Im VLC/ZC Keto adapted. If I touch carbs, PWO refeed or otherwise, even 50g, I get these symptoms:
-Flush in the face -Foggy and sleepy -Irritable -HUNGRY
Thing is, other things besides carbs that supposedly raise insulin give me the same symptoms:
-BCAA during fasted training -Homemade meat-protein shake that has no fat (I lightly boil chicken breast, and puree it in my commercial blender), even if I take it with coconut oil -too much protein at once sitting if in liquid form -whey protein shake
I make a raw fatty beef or lamb pureed shake too, but I think raw digests more slowly than cooked, and the large amount of fat within the meat must blunt insulin. Even so, when I was taking 3 meals per day with 60g of protein in each such shake, the protein load must have created gluconogenesis and I had SOME LEVEL of the above symptoms too. Ive cut back to 30-35g of protein at a sitting, and I feel LESS hungry.
But, cooked protein, no matter how much I eat, as long as its fatty, never bothers me.
What does all this mean? Am I intolerant to carbs, or am I intolerant to high insulin?
asked byanimaleater (2432)
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on June 14, 2012
at 10:45 AM
My experience with VLC/ZC led to adverse reactions to everything you mentioned and it got to the point that anything sweet triggered the same reaction, even artifical sweeteners that weren't supposed to. I'd also feel dizzy and nauseous and just unwell in general. I thought that this all meant that insulin spikes were evil and anything that triggered them were the bane of my existence. But avoiding those triggers didn't solve all of my problems. I eventually found that IF was the best of both worlds for me. I can still dip into a ketogenic state or come out of one without the negative effects and that allows a little more flexibility for me.