 04:33 PM

I'm glad you posted this. In the last 2 to 3 weeks I've also noticed a trend towards more meat simply because "I feel like it." Maybe it's the fact that it's so much easier to prepare.

I've been concerned about my vitamin/nutrient intake on the days of eating 90% steak, chicken, and eggs. I have been popping a multivitamin with the fattiest meal in hopes it supplements my diet. But I really don't know if this is good or necessary, and I'm curious to know what people think of the vitamin and nutrient value of a carnivorous diet and whether it's unsafe not to supplement it somehow.

44739854bd06eb5c32af5d33aa866864

(859)

on July 30, 2012
at 03:45 PM

Meat (grass-fed, pastured) in general is the highest nutrient content per mass of any food... I believe liver tops the list. If you eat the whole animal, muscle as well as organs/bones(broth)/fat, and add in seafood for Omega 3s (salmon, oysters) you should be fine without a multivitamin, imo.

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on July 29, 2012
at 12:03 AM

I have gone a long time on mostly meat, too. Lately I seem to be eating more fruit and potatoes. Not a lot more. The fruit is mostly strawberries and bananas in the blender with coconut milk. I've made my way through a large basket over about a month. I've been eating tons of wild mushrooms. I'm nearly sick of them now.

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