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Do you have to eat carbohydrates?

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Are carbohydrates essential to health?

A4216f1b1e1f5ab3815bd91700905081

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on September 07, 2013
at 01:28 AM

Not all carbohydrate sources are grains. Almost all vegetables contain carbohydrates.

68294383ced9a0eafc16133aa80d1905

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on June 06, 2012
at 12:59 AM

From a logistical perspective, it's difficult. Most people aren't willing to pay enough attention to sustain zero carbs in the diet. Biologically the body can do it, but try going even a day without a single total carbohydrate and you will find it extremely difficult. Technically speaking, many meats contain trace amounts of carbohydrate in the form of glycogen. So, if you ate 2 lbs of chicken + steak, you're getting more than 1 gram of carbohydrate. That's just an example. Notice I said, COMPLETELY ZERO.

1dd1d4bde5b46b4c90efeadea3a96a75

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on June 03, 2012
at 02:28 AM

We probably would be fine without carbs as babies. It's likely evolved in mother's milk so we can get enough calories to allow our bodies to grow. The question is whether carbohydates are essential, and no they are not, we can live without them.

1dd1d4bde5b46b4c90efeadea3a96a75

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on June 03, 2012
at 02:25 AM

From what I understand reduction of carbs reduces requirements for nutrients. You can live completely healthily eating just meat, and there are people that do that. Think about it, you are dropped in the wild, even if you knew a few edible plants, they probably taste terrible and wouldn't provide you with enough nutrients to live. You would be after meat, veggies would be there to help stave off hunger when you are starving. The only reason veggies are so prevalent in our society is because we became farmers a few thousand years ago

1dd1d4bde5b46b4c90efeadea3a96a75

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on June 03, 2012
at 02:21 AM

thhq, What does it matter 'what the rest of the world eats to live everyday'? People do that to survive and because it's all they know. Simple fact is carbs are non-essential.

77877f762c40637911396daa19b53094

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on May 28, 2012
at 06:06 AM

Why all the rush to make glucose?

A4216f1b1e1f5ab3815bd91700905081

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on May 27, 2012
at 05:35 PM

From what I understand, it's quicker to make th necessary glucose from carbs than any other way. Or am I mistaken?

77877f762c40637911396daa19b53094

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on May 27, 2012
at 05:42 AM

Nobody needs carbs after a sprint.

77877f762c40637911396daa19b53094

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on May 27, 2012
at 05:41 AM

I think eating a ton of something, is overdoing it slightly.

77877f762c40637911396daa19b53094

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on May 27, 2012
at 05:40 AM

How does eating vegetables "make it easier"?

77877f762c40637911396daa19b53094

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on May 27, 2012
at 05:36 AM

Are you suggesting that it would have been easier to sustain zero carbs in the past?

77877f762c40637911396daa19b53094

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on May 27, 2012
at 05:33 AM

Who wants the physique of a baby? They usually look fat. Probably as a result of all those carbs. lol

5ef574d7893bc816ec52e04139e9bc09

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on May 27, 2012
at 05:03 AM

And by vegetables, she means fruits.

68294383ced9a0eafc16133aa80d1905

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on May 27, 2012
at 03:28 AM

The question says "carbohydrates." NOT the same as "grains."

5ef574d7893bc816ec52e04139e9bc09

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on May 26, 2012
at 06:42 PM

thhq: To be fair, chronic hypothyroidism is a pretty substantial punishment for elitism.

5ef574d7893bc816ec52e04139e9bc09

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on May 26, 2012
at 06:39 PM

ITT: Meat dogma.

5ef574d7893bc816ec52e04139e9bc09

(6097)

on May 26, 2012
at 06:37 PM

Furthermore, the notion of the essentiality of certain fatty acids may be flawed as well. See: Mead Acid.

5ef574d7893bc816ec52e04139e9bc09

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on May 26, 2012
at 06:35 PM

Furthermore, the notion of essential fatty acids may be flawed as well.

5ccb98f6ae42ce87e206cf3f6a86039f

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on May 26, 2012
at 06:16 PM

Your numbers are way, way, wildly way off.

5ccb98f6ae42ce87e206cf3f6a86039f

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on May 26, 2012
at 06:13 PM

thhq, Becky wrote "If you look at the traditional diets of HG societies thoughout the world, you will notice a wide variety of the amounts of carbs consumed...from near zero(inuit) to very high(kitavan). And each of them is a healthful diet...because the food is "whole"." How exactly is that "dismissive of what the rest of the world eats to live everyday"?

5ccb98f6ae42ce87e206cf3f6a86039f

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on May 26, 2012
at 06:07 PM

Sprints are paleo, marathons not so much.

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on May 26, 2012
at 05:17 PM

How many times does this myth have to be dis-proven in our community before it dies?

77877f762c40637911396daa19b53094

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on May 26, 2012
at 04:00 PM

I've had a think about and come to the conclusion that yes, I am better than them. lol

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on March 02, 2012
at 05:15 AM

And you were weaned on what, fat and protein exclusively? A special keto baby? Without carbs you wouldn't exist.

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on March 02, 2012
at 05:00 AM

?You would turn your body into a Frankengluco machine rather than eat a carb? Welcome to the new kosher mister roboto.

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on March 02, 2012
at 04:58 AM

@ mem, thank you!

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on March 02, 2012
at 04:47 AM

2 billion points for this one, Ed.

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on March 02, 2012
at 02:40 AM

-1. You're dismissive of what the rest of the world eats to live everyday. Are you better than them somehow? Think about it.

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on March 02, 2012
at 02:35 AM

Carbs are essential for health if you eat them as FOOD. People who turn their nose up at them insult most of the world's population who eat them every day to live. Not everyone gets to pick and choose which grass-fed liver they're going to eat today. I consider the anti carb sentiment a holier-than-thou attitude akin to racism.

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on March 02, 2012
at 02:26 AM

Yes. If you avoid entire macronutrient groups you have an eating disorder. That's unhealthy.

35ba1f50dad25c85ac1aa2599fe5c5cb

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on March 02, 2012
at 02:19 AM

Virtually no carbs is not the same as no carbs.

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on January 29, 2011
at 02:13 AM

While it may not be necessary to ingest carbohydrates, your body uses them both for fuel (in muscles and nervous tissue) and for participation in cellular signaling (e.g. cell surface markers like antigens, cell adhesion molecules, etc.)

99546d10b3c1774cc4bccf6f275acb40

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on February 24, 2010
at 11:27 PM

David - I don't remember reading that the inuit ate much offal, that was usually fed to the dogs along with the "lean" cuts of meat.

99546d10b3c1774cc4bccf6f275acb40

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on February 24, 2010
at 11:25 PM

Schwabbeau - I said that I "was" a member of the ZC community. I spent 2 months doing ZC but it just didn't fit with me, I didn't feel good and didn't lose any more weight to make the "denial" worth it. Have you read "Not by bread alone" by Steffansson? You can download a pdf copy from the ZC forum. It describes in detail his time spent with the inuit peoples and what they ate, when and how it was prepared and observations between the natives lack of disease, specifically scurvy vs. the diseases that were rampant with Arctic explores. Nowhere in that book does he say they ate seaweeds.

E35e3d76547b18096a59c90029e7e107

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on February 19, 2010
at 07:08 PM

Exactly, hence why carbs can be strategically useful after a workout (or pulling bison out of a pit: http://donmatesz.blogspot.com/search/label/Primal%20Potatoes). That's why carbs are protein-sparing. Of course, if you're after weight loss more than mass gain, then there's no harm in letting the body more slowly replenish its energy stores.

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on February 19, 2010
at 06:56 PM

I think Inuit get more "carb" by eating the liver of animals which will have a lot of glycogen stored in it.

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on February 19, 2010
at 06:52 PM

As far as glycogen replenishment goes, by including starch or carbs in the diet you can get a quick shunt of glycogen into the cells, otherwise I think the liver just starts churning it out on its own. The key here, is how quickly it happens, and I think carbs make it happen faster.

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on February 15, 2010
at 02:09 PM

There are those that would say that high intensity aerobic events are not paleo.

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on February 15, 2010
at 03:15 AM

Name one nutrient available in carbs but not meat. If you go to nutritiondata.com and look at most cuts of beef, they have all the vitamins and minerals you need.

118c80acf27cc770098c489e98de17a1

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on February 15, 2010
at 03:14 AM

Why all the fruit worship? Fruit is fructose, with a little fiber for harm reduction. There is NO dietary carb requirement.

E35e3d76547b18096a59c90029e7e107

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on February 14, 2010
at 06:07 PM

Schwabbeau which bit are you saying untrue? Nothing in your comment contradicts any part of my answer. At no point did I deny that the body uses carb, "just like it uses fats a[nd] protein" or that "the body is able to process each" of them. All I asserted was that that the "body doesn't need carbohydrate," which is uncontroversial, since it can synthesise glucose from amino acid or fat, but can't synthesise essential proteins or fats from carbohydrate.

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on February 14, 2010
at 05:56 PM

Please don't take this personally, but this is a horrible idea. Inuits get carbs in the form of seaweeds. I agree that it isn't a lot of carbs when compared to other societies, but it does provide the necessary micronutrients that is not provided when solely eating meat. Perhaps I'm missing the point of your post (you say you are ZC yet that you enjoy seasonal fruits w/ whipping cream) and again, please don't take my reply personally, I just don't want new folks to think that zero fruits and veg is primal/paleo.

01cb59e52ccd12110de78e5068c6e4e1

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on February 14, 2010
at 05:49 PM

Absolutely untrue. The body uses carbs efficiently just like it uses fats a proteins. Some carbs (fiber) aids in digestions. Some carbs (glucose) replenishes brain and muscle energy stores. That being said, carbs should come in the form of fruits and vegetables, not snickers bars and budweiser. There are three macronutrients for a reason, the body is able to process each, and, more importantly, the body has a specific function in mind when it processes that macronutrient.

33974ac55e5240bcc34a067a5644726c

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on February 13, 2010
at 04:09 PM

Yes but most vegetables contain virtually no carbs as compared to bread or other grain based products.

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at 03:45 PM

But it is a pain in the ass to obtain all those nutrients without the help of some vegetables.

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6426d61a13689f8f651164b10f121d64

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on February 13, 2010
at 06:21 PM

Carbs are not essential to life, but if by health you mean the optimal functioning of your body and mind, they may be essential for you. The optimum level of carbs in the diet varies between individuals, and is found by trial and error. Your optimum carb intake may be 0, or 50gm/day, or 100, or 150, or more. It depends on your individual metabolism, diet and activity level. Also, your optimum carbs may vary over time.

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on January 12, 2015
at 10:36 PM

Thank Your Informations

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on March 02, 2012
at 04:47 AM

2 billion points for this one, Ed.

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on March 02, 2012
at 04:58 AM

@ mem, thank you!

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E35e3d76547b18096a59c90029e7e107

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on February 13, 2010
at 04:11 PM

No. Your body doesn't need carbohydrate it needs nutrients, whether or not the foods out there in the world containing these nutrients also contains carbohydrate/protein/fat is arbitrary.* (Though there are some essential proteins and essential fats there are no essential carbohydrates).

That said there may be some advantages to having some carbohydrates, sufficient to limit to how long or how deep you're in ketosis, as in the long run this may be more stressful for the body than staying just out of ketosis. (Discussed here: http://high-fat-nutrition.blogspot.com/2009/11/brief-discussion-of-ketosis.html)

*Though as it happens your best bet for micronutrients in general will be meat and low carb veg, there's nothing you can't get from those that you can get from grains or starches.

01cb59e52ccd12110de78e5068c6e4e1

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on February 14, 2010
at 05:49 PM

Absolutely untrue. The body uses carbs efficiently just like it uses fats a proteins. Some carbs (fiber) aids in digestions. Some carbs (glucose) replenishes brain and muscle energy stores. That being said, carbs should come in the form of fruits and vegetables, not snickers bars and budweiser. There are three macronutrients for a reason, the body is able to process each, and, more importantly, the body has a specific function in mind when it processes that macronutrient.

E35e3d76547b18096a59c90029e7e107

(15613)

on February 14, 2010
at 06:07 PM

Schwabbeau which bit are you saying untrue? Nothing in your comment contradicts any part of my answer. At no point did I deny that the body uses carb, "just like it uses fats a[nd] protein" or that "the body is able to process each" of them. All I asserted was that that the "body doesn't need carbohydrate," which is uncontroversial, since it can synthesise glucose from amino acid or fat, but can't synthesise essential proteins or fats from carbohydrate.

118c80acf27cc770098c489e98de17a1

(118)

on February 15, 2010
at 03:14 AM

Why all the fruit worship? Fruit is fructose, with a little fiber for harm reduction. There is NO dietary carb requirement.

65125edd5aafad39b3d5b3a8b4a36bb7

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on February 19, 2010
at 06:52 PM

As far as glycogen replenishment goes, by including starch or carbs in the diet you can get a quick shunt of glycogen into the cells, otherwise I think the liver just starts churning it out on its own. The key here, is how quickly it happens, and I think carbs make it happen faster.

E35e3d76547b18096a59c90029e7e107

(15613)

on February 19, 2010
at 07:08 PM

Exactly, hence why carbs can be strategically useful after a workout (or pulling bison out of a pit: http://donmatesz.blogspot.com/search/label/Primal%20Potatoes). That's why carbs are protein-sparing. Of course, if you're after weight loss more than mass gain, then there's no harm in letting the body more slowly replenish its energy stores.

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Da3d4a6835c0f5256b2ef829b3ba3393

on March 02, 2012
at 01:56 AM

Carbs are not evil.

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on March 02, 2012
at 02:35 AM

Carbs are essential for health if you eat them as FOOD. People who turn their nose up at them insult most of the world's population who eat them every day to live. Not everyone gets to pick and choose which grass-fed liver they're going to eat today. I consider the anti carb sentiment a holier-than-thou attitude akin to racism.

5ef574d7893bc816ec52e04139e9bc09

(6097)

on May 26, 2012
at 06:42 PM

thhq: To be fair, chronic hypothyroidism is a pretty substantial punishment for elitism.

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on February 13, 2010
at 10:45 PM

Optimal health may depend on exercising intensely from time to time. Some forms of intense exercise require higher muscle glycogen stores than can be reasonably obtained with a low carbohydrate intake. One can adapt to a low carbohydrate intake for very short or very long athletic events, but for high intensity aerobic events (a 20k run or 40k bicycle time trial, for example) there is no way around the well-established biochemical fact that metabolizing carbohydrate requires less oxygen per unit of energy produced than metabolizing fats or proteins. For most well-trained people, getting enough oxygen to the working muscles is the limiter in these events. Training in a glycogen depleted state may lead to helpful adaptations, but competing without ample glycogen stores will lead to sub-optimal performance.

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on February 15, 2010
at 02:09 PM

There are those that would say that high intensity aerobic events are not paleo.

77877f762c40637911396daa19b53094

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on May 27, 2012
at 05:42 AM

Nobody needs carbs after a sprint.

5ccb98f6ae42ce87e206cf3f6a86039f

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on May 26, 2012
at 06:07 PM

Sprints are paleo, marathons not so much.

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99546d10b3c1774cc4bccf6f275acb40

(176)

on February 14, 2010
at 12:46 AM

Carbs are non-essential to good health. In fact the only good reason I can see to actively consume carbs are if you are an athlete who performs anaerobic activity. And even then only immediately before and after the activity...though I'm sure others will disagree with this. I don't carb load but I don't do HIT either...I'm more of the long walk in the sunset type.

I was a member of the Zero Carb community for a couple of months and during that time I fully embraced the ZC lifestyle. Its not for everyone, and infact it wasn't for me, though many people find peace and comfort in the simplicity of eating only meat.
I truly enjoy vegetables and participating in "gathering" activities for seasonal fruit (pick-ur-own berries). And you'll have to pry the whipping cream out of my cold dead hands...lol.

The reason why we eat these carbs is because we're acclimated to do so by our family traditions. As a result of my experiences, I no longer force my children to eat their vegetables...much to the consternation of their father ;-). If you look at the traditional diets of HG societies thoughout the world, you will notice a wide variety of the amounts of carbs consumed...from near zero(inuit) to very high(kitavan). And each of them is a healthful diet...because the food is "whole".

99546d10b3c1774cc4bccf6f275acb40

(176)

on February 24, 2010
at 11:25 PM

Schwabbeau - I said that I "was" a member of the ZC community. I spent 2 months doing ZC but it just didn't fit with me, I didn't feel good and didn't lose any more weight to make the "denial" worth it. Have you read "Not by bread alone" by Steffansson? You can download a pdf copy from the ZC forum. It describes in detail his time spent with the inuit peoples and what they ate, when and how it was prepared and observations between the natives lack of disease, specifically scurvy vs. the diseases that were rampant with Arctic explores. Nowhere in that book does he say they ate seaweeds.

01cb59e52ccd12110de78e5068c6e4e1

(260)

on February 14, 2010
at 05:56 PM

Please don't take this personally, but this is a horrible idea. Inuits get carbs in the form of seaweeds. I agree that it isn't a lot of carbs when compared to other societies, but it does provide the necessary micronutrients that is not provided when solely eating meat. Perhaps I'm missing the point of your post (you say you are ZC yet that you enjoy seasonal fruits w/ whipping cream) and again, please don't take my reply personally, I just don't want new folks to think that zero fruits and veg is primal/paleo.

99546d10b3c1774cc4bccf6f275acb40

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on February 24, 2010
at 11:27 PM

David - I don't remember reading that the inuit ate much offal, that was usually fed to the dogs along with the "lean" cuts of meat.

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on February 19, 2010
at 06:56 PM

I think Inuit get more "carb" by eating the liver of animals which will have a lot of glycogen stored in it.

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on March 02, 2012
at 02:40 AM

-1. You're dismissive of what the rest of the world eats to live everyday. Are you better than them somehow? Think about it.

77877f762c40637911396daa19b53094

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on May 26, 2012
at 04:00 PM

I've had a think about and come to the conclusion that yes, I am better than them. lol

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on May 26, 2012
at 06:13 PM

thhq, Becky wrote "If you look at the traditional diets of HG societies thoughout the world, you will notice a wide variety of the amounts of carbs consumed...from near zero(inuit) to very high(kitavan). And each of them is a healthful diet...because the food is "whole"." How exactly is that "dismissive of what the rest of the world eats to live everyday"?

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on June 03, 2012
at 02:21 AM

thhq, What does it matter 'what the rest of the world eats to live everyday'? People do that to survive and because it's all they know. Simple fact is carbs are non-essential.

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on June 02, 2012
at 01:10 PM

yes................

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on June 02, 2012
at 09:52 AM

Carbohydrates are definitely not needed for cultivating a belly like Loren Cordain's.

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on May 26, 2012
at 06:33 PM

Yes .

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33974ac55e5240bcc34a067a5644726c

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on February 13, 2010
at 02:53 PM

No. Carbohydrates contain no nutrients that you couldn't obtain otherwise. It is true that your body needs some glucose but it can produce that through glucogenesis without any carbohydrates.

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on February 15, 2010
at 03:15 AM

Name one nutrient available in carbs but not meat. If you go to nutritiondata.com and look at most cuts of beef, they have all the vitamins and minerals you need.

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on February 13, 2010
at 03:45 PM

But it is a pain in the ass to obtain all those nutrients without the help of some vegetables.

33974ac55e5240bcc34a067a5644726c

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on February 13, 2010
at 04:09 PM

Yes but most vegetables contain virtually no carbs as compared to bread or other grain based products.

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on March 02, 2012
at 02:19 AM

Virtually no carbs is not the same as no carbs.

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on March 02, 2012
at 05:00 AM

?You would turn your body into a Frankengluco machine rather than eat a carb? Welcome to the new kosher mister roboto.

5ef574d7893bc816ec52e04139e9bc09

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on May 26, 2012
at 06:39 PM

ITT: Meat dogma.

1dd1d4bde5b46b4c90efeadea3a96a75

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on June 03, 2012
at 02:25 AM

From what I understand reduction of carbs reduces requirements for nutrients. You can live completely healthily eating just meat, and there are people that do that. Think about it, you are dropped in the wild, even if you knew a few edible plants, they probably taste terrible and wouldn't provide you with enough nutrients to live. You would be after meat, veggies would be there to help stave off hunger when you are starving. The only reason veggies are so prevalent in our society is because we became farmers a few thousand years ago

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on March 02, 2012
at 04:30 AM

We have essential amino acids, essential fatty acids, . . . no such thing as an essential carbohydrate.

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on March 02, 2012
at 05:15 AM

And you were weaned on what, fat and protein exclusively? A special keto baby? Without carbs you wouldn't exist.

77877f762c40637911396daa19b53094

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on May 27, 2012
at 05:33 AM

Who wants the physique of a baby? They usually look fat. Probably as a result of all those carbs. lol

5ef574d7893bc816ec52e04139e9bc09

(6097)

on May 26, 2012
at 06:35 PM

Furthermore, the notion of essential fatty acids may be flawed as well.

5ef574d7893bc816ec52e04139e9bc09

(6097)

on May 26, 2012
at 06:37 PM

Furthermore, the notion of the essentiality of certain fatty acids may be flawed as well. See: Mead Acid.

1dd1d4bde5b46b4c90efeadea3a96a75

(180)

on June 03, 2012
at 02:28 AM

We probably would be fine without carbs as babies. It's likely evolved in mother's milk so we can get enough calories to allow our bodies to grow. The question is whether carbohydates are essential, and no they are not, we can live without them.

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on January 12, 2015
at 08:14 PM

It depends on how long you want to live. If you want to live as long as the Okinawans you sure as heck need to eat carbs. However you need to eat the right kind, such as the sweet potatoes Okinawa is famous for. Carbs with low degree of processing, low glycemic index and high fiber will extend longevity.

Past that, it depends on whether you're fat. If you are, carbs are detrimental, especially the high glycemic processed sugars and starches. Read the discussion in the attached article: below BMI 23 high glycemics are not a health problem. Above BMI 23 they are.

http://m.ajcn.nutrition.org/content/71/6/1455.full

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on January 12, 2015
at 07:33 AM

You don't need carbohydrates to live. If you don't eat carbs for converting to glucose, your body will make glucose from dietary protein instead. (Mysteriously, this is how diabetics can have high blood sugar eating nothing but meat for dinner). 

However, I feel that I do much better on moderate-carb than no-carb paleo. My energy is higher and my weight is lower. Whichever you choose, veggies should make up the bulk of your nutrition, not meat. 

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on May 27, 2012
at 05:49 AM

You need a certain amount of glucose in your diet to fuel part of your brain's energy requirements, but this glucose doesn't have to come from carbs! You can get a little from non-starchy vegetables, but the rest can be synthesized from amino acid (protein). Your brain, muscles and heart can actually function very well and even more efficiently on ketones (a by-product of fat burning).

Unless you are an athlete and are very physically active, you really don't have to eat carbs. Especially not in the amounts that are consumed in the SAD.

I believe that most people do better with 100 g or less a day and lower than 50 g a day is probably better for people with type 2 diabetes, prediabetes, PCOS, weight issues and IBS/SIBO.

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on May 27, 2012
at 03:38 AM

You don't have to. If you are eating nutrient-rich grass/fed animals,eggs, organ meats, seafood and tons of variety you don't have to.

However I think eating tons of leafy greens,vegetables, and fruit is healthy.

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on May 27, 2012
at 05:41 AM

I think eating a ton of something, is overdoing it slightly.

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on May 27, 2012
at 03:35 AM

While carbs are not strictly necessary, a modern person will have a much easier time fulfilling a total nutrient diet with the intake of carbs from vegetal sources. A 100% protein/fat diet is possible, but why not make it easier on yourself and eat some vegetables now and then?

A4216f1b1e1f5ab3815bd91700905081

(1646)

on May 27, 2012
at 05:35 PM

From what I understand, it's quicker to make th necessary glucose from carbs than any other way. Or am I mistaken?

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(6097)

on May 27, 2012
at 05:03 AM

And by vegetables, she means fruits.

77877f762c40637911396daa19b53094

(78467)

on May 27, 2012
at 05:40 AM

How does eating vegetables "make it easier"?

77877f762c40637911396daa19b53094

(78467)

on May 28, 2012
at 06:06 AM

Why all the rush to make glucose?

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on May 27, 2012
at 03:27 AM

This is a loaded question. It could be answered with many slants. My simple answer would be, TECHNICALLY, YES. However, to clarify, I believe that even on a Ketogenic Diet, carbohydrates in the form of green vegetables and the forms found in muscle Glycogen are beneficial. It's very difficult if not impossible to sustain a COMPLETELY ZERO carbohydrate diet in today's world and do so for any sustained period of time.

77877f762c40637911396daa19b53094

(78467)

on May 27, 2012
at 05:36 AM

Are you suggesting that it would have been easier to sustain zero carbs in the past?

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(5795)

on June 06, 2012
at 12:59 AM

From a logistical perspective, it's difficult. Most people aren't willing to pay enough attention to sustain zero carbs in the diet. Biologically the body can do it, but try going even a day without a single total carbohydrate and you will find it extremely difficult. Technically speaking, many meats contain trace amounts of carbohydrate in the form of glycogen. So, if you ate 2 lbs of chicken + steak, you're getting more than 1 gram of carbohydrate. That's just an example. Notice I said, COMPLETELY ZERO.

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on May 26, 2012
at 03:36 PM

Humans lived on this earth for maybe nearly 50,000 years. Out of which they farmed grains and ate them only during the last 2000 years or so.

How did they survive during the remaining years?

Herein we should try to assess whether grain consumption is essential for survival...and good health.

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(11581)

on May 26, 2012
at 06:16 PM

Your numbers are way, way, wildly way off.

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(10904)

on May 26, 2012
at 05:17 PM

How many times does this myth have to be dis-proven in our community before it dies?

A4216f1b1e1f5ab3815bd91700905081

(1646)

on September 07, 2013
at 01:28 AM

Not all carbohydrate sources are grains. Almost all vegetables contain carbohydrates.

68294383ced9a0eafc16133aa80d1905

(5795)

on May 27, 2012
at 03:28 AM

The question says "carbohydrates." NOT the same as "grains."

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