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How is leangains for carb craving control?

Answered on September 12, 2014
Created July 20, 2012 at 3:57 AM

I have been low carb paleo for quite some time now and have stopped losing body fat for months. I have only 10-15... maybe 20 pounds of fat to lose. I'm a 34 year old female. 155 pounds, 5'9".

I'm planning on starting the leangains protocol on Monday since I'll be getting a gym membership for my birthday then. One of the issues I have with leangains is the massive jump in carbs from what I have grown accustomed to. I have never been able to control my appetite any other way and I'm concerned that I might "fall off the wagon" if I eat the required carb levels for the program.

Anyone else doing this program having issues with cravings, binges or anything similar? Or success in this area? I think I have a fear of hunger! LOL

Thanks for any tips or help!!

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on December 13, 2012
at 07:11 PM

Hi Hillary, I just started Leangains after also stalling doing paleo - low carb for last year. How is it going. Going from 25-50g carbs a day to 250 after aw workout is pretty scary.

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on July 25, 2012
at 05:14 AM

Great website by the way. What are your thoughts on a smaller eating window? I worked out at 3, finished at 5 (hour of walking and an hour of weights) then ate at 5:30 "ish". Ended my window at 9. This may end up being my work out day schedule since I was already adjusted to IF schedule. Rest day, however I ate first meal at 2:00 and closed window at 9:30. Do you think this matters? I honestly have a hard time understanding why the eating window is so long. I'm used to Fast 5 approach of 5 hours.

E6fb1d6762263b076d335f044bc8013f

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on July 25, 2012
at 05:09 AM

I think the reason it was so hard for me today was because of the quality of food i ended up eating. I had a few slices of bread and this really got me started. I need to get to the store and stock up on healthy carbs. I'm going to follow your lead and clean up that area. I have no healthy carbs in my house because I was not eating any prior.

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on July 25, 2012
at 04:55 AM

You're not kidding! I wanted NO food on my training day and today was a little rough. If only the protocol was reversed so we ate more on rest days (oops, I think I did). But I know there is a reason for it. I might need to take my hoodia on rest days. It helps with carb cravings.

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on July 25, 2012
at 04:49 AM

Thanks EDouble. Yesterday was my first visit to the gym and my work out was great. I had a really hard time eating anything after though.Then today being my rest day I felt ravenous and gave in to cravings for bread :( I'm not being hard on myself over it though because I know my muscles were starving and I also was exausted all day. Once I adjust I'll tighten up my diet.

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on July 20, 2012
at 06:34 AM

If you haven???t yet, I???d recommend checking out http://rippedbody.jp/. Andy Morgan has built a really solid site with practical explanations for implementing the LeanGains protocol.

In my experience, I didn???t find that LeanGains caused excessive carb cravings. That said, if you want to eat ???clean??? and paleo, you might have a hard time eating the recommended amount of carbs anyway. I avoided wheat and oats but upped my intake of milk, quinoa, white potatoes, and sweet potatoes greatly. When you???re eating that much food, you???ll quickly find yourself satiated and it will be hard to put away 200-400g of carbs between 1-9pm on a workout day. I was never able to eat the prescribed amount of carbs, but I did ingest enough to add some additional muscle mass over 12 weeks and burn off some fat. If anything, I had a harder time with cravings on rest days as I was trying to eat at a slight caloric deficit.

Call it ???modified LeanGains??? if you want, or don???t call it LeanGains at all since I adapted the protocol for my own use, but I think you???ll be fine if you stick with whole foods and your paleo diet. You???ll see pictures of cheesecakes and bowls of fruit loops on the LG website but there???s really no reason to go down that road if you don???t want to. And, since you???ll be eating whole foods, there???s a chance you won???t experience the carb addiction brought about by some of the additives and simple sugars in Oreos and Freetos.

Here???s what worked for me, based on the core principles of the LG protocol: -8 hour feeding window, 1-9pm, 7 days per week -Fasted weightlifting workout 3x per week, using reverse pyramid training method -BCAAs pre-workout, protein shake and high-carb meal post-workout -Higher calorie intake on workout days, slight calorie deficit on rest days -Lower fat intake on weight training days, normal paleo-level of fat intake on rest days -High protein every day, low carb on non-training days

I didn???t get ???ripped??? over the 12-week period but I did see some positive results. I???d give it a try for three months and see what happens. If you find yourself falling off the carb wagon, you can always stop. Be sure to take photos and measurements of yourself up front and periodically thereafter to track your progress.

E6fb1d6762263b076d335f044bc8013f

(80)

on July 25, 2012
at 05:14 AM

Great website by the way. What are your thoughts on a smaller eating window? I worked out at 3, finished at 5 (hour of walking and an hour of weights) then ate at 5:30 "ish". Ended my window at 9. This may end up being my work out day schedule since I was already adjusted to IF schedule. Rest day, however I ate first meal at 2:00 and closed window at 9:30. Do you think this matters? I honestly have a hard time understanding why the eating window is so long. I'm used to Fast 5 approach of 5 hours.

E6fb1d6762263b076d335f044bc8013f

(80)

on July 25, 2012
at 04:49 AM

Thanks EDouble. Yesterday was my first visit to the gym and my work out was great. I had a really hard time eating anything after though.Then today being my rest day I felt ravenous and gave in to cravings for bread :( I'm not being hard on myself over it though because I know my muscles were starving and I also was exausted all day. Once I adjust I'll tighten up my diet.

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on September 15, 2012
at 09:47 PM

I will say this, I look forward to my lower carb days on Leangains. I eat over two pounds of sweet potatoes and a few pieces of fruit on training day, and that's on top of my veggies and meats. I am so stuffed for three days of the week, that my lower carb days are almost a relief. haha

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on July 23, 2012
at 10:26 AM

I've been doing Leangains since January, eating between 1-9pm, training in the evening after a single pre-workout meal. In the last couple of weeks after reading lots about Paleo I've started to cut out wheat/dairy/legumes, relying mostly on potatoes (sweet & white), white rice and lots of fruit and veg for my post workout carbs (more difficult but not impossible to hit macros).

Previously i was eating baked beans, pittas, wraps, cereal, milk, low-fat yoghurt, cottage cheese and not much in terms of healthy fats (spoonful of omega 3 and some fatty meats). Hunger was sometimes quite bad on rest days, cravings varied & would sometimes binge on carbs.

Since cutting out most of the above and increasing my good fat intake, I've definitely noticed reduced hunger, less cravings and no urge to binge. If I fancy something sweet I'll have some berries or after a workout some sweet potato, banana, cinnamon & honey mash!

E6fb1d6762263b076d335f044bc8013f

(80)

on July 25, 2012
at 05:09 AM

I think the reason it was so hard for me today was because of the quality of food i ended up eating. I had a few slices of bread and this really got me started. I need to get to the store and stock up on healthy carbs. I'm going to follow your lead and clean up that area. I have no healthy carbs in my house because I was not eating any prior.

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on July 20, 2012
at 09:23 AM

As EDouble said, it's sooo difficult to get as many carbs in as reccomended on training days. If anything it will kill your desire for carbs.

I've also gone from low carb paleo to leangains.. So it's hard to eat paleo and leangains and get all those carbs. Most leangain people use cereal, potatoes, rice etc to get their carbs and I have to rely on sweet potato, bananas, chestnut cakes.

I tried rice one day but my blood sugar went through the roof...

I think it might actually help with your carb cravings. But then I prefer high fat and protein anyhow.

E6fb1d6762263b076d335f044bc8013f

(80)

on July 25, 2012
at 04:55 AM

You're not kidding! I wanted NO food on my training day and today was a little rough. If only the protocol was reversed so we ate more on rest days (oops, I think I did). But I know there is a reason for it. I might need to take my hoodia on rest days. It helps with carb cravings.

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on November 16, 2012
at 07:19 PM

I lift weights 5 days a week with leangains (single body parts). Does that mean it would be ok to eat high carb 5 days a week and higher fat on rest days? Does this mean it's carb cycling?

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on September 15, 2012
at 09:50 PM

Leangains is a great program. Modify it slightly to YOUR version of Paleo. For me, this basically means I keep the carbs as "Paleo" as possible and tend to keep them in the range that is comfortable to consume. With that said, I'm a huge fan of some very starchy carbs like yams, butternut squash, carrots and love my green veggies that have relatively higher levels of carbs (brussel sprouts, kale). I have no problem getting to 200 grams of carbs per day just with these. I guess if you weren't in this group and struggled to eat a single yam or serving of brussels, it might be tough.

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