For days I have been combing this site as well as Dr. Ks, Wolffs, Sissons, and anything else that comes up on a google search concerning PWO nutrition and gluconeogenesis vs carb loading.I have been VLC (in ketosis) for 6 months and making gains in size/strength while maintaining 6%-8%BF. However, I have been told I will eventually plateau although I figured I would have seen it by now.
I typically eat 1/2lb bison/lamb/6 eggs/4 slices bacon PWO. However, I don't eat for 2-6 hours after training and it has been my ONLY meal of the day. On non-lifting days, I eat around 12n and 7pm. Buffalo/lamb/salmon/organ meats with kale/chard/spinach/collards cooked in Kerrygold or raw spinach salad with an avocado. I want to stress that I eat this way because it FEELS right. I train 6 days/wk in martial arts and do "events" once/wk (tires, sleds, hammer, mace, etc.) I have not experienced ANY energy loss and on a side note, my libido has been through the roof.
So, this morning I decided to try something different. I lifted HEAVY this morning and ate within 30 min. It seems the general consensus is "1 pound of meat/1 pound of sweet potato". The best I could get down was 1/4lb of buffalo and 280g sweet potato....and I feel sick to my stomach. Anyone have ANY ideas? Am I that dif? So my question is....HOW DO YOU EAT SO MUCH AND DO YOU EVER FEEL SICK AFTERWARDS? To add a follow-up question, anyone know if it really matters if I waited till my hunger naturally strikes and I could then gorge myself and obtain all the necessary nutrients? Would the carbs specifically still convert to glucose?
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on May 02, 2011
at 02:05 PM
When i started lifting heavy it was after years of doing kettlebells/sledgehammer high-rep lower-weight exercise. My mentality was always "seeking the burn", trying to use up calories, etc. I suppose i wished i were getting stronger too but in truth I wasn't. During those days, with "the burn" so much in my mind, eating big PostWO was the last thing i wanted to do. It seemed anathema to my goal of working out.
Then i stopped all the "spinning my wheels" workouts and started lifting low-reps and heavy iron. I'm not saying one trumps the other by the way, just giving you background so you can see why my thinking, and thus ability to eat big PWO, changed. I still didn't eat really big PWO for the first couple months. Slowly though, through actually seeing the gains i made by the smaller initial increments i managed to get down my throat PWO, i just started really thinking "more more more." In the beginning i was in the 12oz protein and 12oz starchy veg (with the goal of approximately 150 grams-ish of carbohydrate content) range.
Now, of course there is a limit to the amount should eat at any time of the day post or pre-workout, and I would definitely NOT say that "one pound lean protein and one pound sweet potato" is some kind of guideline for anyone at all. I myself eat that PWO everytime. I stand 5'11" and currently weigh 173-175lbs depending on the day, what i had for dinner the night before and the myriad of other things that change our weight minute by minute. But i follow a strict paleo diet with Targeted Ketogenic Dieting as my format (essentially VLC on nonlifting days and then pre and post-lifting i take down a lot of starch) so maybe thats why i can afford to eat one pound of each of those postlifting. Othe people may find that that's too much.
No, i never feel sick after eating big postlifting. Quite the contrary, even though my body now contains two whole pounds of material that it did not just minutes before, i feel very energized and my digestion is perfect in that PWO window. Two full pounds of food down in prolly 25 minutes of time and no indigestion, no gas, no sense of fullness.
on June 08, 2011
at 06:45 AM
I love the big PWO meals :) I aim to eat 60 % of my calories PWO. Yesterday I had a little short of a pound of ground beef (raw weight), a pound-bag of frozen broccoli and 2.5 pounds of white (new) potatoes (first potatoes i think in a year). Sure it took me a while, but I didn't feel stuffed or bloated afterwards, and even though it was a substantial volume of food (I usually laugh at the plate a little bit before digging in), my digestive system seems to have taken care of it already, as it has been about 14 hours since i finished that meal, I'm starting to get hungry....(doing 16 hour daily fast).
on May 03, 2011
at 06:30 AM
I train in the morning, usually 7-7:30. I always train fasted with the exception of 5g EAA/BCAA before, another 5g half way through and another 5-10g after then I'll often not eat until 6pm. Some days I may feel hunger around 3pm so I'll have something to eat. Eat to hunger not the clock. I eat high fat adequate protein and low/zero carb. A good energy boost/ pick me up is a spoonful of coconut oil.
on May 02, 2011
at 02:27 PM
i eat 1-1.5/lb of meat at a sitting and eat 2-3 lbs a day total. i lift heavy weight 3 times a week. i'm 6' 230 with bodyfat in the mid-teens. I actually need this much meat a day to feel satiated- especially on lifting days. On workout days, i eat 2-3 potatoes and a cup or two of white rice pwo.
on May 02, 2011
at 01:39 PM
I'm a little concerned you feel sick after eating 4 OUNCES of buffalo.
Nonetheless, eat 5 ounces next week, 6 the week after that, and so on.
I started out at 3 eggs and can now eat 12 comfortably, and still remain kinda hungry.
1/2 lb. of bison PWO is not terrible, but if that is really your only meal of the day, you need to eat a lot more.