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"Overtraining" and Fruit.

Answered on August 19, 2014
Created July 09, 2012 at 8:15 PM

This question is somewhat two-fold. I am looking for some advice, and personal experiences, if possible.

First--I am a fitness competitor. I have a show in 12 weeks, which means I will be training quite intensely (sometimes twice a day). I know how you all feel about that aspect of training, and I am truly sorry, but until you compete and know exactly what it takes to get there, please don't lecture me on my training schedule. This is not my first rodeo.

Secondly--I've been LC/VLC/keto on and off for about a year now. The last time I competed, I was not VLC, but due to the training volume I assume I still reached ketosis anyway. This actually worked pretty well, and I am contemplating just going back to this way of eating as I was pretty happy with the results here.

Any other serious athletes has success with keto or vlc while training? I haven't competed while in this stage, and I am kind of skeptical that I don't need the carbs if I will be training so much.

Previously, my meal-plan was as follows:

am: chicken breast (6oz maybe), and apple and tbsp of natural almond butter pwo: usually a shake (vega) and a fruit (pear or frozen berries) lunch: 6oz bison and a BAS dinner: some other protein w steamed veggies snacks: usually berries or another shake

I have been able to tolerate eggs quite well again, as long as I don't overdo it, so I will probably have those in place of the am chicken (cause who wants to eat chicken for breakfast?). More thoughts?

EDIT: I am not so much into starchy tubers (potatoes, sweet potato, squash). It's dang hot outside, man.

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on July 10, 2012
at 07:09 AM

+1 for the phrase "swole as heck". I carb loaded yesterday and today (ok, maybe not "loaded" but ate carbs) and I feel fan-freaking tastic! I can't stop moving, I had an amazing sleep last night, and the bloating in my lower abdomen has totally vanished! Unreal.

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on July 09, 2012
at 10:11 PM

...and by backloading I would suggest continuing to eat a little fruit immediately post WO and then save some starch for your evening meal.

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on July 09, 2012
at 10:07 PM

I agree- backload your carbs if you're gonna eat them. You'll actually be able to sleep that way an a presumably hypo caloric fitness diet.

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on July 09, 2012
at 09:32 PM

You go to soccer without a meal eh? I've never been able to do that. I was thinking about rice again. I fully agree that hunger etc is less an issue w/o carbs during the day.

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on July 09, 2012
at 09:31 PM

Butter, coconut cream, coconut oil. The previous diet above didn't contain a lot of added fats (except in the meat, almond butter and avocado in the salad) that is one of my issues with it.

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on July 09, 2012
at 08:49 PM

What do you use for your fat sources? Coconut oil, olive oil, lard?

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on July 10, 2012
at 02:56 AM

Since you have time, why dont you carb load and see how you feel and look. A couple to three days of heavy carbs and protein with no fat?? I see it as a no brainer, you can not gain fat from carbs/protein over a two day period even if you ate til you puked and I would be willing to bet your muscles would love you for it. Any little bloat from excessive water could be shed in a day or two after that or minimized from the start by cutting sodium. Just load up on white rice/honey/no fat milk along with some arginine and glycerol, bet your muscles would be swole as heck. Two days after when the water comes out of ya, I bet youll look your best!

60af23519906aa54b742ffc17477c3d3

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on July 10, 2012
at 07:09 AM

+1 for the phrase "swole as heck". I carb loaded yesterday and today (ok, maybe not "loaded" but ate carbs) and I feel fan-freaking tastic! I can't stop moving, I had an amazing sleep last night, and the bloating in my lower abdomen has totally vanished! Unreal.

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on July 09, 2012
at 09:15 PM

I wouldn't say keto, but definitely carb backloading. If I go VLC too long, I get destroyed. Sleep sucks, feel like crap, and can't perform as well. However, I'm a soccer player so the aerobic/anaerobic requirements are up there (hours each day of training on top of personal workouts and physical job.)

It's interesting. I do extremely well with my physical exertion when I stay low carb throughout the whole day, but as stated, I backload and just start to eat my carbs at night (5:00-8:00 PM). I feel at max performance doing this. It also allows me to maintain damn good body composition while keeping strength levels very high.

Mornings: Athletic greens, soccer practice, then a Shake (Almond milk, protein powder, cocoa nibs, butter or coconut oil, and cinnamon) Lunch: 2 medium chicken breasts with hot sauce (Then either a workout or off to work) Dinner: Raw salad and a big piece of red meat with 2 potatoes and/or white rice Nightly Snack: Raw honey with nuts and fruit. Occasionally raw grass-fed milk.

Training two times a day isn't an issue. There are SO many variables involved. I think, as always, you have to experiment, listen to your body, document your findings, and discover what works the best for your body.

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on July 09, 2012
at 10:11 PM

...and by backloading I would suggest continuing to eat a little fruit immediately post WO and then save some starch for your evening meal.

60af23519906aa54b742ffc17477c3d3

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on July 09, 2012
at 09:32 PM

You go to soccer without a meal eh? I've never been able to do that. I was thinking about rice again. I fully agree that hunger etc is less an issue w/o carbs during the day.

1edb06ded9ccf098a4517ca4a7a34ebc

(14952)

on July 09, 2012
at 10:07 PM

I agree- backload your carbs if you're gonna eat them. You'll actually be able to sleep that way an a presumably hypo caloric fitness diet.

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