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Now that I've been doing the paleo thing I cannot eat ANY carbs...

Answered on August 19, 2014
Created July 14, 2011 at 7:38 PM

I used to be able to drink beer, eat bread, enjoy cakes and snacks no problem ever since I started this diet it only takes 1 beer/piece of pizza/sweet and I am bloated, get heart burn and almost 100% of the time results in me having awful diarrhea the next day.

Is this a result of the paleo diet? Celiacs? A deeper intestinal problem? Or is it just the food?

I go to social outings where pizza and beer are provided and to be social I partake in the fair, from now on I don't think I will be partaking.

Thanks!

EDIT: To be clear I can eat potatoes, sweet potatoes, occasional gelatto(gluten free but has some fructose), and very very rare rice without issue. This is mostly bread products and beer products.

D10ca8d11301c2f4993ac2279ce4b930

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on July 16, 2011
at 06:46 PM

The genetic lab just shows that you're genetically predisposed towards celiacs it doesn't show that you have it. Right?

531db50c958cf4d5605ee0c5ae8a57be

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on July 16, 2011
at 05:06 PM

And another thing: It is psychologically valuable to have the "disease label." Until I got lab results that confirmed my suspicions I would sometimes second-guess myself. With all the self-experimentation that goes on, it's nice to know certain unambiguous facts. No need to try a Newcastle beer once in a while "just to see." That ends badly. Every time. It was necessary for me to know that I will never again have a barley/wheat beer or eat a Chicago-style deep dish pizza. I said my goodbyes and moved on. And I'm very much ok with that.

531db50c958cf4d5605ee0c5ae8a57be

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on July 16, 2011
at 05:02 PM

Why not get the genetic test instead of a biopsy? My insurance covered it. But even if you have to pay out of pocket I believe it can be done for about $200.

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on July 16, 2011
at 01:44 PM

you don't mean carbs, you mean GLUTEN. yup. that'll happen.

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on July 15, 2011
at 03:41 AM

you partake in the "fare"

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on July 15, 2011
at 12:21 AM

I eat paleo potatoes, sweet potatoes and VERY OCCASIONALLY rice. Without problem. It appears to just be beer and bread products.

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on July 14, 2011
at 10:00 PM

That was my experience too. No official Celiac diagnosis though. (had been gluten free for 6 months before my endoscopy)

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on July 14, 2011
at 08:46 PM

I also have Celiac. I didn't know until I tried the "extreme" elimination diet that my rheumatologist suggested (which happened to be paleo). I know now that I have allergies to gluten, casein, MSG, soy and corn. I switched from beer to one or two glasses of white wine. (White wine produced in USA is largely gluten and dairy free.)

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on July 14, 2011
at 08:02 PM

I agree too. "In time you will be able to tolerate some 'good' carbs ..." Try out sweet potato, potato, squash, tapioca, maybe rice. You might not react well to those either but you can try again in a couple months, then try again couple of months after that, etc. It too me about a year and a quarter. After that long period of low carb I think there were some real changes in my body. I think now I average 75-100g of glucose a day (very little fructose).

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on July 14, 2011
at 08:00 PM

100% totally agree - this has been my experience as well, now that my gut is healed it does not like things that were probably harmful in the past.

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on July 14, 2011
at 07:51 PM

I agree. Next time, binge on sweet potato fries and pizza toppings and see if you don't feel better.

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on July 14, 2011
at 07:47 PM

Welcome to the club. I don't think it's the carbs, it's those particular foods. Last year after a awesome night out on the town involving beer and pizza, which was following by a significant amount of time on the toliet...I made the very sad leap and gave up beer, even as a cheat. You are allowing your gut to heal and then messing it up again, which probably leads to some bacterial issues. In time you will be able to tolerate some "good" carbs, but you might not ever tolerate beer again.

66974b2cb291799dcd661b7dec99a9e2

(11121)

on July 14, 2011
at 08:00 PM

100% totally agree - this has been my experience as well, now that my gut is healed it does not like things that were probably harmful in the past.

8949bf87b0e0aefcad10f29975e4fa2b

(8989)

on July 14, 2011
at 07:51 PM

I agree. Next time, binge on sweet potato fries and pizza toppings and see if you don't feel better.

47a42b6be94caf700fce9509e38bb6a4

(9647)

on July 14, 2011
at 08:02 PM

I agree too. "In time you will be able to tolerate some 'good' carbs ..." Try out sweet potato, potato, squash, tapioca, maybe rice. You might not react well to those either but you can try again in a couple months, then try again couple of months after that, etc. It too me about a year and a quarter. After that long period of low carb I think there were some real changes in my body. I think now I average 75-100g of glucose a day (very little fructose).

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531db50c958cf4d5605ee0c5ae8a57be

on July 14, 2011
at 08:11 PM

This has been my experience as well. I have celiac.

After I eliminated gluten I'd go back to pizza and beer from time to time and get an acute response, rather than the chronic problems that I'd had my entire adult life. It seems to me my body was sensitized to gluten when I was eating it in quantities; once eliminated the response was greatly elevated.

Now I don't ever consider such "relapses." I'm used to a life without beer and pizza. And the acute flare-ups are a thing of the past.

23281cfd57648fff8fc1df6d5140a0c3

(145)

on July 14, 2011
at 08:46 PM

I also have Celiac. I didn't know until I tried the "extreme" elimination diet that my rheumatologist suggested (which happened to be paleo). I know now that I have allergies to gluten, casein, MSG, soy and corn. I switched from beer to one or two glasses of white wine. (White wine produced in USA is largely gluten and dairy free.)

F1b39d4f620876330312f4925bd51900

(4090)

on July 14, 2011
at 10:00 PM

That was my experience too. No official Celiac diagnosis though. (had been gluten free for 6 months before my endoscopy)

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Af1d286f0fd5c3949f59b4edf4d892f5

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on July 14, 2011
at 09:07 PM

It's all about gut flora. Switching to a Paleo diet significantly alters your gut bacteria and most people become more sensitive to the very same foods they routinely ate previously on SAD.

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6120c989fd5b69f42a0834b69b87955b

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on July 14, 2011
at 08:00 PM

I think my belly has gotten smarter. High fructose corn syrup is in just about every restaurant food out there, and I've noticed that these days even a little of it gives me heartburn. I didn't know I had an issue with wheat until I went off of it for about 3 months, and now I get exactly what you described.

In some ways it just flat out sucks. But you know, it is way easier to stay on track when you know it just isn't worth the pain. I had the curious experience of losing all my food intolerances temporarily when I was pregnant, and it was really hard to eat well when it was an intellectual exercise rather than a visceral one. I actually am quite appreciative that the pain is returning.

I don't seem to have too much of a problem with beer, so you might want to try something other than pizza with beer and see if you still have problems.

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D10ca8d11301c2f4993ac2279ce4b930

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on July 16, 2011
at 07:02 AM

I've been sick all week long. Why? A week ago I ordered broccoli and beef from a chinese restaurant and forgot to have them use tamari sauce instead of typical wheat laden soy sauce. I honestly didn't think it was going to be a big deal until after the meal when my stomach was literally pulsating. I ran to Whole Foods and bought digestive enzymes (I usually have them on hand but I was on vacation). This isn't something I'm imagining will go away. I have no idea if I have celiacs or not. Part of me wants to get biopsied so I just know. The other part realizes that what has to be done has to be done whether there is a disease label motivating the action or not.

531db50c958cf4d5605ee0c5ae8a57be

(8878)

on July 16, 2011
at 05:06 PM

And another thing: It is psychologically valuable to have the "disease label." Until I got lab results that confirmed my suspicions I would sometimes second-guess myself. With all the self-experimentation that goes on, it's nice to know certain unambiguous facts. No need to try a Newcastle beer once in a while "just to see." That ends badly. Every time. It was necessary for me to know that I will never again have a barley/wheat beer or eat a Chicago-style deep dish pizza. I said my goodbyes and moved on. And I'm very much ok with that.

531db50c958cf4d5605ee0c5ae8a57be

(8878)

on July 16, 2011
at 05:02 PM

Why not get the genetic test instead of a biopsy? My insurance covered it. But even if you have to pay out of pocket I believe it can be done for about $200.

D10ca8d11301c2f4993ac2279ce4b930

(5242)

on July 16, 2011
at 06:46 PM

The genetic lab just shows that you're genetically predisposed towards celiacs it doesn't show that you have it. Right?

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Fe535c4994ac6176f76e1ff6d29eb08a

on July 14, 2011
at 07:46 PM

When you say youre "on paleo" does that mean zero carbs, or do you still have the occasional fruit, potatoes, etc? Definitely if you go from zero to pizza it can have some ill effects. However, if you are going from "good" carbs like fruit, to "bad" carbs like pizza and beer than it might be worth checking with your doc to see if you have something bigger going on.

4e41b76ae9c953e3af278ae8a0df65bc

(58)

on July 15, 2011
at 12:21 AM

I eat paleo potatoes, sweet potatoes and VERY OCCASIONALLY rice. Without problem. It appears to just be beer and bread products.

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F78bfa3ae7886d1ebdbcbc37c0a1b085

on July 16, 2011
at 06:24 AM

Timely question as I am feeling horrible tonight after a minor splurge of one pint of beer with my steak dinner, and a 1/2 cup gelato for dessert. Been 90% Paleo for the past two weeks (a bit of gelato three or four times) and prior to this, beer and gelato were a standard part of the rotation for me.

But now I'm sitting here feeling bloated and sick and I swear my lower abdomen is sticking out about two inches further than before dinner. Really starting to think it is the gluten that is bothering me and I'm not wanting to try beer again anytime soon ...

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on July 14, 2011
at 08:57 PM

Since going Paleo. I gain weight fast if I cheat, feel like crap too. Beer seems ok so far, forget gin and vodka. Wine is never a problem {that's good because it collect it, my biggest and only vice } I look at it this way, knowing how certain foods make me feel ( glutin is the worst) it keeps it easy to stay on track. So now when we go out I look at the stuff and see only crap, makes food choices a lot easier. I now realize how much damage I was doing to my body before Paleo. The body just doesn't want the stuff, and when the body rejects it, it's not fun. So as to answer your question most likely the grains in those foods it causes all those problems.

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on July 14, 2011
at 08:22 PM

My only problem seems to be that I gain like a couple of pounds even more that day if I do it. Haven't noticed the other effects.

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