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Does fruit and starchy tubers predispose to CV disease?

Answered on August 19, 2014
Created December 12, 2011 at 3:28 AM

Paloemag mentions a study in the Winter issue which found that high sat fat diets predispose to CV disease only in the presence of high carb diets. I eat a lot of fruit and occasionally starchy tubers. I wasn't only a high sat fat diet but I was leaning to it previously. Bad idea?

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on December 12, 2011
at 05:26 PM

@Nance, lol, sounds like you're trying to sarcastically recruit Matt for the Breatharian movement. LOL +1000

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on December 12, 2011
at 05:08 PM

To each their own, I know for me that once I have a moderate amount of fat in every meal, going higher doesn't do anything except get between me and sweet potatoes, and I love my sweet potatoes. In general I'd tell people to be moderate in fat (and sat. fat), and carb intake. Moderation, what an idea.

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on December 12, 2011
at 04:26 PM

No, no! You've got it all wrong. You have to give up food AND liquids. No halfway measures for us.

96bf58d8c6bd492dc5b8ae46203fe247

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on December 12, 2011
at 04:25 PM

Hah! I did that once and my skin hurt all over and my hair was horrible. I ate more SF and the symptoms left immediately. I'm not saying you have to drown in SF but anyone who removes it is asking for big trouble since whatever troubles my skin was showing were probably happening to internal tissues as well.

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on December 12, 2011
at 04:18 PM

@Matthew - I think so!

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on December 12, 2011
at 04:09 PM

@Matt - I think some people get a slightly perverse pleasure out of it :)

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on December 12, 2011
at 04:08 PM

I eat a diet high in food.

Cf32992bfa1907147c7cdc451bba9c63

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on December 12, 2011
at 04:04 PM

No food diet. You lose mad fat.

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on December 12, 2011
at 12:20 PM

wheres the study?

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on December 12, 2011
at 03:58 AM

I believe not, but I would email Denise Minger for a quick synopsis on what the data does and does not show...

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96bf58d8c6bd492dc5b8ae46203fe247

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on December 12, 2011
at 04:32 PM

Okay, we're having fun but let's get serious for a minute.

You need to define "a lot of fruit." I say I eat a lot of fruit, but one day that's a whole grapefruit and the next it might be a fig, a date and a banana. Others might call that a low fruit diet. Most fruits are not high starch, either, although tubers are.

I'm pretty sure that the "high carb" diet alluded to in the mag would be several hundred grams or more of starchy carbs per day. As in, a large bowl of popcorn drowning in butter? A SAD meal with tons of both fat and processed starches? Repeat daily for decades?

The confusion for me might be that I have occasional sweet potatoes and, when I do, they do drown in butter. I don't actually like starch, so the butter is the treat not the sweet potato. Maybe I should quit that, but since it's like once every month or two, maybe I won't. :-))

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32f5749fa6cf7adbeb0b0b031ba82b46

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on December 12, 2011
at 04:00 PM

I swear that paleo folks won't be happy until every single food is verboten for one reason or another...

Cf32992bfa1907147c7cdc451bba9c63

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on December 12, 2011
at 04:04 PM

No food diet. You lose mad fat.

32f5749fa6cf7adbeb0b0b031ba82b46

(41747)

on December 12, 2011
at 04:18 PM

@Matthew - I think so!

96440612cf0fcf366bf5ad8f776fca84

(19463)

on December 12, 2011
at 05:26 PM

@Nance, lol, sounds like you're trying to sarcastically recruit Matt for the Breatharian movement. LOL +1000

96bf58d8c6bd492dc5b8ae46203fe247

(37227)

on December 12, 2011
at 04:26 PM

No, no! You've got it all wrong. You have to give up food AND liquids. No halfway measures for us.

0bc6cbb653cdc5e82400f6da920f11eb

(19245)

on December 12, 2011
at 04:09 PM

@Matt - I think some people get a slightly perverse pleasure out of it :)

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Cf32992bfa1907147c7cdc451bba9c63

on December 12, 2011
at 02:56 PM

High fat, high carb diets tend to be high calorie, so yes.

Eat a calorically balanced diet of veggies, fruits, n-3s, and sufficient protein and you'll be 90% of your way to a perfect diet.

And news flash, you worrying about fruit being unhealthy for you is worse for you than fruit will ever be. And you don't mention that you could solve the above problem of SF + carbs by removing the SF and leaving the carbs.

Cf32992bfa1907147c7cdc451bba9c63

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on December 12, 2011
at 05:08 PM

To each their own, I know for me that once I have a moderate amount of fat in every meal, going higher doesn't do anything except get between me and sweet potatoes, and I love my sweet potatoes. In general I'd tell people to be moderate in fat (and sat. fat), and carb intake. Moderation, what an idea.

96bf58d8c6bd492dc5b8ae46203fe247

(37227)

on December 12, 2011
at 04:25 PM

Hah! I did that once and my skin hurt all over and my hair was horrible. I ate more SF and the symptoms left immediately. I'm not saying you have to drown in SF but anyone who removes it is asking for big trouble since whatever troubles my skin was showing were probably happening to internal tissues as well.

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on December 12, 2011
at 10:04 AM

I don't think you have to worry about fruit and starchy tubers.

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