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Hack my excess protein intake?

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Created November 03, 2011 at 10:29 PM

I want to decrease my protein consumption. I eat meat at every meal and it's usually big servings. I don't want my protein to go above 80-100 g but I find that I'm consistently eating over 150 g. I'm only 5'3" and 105 lbs.
Protein and fat are currently my main source of calories. I'm doing VLC plus IF. Macros right now are about 60-70% F, 10-20% P, and 0-10% C. Looking to lose body fat and gain lean mass. I don't want answers that say "why would you limit protein?" I just feel like my body can't handle that much (I know I'm not utilizing all that protein) but I don't know where I would get my calories from. I'd like to stay as low carb as possible (currently eat full-fat dairy sometimes, eat veggies, rarely eat fruit) but I know I'll probably have to increase carb consumption if I want to lower protein. I eat meat with as much fat on them. I'd like to eat around 2000 calories but how do I eat that much without a bulk of it coming from protein? Basically, I would like suggestions on what to eat. Please don't suggest nuts as I'm trying to limit those. I'm thinking of re-introducing sweet potatoes into my diet as well. Also, I don't know if it's relevant, but when I break my fast and eat a large meal (~1200 cals consisting mostly of fat+protein), I find I'm extremely hungry like 2 hours later. Thoughts?

100fd85230060e754fc13394eee6d6f1

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on November 13, 2011
at 04:16 PM

Reducing dietary fat is not retarded if you are getting fat intake from your fat stores.

100fd85230060e754fc13394eee6d6f1

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on November 13, 2011
at 04:14 PM

Caveman, it's simply not true that gluconeogenesis is stressful.

241300786a83dcb0360f38414cf8d693

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on November 06, 2011
at 02:28 AM

Yes, I lose weight the more sweet potatoes I eat. Some of this seems water weight, as they seem to increase the efficiency of my whole digestive/eliminative system. I tend to bloat easily. Maybe the anti-inflammatory effects of sweet potatoes helps me flush my system.

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on November 05, 2011
at 04:04 AM

Protein from meat yields better satiety than fat.

6371f0ae0c075ded1b8cd30aafd4bf16

on November 05, 2011
at 02:42 AM

I eat them all the time. Workout or not. I'm 130 lb male and can't gain a lb regardless of what paleo food I eat.

6371f0ae0c075ded1b8cd30aafd4bf16

on November 05, 2011
at 02:39 AM

I don't understand this answer. Take in extra protein to increase glucose via gluconeogenesis. I think this thinking is flawed for many reasons 1. gluconeogenesis is a stressful to the body its like putting oil in your gas tank and expecting your car to refine it into gas. 2. Protein is usually more costly than a source of carbs such as a sweet potato or white rice so why not just buy some white rice and eat it. I've eaten a moderate carb higher protein diet for a year or so and leaned out quite well. Its all about keeping toxins out, good sleep and moderate exercise.

E167c0387a5f0b87bb1f2c3e6aec73a8

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on November 04, 2011
at 07:50 PM

whatever, i think you are not thinking clearly... she is having issues controlling hunger and you recommend her to limit the fat intake? brilliant! o and "immediately" = meaningless. consistency is everything. btw, wtf if you need to loose fat fast! then your diet is not working...

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on November 04, 2011
at 07:18 PM

You've missed the forest and the trees. You shift to higher fat when you get to your desired BF%, but you don't overshoot or you will gain back body fat. This should be readily apparent.

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on November 04, 2011
at 07:14 PM

The only way you gain it all back is if you overshoot with fat when you add it back in.

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on November 04, 2011
at 07:06 PM

Hrm, I wonder if this is what's going on. Coconut oil = MCT = digests fast. So maybe it's in and processed and out and then you're hungry again. Try using ghee/butter instead for a bit?

5e36f73c3f95eb4ea13a009f4936449f

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on November 04, 2011
at 06:59 PM

Ok, for me, I have to eat a pretty large steak to feel satiated. You eating 8-10 ounces of steak? Also, even though you say it is cooked in coconut oil, overall it seems a bit skimpy. You soaking the asparagus in butter? Maybe drink some heavy cream on the side.

E167c0387a5f0b87bb1f2c3e6aec73a8

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on November 04, 2011
at 06:21 PM

may i ask whats wrong with butter? it sure tastes better.

E167c0387a5f0b87bb1f2c3e6aec73a8

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on November 04, 2011
at 06:18 PM

shredded intermediately! and then what? gain it all back. Talk about not seen the forest for the trees... April, Your diet needs to induce rock solid satiety. ( essential if you are fasting,) so if you want to control your hunger Up the calories and fat.

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on November 04, 2011
at 05:06 PM

I'm considering adding sweet potatoes back into my diet. I do lift weights about 5 times a week, I walk a decent amount every day, and sprint 2-3 times a week. I run a 5K once a week. I wouldn't say that's "a lot" of cardio. I do have muscle and am slim but I just want to tone up a bit more. Thanks for the input :)

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on November 04, 2011
at 04:25 PM

April: Some people eating high fat will have a net loss of body fat *in spite of* their fat intake. If you want to just skip the slow fat reduction, skip the plateaus/stalls and just jump right to the scale moving every single day, go high protein with minimal fat. If you want it to be a long, drawn out process that ultimately fails and makes you do HP/LF anyway, try something else. I'm pretty impatient, so I'd rather do what works for making a lean person shredded immediately rather than doing what makes an obese person overweight, and then what makes them flabby, then what makes them lean...

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on November 04, 2011
at 04:06 PM

Yes, your stomach is supposed to grumble but mine was still turbulent several hours after eating and the HCL eliminated that. I was shocked at how quiet it was. I don't take HCL after every meal anymore but it definitely got things going again and if I notice a recurrence of problems in the future I'll try it again.

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on November 04, 2011
at 03:18 PM

See Gnoll's comment above. Your protein isn't high considering your carb intake is low. Protien and carbs should be considered in tandem, especially if you're ketogenic.

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on November 04, 2011
at 01:49 PM

I see why you are so focused on losing fat now, you live in superficial land. Forget the anorexic ideals people in LA have....

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on November 04, 2011
at 01:45 PM

your vlc and you IF..... at a bmi of 18.6 how much could you need to lose? just eat some carbs hey aren't going to sabotage you.

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on November 04, 2011
at 01:45 PM

your vlc and you IF..... at a bmi of 18.6 how much at could you need to lose? just eat some cars hey aren't going to sabotage you.

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on November 04, 2011
at 01:26 PM

Oh, I am not looking to restrict myself at all! I would like to keep my calories at 2000 but just want to decrease protein a bit. I want to lose FAT, not weight :)

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on November 04, 2011
at 01:25 PM

May I ask what's wrong with oil? I use ghee occasionally but mostly everything is cooked in coconut oil.

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on November 04, 2011
at 01:23 PM

So many conflicting viewpoints! Travis and Culp, if you could say "why" you have the opinions you have.

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on November 04, 2011
at 11:21 AM

no. do the exact opposite. dont trim any fat off. eat the fat. eat pastured yolks.lower your lean protein, lower your meal frequency and eliminate any starchy carbs. aim for one meal a day.

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on November 04, 2011
at 10:18 AM

Your body has an absolute need for glucose in order to make glycoproteins and proteoglycans (e.g. mucus) and to power the cells that cannot run on fat or ketones (e.g. red blood cells). This need is probably somewhere around 15-20% of calories, somewhat less in long-term ketosis. *** However, fat cannot be converted into glucose, so if you're not eating carbs, that means protein must be converted into glucose to meet your body's needs. Therefore, if you're eating less than 15% glucose in your diet, you need to eat more than your body's minimum protein requirement in order to make that glucose.

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on November 04, 2011
at 10:17 AM

Your body has an absolute need for glucose in order to make glycoproteins and proteoglycans (e.g. mucus) and to power the cells that cannot run on fat or ketones (e.g. red blood cells). This need is probably somewhere around 15-20% of calories, somewhat less in long-term ketosis.

Fat cannot be converted into glucose, so if you're not eating carbs, that means protein must be converted into glucose to meet your body's needs. Therefore, if you're eating less than 15% glucose in your diet, you need to eat more than your body's minimum protein requirement in order to make that glucose.

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on November 04, 2011
at 07:22 AM

I'll eat sweet potatoes on heavy workout days. Sound good to you?

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on November 04, 2011
at 07:20 AM

Isn't using protein for energy unfavorable? Or are you saying since it's being converted to glucose first, it's an indirect source of energy, which is okay? I'd rather be in ketosis though.

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on November 04, 2011
at 07:19 AM

Is your stomach not supposed to grumble when you're hungry...?

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on November 04, 2011
at 07:19 AM

Well today for example, I had boneless thin sliced beef chuck steak cooked in coconut oil, with asparagus. Still hungry, so I grabbed a can of wild red sockeye salmon. Still hungry, got a handful of nuts.

5e36f73c3f95eb4ea13a009f4936449f

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on November 04, 2011
at 03:55 AM

Yes, and I was questioning what you ate since it sounds like I'm running half your calories with similar items.

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on November 04, 2011
at 02:40 AM

I'd limit any excess fat that you can. Get lean cuts of steak like top round or top sirloin, grill them and trim any fat off that you see (and give it to your dog/cat if you have one). I wouldn't worry about percentages. A few pastured eggs/egg yolks is enough to hit your EFA target, so beyond that it's all excess. I think you should eat however many meals it takes to stay satiated. The worst thing you can do is, for example, go to bed hungry instead of eating some steak. Whether or not you eat some carbs is up to you, but it shouldn't really make that much of a difference.

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on November 04, 2011
at 02:10 AM

Okay, I have to say this but at 5'3" a weight of 105 seems pretty nice if you're in shape aka muscular. Could even be as low as your body wants to go. I know we never love our own body, but is it possible you're just hungry? Otherwise, you might seek trained help on the possibility of taking HCL (hydrochloric acid) which I did because of MY grumbling tummy. I felt much better almost immediately and my energy level shot up so I think food absorption may have improved. My stomach definitely takes less time to do the job and settle down after meals.

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on November 04, 2011
at 01:34 AM

If you notice in my post, my large meal is about 1200 calories. Most of my fats come from avocados, oils, and fatty cuts of meat. I eat 3 eggs every day as well.

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on November 04, 2011
at 01:33 AM

I'm limiting the amount of nuts I eat. Should I also limit oils? And could you recommended the percent of calories you think I should eat from fat? And how many meals do you think I should eat? Because I currently eat two big ones, no snacks in between. Sorry if I've overwhelmed you with questions lol.

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on November 04, 2011
at 01:30 AM

It's definitely hunger. The only cravings I get is for food. My stomach is rumbling and grumbling and it doesn't go away with water.

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00c8eb3f6e6a1884216044ca29cf868a

on November 04, 2011
at 06:05 AM

Answer: you shouldn't decrease your protein intake!

You're eating VLC, which means you don't just need protein for itself: you need extra protein to convert to glucose via gluconeogenesis. 20% protein is perfectly reasonable. Any less is likely to leave you deficient unless you add some glucose to compensate.

Our hunger drives are very good at protein targeting. If you're naturally eating the protein in your diet as part of whole, natural foods (e.g. you're not drinking protein shakes), and you're eating the protein because you want it, then the odds are good that it's because your body needs the protein. Respect that.

JS

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on November 04, 2011
at 07:20 AM

Isn't using protein for energy unfavorable? Or are you saying since it's being converted to glucose first, it's an indirect source of energy, which is okay? I'd rather be in ketosis though.

00c8eb3f6e6a1884216044ca29cf868a

on November 04, 2011
at 10:17 AM

Your body has an absolute need for glucose in order to make glycoproteins and proteoglycans (e.g. mucus) and to power the cells that cannot run on fat or ketones (e.g. red blood cells). This need is probably somewhere around 15-20% of calories, somewhat less in long-term ketosis.

Fat cannot be converted into glucose, so if you're not eating carbs, that means protein must be converted into glucose to meet your body's needs. Therefore, if you're eating less than 15% glucose in your diet, you need to eat more than your body's minimum protein requirement in order to make that glucose.

00c8eb3f6e6a1884216044ca29cf868a

on November 04, 2011
at 10:18 AM

Your body has an absolute need for glucose in order to make glycoproteins and proteoglycans (e.g. mucus) and to power the cells that cannot run on fat or ketones (e.g. red blood cells). This need is probably somewhere around 15-20% of calories, somewhat less in long-term ketosis. *** However, fat cannot be converted into glucose, so if you're not eating carbs, that means protein must be converted into glucose to meet your body's needs. Therefore, if you're eating less than 15% glucose in your diet, you need to eat more than your body's minimum protein requirement in order to make that glucose.

6371f0ae0c075ded1b8cd30aafd4bf16

on November 05, 2011
at 02:39 AM

I don't understand this answer. Take in extra protein to increase glucose via gluconeogenesis. I think this thinking is flawed for many reasons 1. gluconeogenesis is a stressful to the body its like putting oil in your gas tank and expecting your car to refine it into gas. 2. Protein is usually more costly than a source of carbs such as a sweet potato or white rice so why not just buy some white rice and eat it. I've eaten a moderate carb higher protein diet for a year or so and leaned out quite well. Its all about keeping toxins out, good sleep and moderate exercise.

100fd85230060e754fc13394eee6d6f1

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on November 13, 2011
at 04:14 PM

Caveman, it's simply not true that gluconeogenesis is stressful.

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on November 04, 2011
at 01:04 AM

Given your goal of bodyfat reduction, you should be eating protein from meat to satiety and reducing dietary fat. You shouldn't have a calorie target because you're carrying around tens of thousands of calories of potential energy that you'd like to get rid of. So long as you are eating enough nutrients (adding organs in if you're not eating them) and essential fats (the yolk suggestions are good), calories should be the last thing on your mind. When you finally get to the bodyfat level that you desire, just switch to more fat.

If you're concerned about getting too much protein at once, you could split up the lean steaks and eat 1/3 to 1/2 pound per meal instead of huge steaks at once.

This may not be what you want to hear, but this will be far more effective than what you're currently doing.

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on November 04, 2011
at 02:40 AM

I'd limit any excess fat that you can. Get lean cuts of steak like top round or top sirloin, grill them and trim any fat off that you see (and give it to your dog/cat if you have one). I wouldn't worry about percentages. A few pastured eggs/egg yolks is enough to hit your EFA target, so beyond that it's all excess. I think you should eat however many meals it takes to stay satiated. The worst thing you can do is, for example, go to bed hungry instead of eating some steak. Whether or not you eat some carbs is up to you, but it shouldn't really make that much of a difference.

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on November 04, 2011
at 01:23 PM

So many conflicting viewpoints! Travis and Culp, if you could say "why" you have the opinions you have.

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on November 04, 2011
at 01:33 AM

I'm limiting the amount of nuts I eat. Should I also limit oils? And could you recommended the percent of calories you think I should eat from fat? And how many meals do you think I should eat? Because I currently eat two big ones, no snacks in between. Sorry if I've overwhelmed you with questions lol.

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on November 04, 2011
at 04:25 PM

April: Some people eating high fat will have a net loss of body fat *in spite of* their fat intake. If you want to just skip the slow fat reduction, skip the plateaus/stalls and just jump right to the scale moving every single day, go high protein with minimal fat. If you want it to be a long, drawn out process that ultimately fails and makes you do HP/LF anyway, try something else. I'm pretty impatient, so I'd rather do what works for making a lean person shredded immediately rather than doing what makes an obese person overweight, and then what makes them flabby, then what makes them lean...

592d3411ac84aa8f08a33545433b6f8a

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on November 04, 2011
at 11:21 AM

no. do the exact opposite. dont trim any fat off. eat the fat. eat pastured yolks.lower your lean protein, lower your meal frequency and eliminate any starchy carbs. aim for one meal a day.

E167c0387a5f0b87bb1f2c3e6aec73a8

(1240)

on November 04, 2011
at 06:18 PM

shredded intermediately! and then what? gain it all back. Talk about not seen the forest for the trees... April, Your diet needs to induce rock solid satiety. ( essential if you are fasting,) so if you want to control your hunger Up the calories and fat.

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on November 04, 2011
at 07:14 PM

The only way you gain it all back is if you overshoot with fat when you add it back in.

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(39821)

on November 05, 2011
at 04:04 AM

Protein from meat yields better satiety than fat.

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(39821)

on November 04, 2011
at 07:18 PM

You've missed the forest and the trees. You shift to higher fat when you get to your desired BF%, but you don't overshoot or you will gain back body fat. This should be readily apparent.

E167c0387a5f0b87bb1f2c3e6aec73a8

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on November 04, 2011
at 07:50 PM

whatever, i think you are not thinking clearly... she is having issues controlling hunger and you recommend her to limit the fat intake? brilliant! o and "immediately" = meaningless. consistency is everything. btw, wtf if you need to loose fat fast! then your diet is not working...

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5e36f73c3f95eb4ea13a009f4936449f

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on November 03, 2011
at 10:42 PM

Boost fats then (avocados, heavy creams, butter is what I go into). You can play around with more carbs, but for most people, that ends up counterproductive.

If you're hungry after a large meal, you need to define what you mean by "large meal". Could be it's not as large as you think it is, could be you need to eat more.

Incidentally, for me for breakfast: 3 eggs + avocado + 2-3 slices of deli turkey, cooked in butter. Keeps me pretty full most of the day. Caloriewise = roughly 270+240+(90 to 135) = 600 to 645 calories (not counting the butter, so a smidgeon more). I consider that a large meal for me. Others here think it's small.

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on November 04, 2011
at 07:19 AM

Well today for example, I had boneless thin sliced beef chuck steak cooked in coconut oil, with asparagus. Still hungry, so I grabbed a can of wild red sockeye salmon. Still hungry, got a handful of nuts.

5e36f73c3f95eb4ea13a009f4936449f

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on November 04, 2011
at 03:55 AM

Yes, and I was questioning what you ate since it sounds like I'm running half your calories with similar items.

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on November 04, 2011
at 01:34 AM

If you notice in my post, my large meal is about 1200 calories. Most of my fats come from avocados, oils, and fatty cuts of meat. I eat 3 eggs every day as well.

5e36f73c3f95eb4ea13a009f4936449f

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on November 04, 2011
at 06:59 PM

Ok, for me, I have to eat a pretty large steak to feel satiated. You eating 8-10 ounces of steak? Also, even though you say it is cooked in coconut oil, overall it seems a bit skimpy. You soaking the asparagus in butter? Maybe drink some heavy cream on the side.

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on November 04, 2011
at 09:37 AM

if your hunger goes away after an hour or two consistantly and you feel satiated in general after the initial hunger wanes, you may need to do nothing but ignore it. i have the same issue with feeling hunger, but i no longer view it as a need for fuel.

i think more than a few of us experience this. oddly i am also in the "needs to loose some body fat, but not considered over weight" category.

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96bf58d8c6bd492dc5b8ae46203fe247

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on November 04, 2011
at 01:18 AM

If you don't want to eat large portions what is the barrier to eating smaller ones? You seem to have exquisitely detailed knowledge of the nutrient breakdowns, so what is stopping you from adjusting them as desired?

I usually start by planning as many calories of protein as desired then add additional fats if needed based on how I'm getting the protein. Carbs are so easily measured that they're kind of a snap and you just need to decide what totals you want and what you like.

Being hungry soon after the meal could be extremely high activity driving appetite or there could be something missing or it could be cravings vs. hunger. Very hard to know even with the info you shared.

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on November 04, 2011
at 04:06 PM

Yes, your stomach is supposed to grumble but mine was still turbulent several hours after eating and the HCL eliminated that. I was shocked at how quiet it was. I don't take HCL after every meal anymore but it definitely got things going again and if I notice a recurrence of problems in the future I'll try it again.

96bf58d8c6bd492dc5b8ae46203fe247

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on November 04, 2011
at 02:10 AM

Okay, I have to say this but at 5'3" a weight of 105 seems pretty nice if you're in shape aka muscular. Could even be as low as your body wants to go. I know we never love our own body, but is it possible you're just hungry? Otherwise, you might seek trained help on the possibility of taking HCL (hydrochloric acid) which I did because of MY grumbling tummy. I felt much better almost immediately and my energy level shot up so I think food absorption may have improved. My stomach definitely takes less time to do the job and settle down after meals.

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on November 04, 2011
at 07:19 AM

Is your stomach not supposed to grumble when you're hungry...?

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on November 04, 2011
at 01:30 AM

It's definitely hunger. The only cravings I get is for food. My stomach is rumbling and grumbling and it doesn't go away with water.

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on November 03, 2011
at 10:45 PM

Try replacing some of the meat with eggs, if you tolerate them.

I generally eat one egg meal & one meat meal for around 1600-1700 calories (my maintenance.)

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on October 27, 2012
at 04:14 AM

I used to take in crazy amouts of protein then I did some research here's what I found: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u5F9rLxPyyI&feature=plcp please respond

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on November 04, 2011
at 04:20 PM

You're that hungry cause you're skinny and eating low carb. Many of us have insatiable hunger while attempting this.

At such a low weight and since you're probably in good shape already (some muscle even though you're so small), it's very possible you could fool with your macros for years and not see any changes in your body comp. I have a BMI of 16-17 and I have persistent fat deposits that are hormonal and genetic; I've eaten all sorts of diets (high-carb vegetarian, high-carb high-fat SAD, high-protein VLC paleo) in the past few years and it's never changed my body fat % or weight distribution. If you carry fat in your hips as a woman, it's going to stay there unless you change your hormonal status by starvation or steroid injections. Or, you lipo it out, but then you might get a fat stomach. Those women with tight butts were born to be like that, it's nothing they do or eat.

If I were you I'd give up on this zero carb nonsense, eat enough potatoes to fuel your workouts and lift weights. You're perfectly slim already so perhaps to look more defined you need to build up your muscles a bit. Lifting also helps reduce body fat for many.

What do you do for exercise currently? If you're running or doing lots of other cardio, I'd stop that - it absolutely contributes to the 'skinny fat' problem for a ton of women.

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on November 04, 2011
at 05:06 PM

I'm considering adding sweet potatoes back into my diet. I do lift weights about 5 times a week, I walk a decent amount every day, and sprint 2-3 times a week. I run a 5K once a week. I wouldn't say that's "a lot" of cardio. I do have muscle and am slim but I just want to tone up a bit more. Thanks for the input :)

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on November 04, 2011
at 12:38 PM

You have a Bmi of 18.6, whats the goal in restricting yourself so hardcore? Eat some freakin carbs and live your life, you'll lose the miniscule amount of weight you need to eventually.

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on November 04, 2011
at 03:18 PM

See Gnoll's comment above. Your protein isn't high considering your carb intake is low. Protien and carbs should be considered in tandem, especially if you're ketogenic.

E5c7f14800c5992831f5c70fa746dc5c

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on November 04, 2011
at 01:45 PM

your vlc and you IF..... at a bmi of 18.6 how much could you need to lose? just eat some carbs hey aren't going to sabotage you.

E5c7f14800c5992831f5c70fa746dc5c

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on November 04, 2011
at 01:49 PM

I see why you are so focused on losing fat now, you live in superficial land. Forget the anorexic ideals people in LA have....

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on November 04, 2011
at 01:26 PM

Oh, I am not looking to restrict myself at all! I would like to keep my calories at 2000 but just want to decrease protein a bit. I want to lose FAT, not weight :)

E5c7f14800c5992831f5c70fa746dc5c

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on November 04, 2011
at 01:45 PM

your vlc and you IF..... at a bmi of 18.6 how much at could you need to lose? just eat some cars hey aren't going to sabotage you.

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on November 04, 2011
at 06:29 AM

Just eat the sweet potatoes. They are super high in nutrients and will help you lose weight. Trust me. Try them for a few weeks.

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on November 04, 2011
at 07:22 AM

I'll eat sweet potatoes on heavy workout days. Sound good to you?

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on November 06, 2011
at 02:28 AM

Yes, I lose weight the more sweet potatoes I eat. Some of this seems water weight, as they seem to increase the efficiency of my whole digestive/eliminative system. I tend to bloat easily. Maybe the anti-inflammatory effects of sweet potatoes helps me flush my system.

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on November 05, 2011
at 02:42 AM

I eat them all the time. Workout or not. I'm 130 lb male and can't gain a lb regardless of what paleo food I eat.

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on November 03, 2011
at 11:37 PM

1) reducing dietary fat is retarded. eat fat, burn fat, never be hungry
2) eating lean anything is retarded. eat fat, burn fat, never be hungry 3) avoid, nuts, any kind of oil,any kind of coconut bs. use butter instead

A) eat one BIG meal a day, 1 hr after waking up. water the rest of the day. go to sleep on an empty stomach ( hungry? then you did something wrong.next time eat more)

B)eat 5 to 6 yolks ( omelet) + some fatty steak. drink water.

C) Before your meal, eat 50 / 60gr ( more if you are active) of easy digestible carbs ( milk, sucrose, juice) avoid potatoes and rice. Favor the fructose / glucose combo instead. then eat your meal ( yolks and steak)

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on November 04, 2011
at 01:25 PM

May I ask what's wrong with oil? I use ghee occasionally but mostly everything is cooked in coconut oil.

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on November 04, 2011
at 06:21 PM

may i ask whats wrong with butter? it sure tastes better.

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on November 04, 2011
at 07:06 PM

Hrm, I wonder if this is what's going on. Coconut oil = MCT = digests fast. So maybe it's in and processed and out and then you're hungry again. Try using ghee/butter instead for a bit?

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on November 13, 2011
at 04:16 PM

Reducing dietary fat is not retarded if you are getting fat intake from your fat stores.

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