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Palatability/Sweets/IF/Carbs/Calories Hack me please

Answered on August 19, 2014
Created March 28, 2012 at 11:35 PM

I do IF and recently tried to do VLC as well (VLCIF...acronym overload...) however that didn't work at all. I've read Richards post about food reward/palatability and a lot of it resonated with me.

If I have fruit/sweet potato/chocolate throughout my eating window I notice I eat less. And I feel good. If I go VLC I eat a lot in an effort to satiate myself and yet still cave to cravings (usually a chocolate binge ugh). That's just wrong...

I'm not trying to lose 60 pounds, more like 5. "The last bit of bodyfat"

Is it better for me to abandon carbphobia, enjoy sweeter foods and let my body/mind relax into seamlessly lower calorie diet?

E7e7e1c856d4494d4a1b700b6869df90

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on May 01, 2012
at 11:18 PM

me too canis..I definitely begin to creep and more an more carbs here and there until I finally binge. My 3rd restart now. I am holding fast to VLC well around 30g /day less than 10% of calories. This time I fill with fat..not glucose..I do not eat fruit except for raspberries now and then with whipping cream..yummy. sugar is sugar..there is eveidence that fructose is worse than sucrose. google

59fa7cd87fb9d669adf21e5cf3e7ada5

on May 01, 2012
at 09:54 PM

Pretty much the same experience I had, except for the bum knee. Learn to love the carbs.

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on May 01, 2012
at 08:36 PM

Agreed -- eat whatever prevents binges. Carbs do matter for some of us, though. No matter how careful I am, eating a little bit of fruit or a sweet potato here and there invariably triggers sugar cravings, weirdly fluctuating energy levels and (often massive) sugar binges for me. As always, individual mileage does vary.

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on March 29, 2012
at 04:12 PM

Cheers, good luck

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on March 29, 2012
at 01:02 PM

well put, and thanks for your personal insight.

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50637dfd7dc7a7e811d82283f4f5fd10

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on March 28, 2012
at 11:46 PM

LC (about 50gm a day or less) worked for me when I was about 15-20lbs overweight. Since I had success and saw results, I decided "If a little worked, more will work better" and dropped even more carbs. I hit a plateau (ball park 15%bf?) and stayed there long enough to finally realize I needed to switch it up. Since then, I have added anywhere from 250 - 400 gm carbs a day and hven't stopped leaning out since. That coupled with a larger emphasis on sleep and recovery, has shown me my best results to date. This is all in addition to losing my ability to do cardio, due to a bum knee.

If you're truly just looking to finish leaning out, embrace the carbs, rest, recover.

D826ee7c5f65d509348f7fe8aeeafdd4

(368)

on March 29, 2012
at 01:02 PM

well put, and thanks for your personal insight.

50637dfd7dc7a7e811d82283f4f5fd10

(5838)

on March 29, 2012
at 04:12 PM

Cheers, good luck

59fa7cd87fb9d669adf21e5cf3e7ada5

on May 01, 2012
at 09:54 PM

Pretty much the same experience I had, except for the bum knee. Learn to love the carbs.

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06bf7b92d77f1ac1d8e3dc9d539d8254

on May 01, 2012
at 08:32 PM

The carbs don't matter.. the calories do. Eat whatever is going to prevent you from bingeing and subsequently exceeding your calories for the day.

0382fa263de4c83328dc34a56e25437f

(4238)

on May 01, 2012
at 08:36 PM

Agreed -- eat whatever prevents binges. Carbs do matter for some of us, though. No matter how careful I am, eating a little bit of fruit or a sweet potato here and there invariably triggers sugar cravings, weirdly fluctuating energy levels and (often massive) sugar binges for me. As always, individual mileage does vary.

E7e7e1c856d4494d4a1b700b6869df90

(982)

on May 01, 2012
at 11:18 PM

me too canis..I definitely begin to creep and more an more carbs here and there until I finally binge. My 3rd restart now. I am holding fast to VLC well around 30g /day less than 10% of calories. This time I fill with fat..not glucose..I do not eat fruit except for raspberries now and then with whipping cream..yummy. sugar is sugar..there is eveidence that fructose is worse than sucrose. google

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D117467bf8e8472464ece2b81509606c

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on May 01, 2012
at 09:48 PM

I'm making the transition from VLC Paleo to a more moderate approach and I am feeling GREAT. I've definitely gotten leaner and I'm really enjoying the sweet potatoes and berries (with some bananas here and there). I've noticed that if I OD on the fruit though, I'll crave sugar. Last night for example, I had an extra large banana and a bowl of strawberries PWO after having a large sweet potato and a banana pre-workout. At night, I really really wanted some Girl Scout Cookies. Just go easy on the fruit, and I think you'll do fine with more carbs. I was also afraid of them for a long time (oh noes, I can't have the sweet potato cuz it'll make me fat!!!) but now that I'm reintroducing them into my diet, I enjoy my meals more.

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