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do i still have hope for leaning out even if i can't do VLC?

Commented on October 15, 2013
Created October 15, 2013 at 3:34 AM

Although when I do VLC right, I feel great and have tons of energy and can focus just fine once I get past the withdrawal, it's very difficult for me to stick to and for me to focus and study during the detox period (I have a tendency be fine, then to cheat, then to try to get back on the wagon and start from square one OTL), especially with me taking 16 units at school and with stresses with my family, so I've added fruits and safe starches and I do fine with them and that I focus better and that my memory is better with them, but I still want to lean out. Is if possible if I can't do VLC, or should I wait until a time I'm not under so much stress (say, winter vacation) to try to cut all carbs?

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on October 15, 2013
at 06:43 PM

when sensible post. Low carb is not the only way to loss weight. Carb cycling could work for you, or just a low-ish carb intake coupled with proper exercise, sleep and stress reduction + watching calories somewhat.

To get full keto adapted it takes 3- 6 weeks in most people so unless you have that time to spare you will do better mentaly with at least some starch in your diet.

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on October 15, 2013
at 05:06 PM

I have not tried alternating vlc days/carb days, but I do intermittent fasting (all right, I don't know if a couple of skipped meals now and then and not eating anything during the day on Saturday counts) i have not measured my carb intake since going higher carb (I imagine it's quite high, since I tend to munch on fruit if I need a boost while studying) but I should probably measure them on cronometer and monitor my calorie intake...I'm female btw

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on October 15, 2013
at 05:02 PM

Studies are my number one priority, but i have so many 'clear soup" jeans I would like to fit into on ordinary days and I've been wearing looser clothing lately because I don't feel good about my figure, I've found I've been taking baby steps to minimize cheating, and I'll probably start keeping a closer eye on my calories until I'm under less stress

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on October 15, 2013
at 05:55 AM

vlc diets (carbohydrate restriction) tend to result in lower serum/plasma levels of the thyroid hormone triiodothyronine (T3), now whether that means a slower metabolism, i don't know

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on October 15, 2013
at 04:41 AM

I think it's important not to wait until a break to start eating healthy though. Yeah don't gun for big weightloss, but it'll probably come off anyway as the OP starts to eat more healthily.

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on October 15, 2013
at 04:40 AM

That's very true. I don't workout heavily, but I do some light bodyweight training 3 times a week and some HIIT 2-3 days (pretty tame stuff though) too. I also walk lots. I could easily eat 150g and still have to keep an eye on calories to avoid weight loss. I just prefer to eat more fat instead! But others are working out a lot more and may need 200g or more on workout days.

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on October 15, 2013
at 04:29 AM

IMO

LC & VLC both need to be considered in the context of a person's activity / exercise levels. What might be considered medium carb for me could be considered LC or VLC for someone who works out a lot.

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on October 15, 2013
at 04:19 AM

There are other ways of losing weight other than VLC. Some people disagree with this, but I firmly believe that calories in do matter overall. VLC makes it easier to eat less and there is possibly a small metabolic advantage (not sure about this tbh), but that doesn't mean it's the only way to lose weight. As long as your intake is less than you need to maintain weight, you will lose weight. That's just my personal opinion though.

Have you tried having low carbs days mixed with higher carb days? Some people find that a useful way to keep their weekly carb intake low whilst still getting carbs in when they feel like it. You might do low carb every other day, or maybe keep starchy veg and fruit for workout days. Other people have enjoyed having a massive carb binge once a week, but personally I think this may be a bit extreme - don't really want to be binging on anything, carbs, fat or protein!

Incidentally how many grams of carbs per day are you eating and are you male or female? I'm a woman and I find slightly more carbs better for me overall, but most days I am still 75-100g and other days up to 150g. This is not really intentional, it's just how it happens. I'm not trying to lose weight mind, but I do have to keep my calories up otherwise I do lose weight like it or not!

Also, don't assume that just because you are eating starchy veg and fruit that you carb count is high. I'm just having a quick look at my food diary, and on days when I've eaten massive amounts of taro or sweet potato and also a banana for example, I've still only eaten about 150g carbs. That's including carbs from other veg, though some people feel that the carbs in non starchy veg are less than you think (you have to subtract the fibre or something - not sure I understand tbh). Yesterday I ate 250g sweet potato at supper and my overall carb intake was still just 105g. I can hear the VLCers shouting at "how much" this is, but it really isn't when compared to SAD.

F291857fa12a0291688ea994343156dc

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on October 15, 2013
at 04:29 AM

IMO

LC & VLC both need to be considered in the context of a person's activity / exercise levels. What might be considered medium carb for me could be considered LC or VLC for someone who works out a lot.

A048b66e08306d405986b6c04bf5e8e4

on October 15, 2013
at 05:06 PM

I have not tried alternating vlc days/carb days, but I do intermittent fasting (all right, I don't know if a couple of skipped meals now and then and not eating anything during the day on Saturday counts) i have not measured my carb intake since going higher carb (I imagine it's quite high, since I tend to munch on fruit if I need a boost while studying) but I should probably measure them on cronometer and monitor my calorie intake...I'm female btw

543a65b3004bf5a51974fbdd60d666bb

(4493)

on October 15, 2013
at 05:55 AM

vlc diets (carbohydrate restriction) tend to result in lower serum/plasma levels of the thyroid hormone triiodothyronine (T3), now whether that means a slower metabolism, i don't know

F405f666c78f0c1164752900c7844a45

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on October 15, 2013
at 06:43 PM

when sensible post. Low carb is not the only way to loss weight. Carb cycling could work for you, or just a low-ish carb intake coupled with proper exercise, sleep and stress reduction + watching calories somewhat.

To get full keto adapted it takes 3- 6 weeks in most people so unless you have that time to spare you will do better mentaly with at least some starch in your diet.

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on October 15, 2013
at 01:31 PM

given enough self control or work you can lose weight eating pretty much anything. although some diets/routines are easier and more healthy than others.

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on October 15, 2013
at 04:36 AM

The stress & fatigue associated with a typical college routine do not lend themselves to fat loss.

I would recommend waiting until winter break. At this point in time, are not your studies your #1 priority?

First things first. We've got plenty of time to lose the fat later. Probably better to take things a bit slower, minimize your stress & minimize cheating. Do your best to eat closest to paleo & not gain fat or doing anything you'll have to "undo">

Good luck.

2a6025992746ff6cd4ffb6ccf0aa03fc

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on October 15, 2013
at 04:41 AM

I think it's important not to wait until a break to start eating healthy though. Yeah don't gun for big weightloss, but it'll probably come off anyway as the OP starts to eat more healthily.

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on October 15, 2013
at 05:02 PM

Studies are my number one priority, but i have so many 'clear soup" jeans I would like to fit into on ordinary days and I've been wearing looser clothing lately because I don't feel good about my figure, I've found I've been taking baby steps to minimize cheating, and I'll probably start keeping a closer eye on my calories until I'm under less stress

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