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Coming out of keto, sleeplessness and crazy dreams

Answered on August 19, 2014
Created July 01, 2011 at 12:25 AM

So, after reading some stuff on 180degreehealth, I got a little freaked out, and decided to to come out of keto, which I was thinking about doing for a while anyway. I was in keto for roughly two months, eating very low carb, with probably a once-a-week instance of taking in more than 60g (drinking cider/beer).

Anyway, now I'm taking in 6 oz of sweet potato and 2 cups whole milk, providing an extra 60g of carbs, on non workout days, and 8 oz of potato and 2 cups whole milk (72g carbs) on Work out days.

I've been eating this since Sunday, and I've had so far 4 nights of difficulty falling asleep, strange dreams, and waking up not rested after 8-9 hours of "sleep."

Has anyone else had issues with coming out of keto and sleep/insomnia? Any idea on how long it will last? If this doesn't go away within two weeks, I'll probably just go back into keto, haha.

721c5da8e761f101e04037e85f6e1236

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on July 29, 2013
at 11:15 AM

It's happened to me, too.

724ba4f39f7bbea7f74b45c0a79615f2

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on November 20, 2011
at 07:28 PM

Oh wait, ha, I think I figured it out. Post work out? Clearly, I'm not an exercise junky...

724ba4f39f7bbea7f74b45c0a79615f2

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on November 20, 2011
at 07:27 PM

Uh, I'm new here ... what's PWO?

Db4ad76f6f307a6f577e175710049172

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on November 20, 2011
at 01:28 PM

Back then I was eating carbs at breakfast, or PWO, at 5 or 6pm, and then bedtime at 10 or 11pm. I've noticed whenever I've been coming out of keto I have a ton of energy/excitability when I add carbs back in. Nowadays, I still keep it low carb, with carbs PWO and breakfast.

Db4ad76f6f307a6f577e175710049172

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on July 01, 2011
at 03:23 PM

Ketotic - I'll cut out the milk and see if that helps, did you find out what carb sources gave you problems? Ben- yea, my cortisol levels were fine until I read an article on 180 health about adrenal fatigue and low body temp, check my temp and got a cool 96.4. Kind of freaked out. I'll be back in keto within a couple weeks, just good old ruminant flesh, coconut oil, and leafy greens.

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on July 01, 2011
at 01:39 AM

I went no-plants for over three months. I slept more then than ever in my life: over 9 hours per night. never had any issues when coming out of it like you're asking, though. Glad you came out of keto (bit of balance is better I've found) but be wary of 180 health. That guy says some goofball stuff.

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on July 01, 2011
at 01:24 AM

Actually, this has happened to me too. When I used to have high carbohydrate meals now and then, I had trouble sleeping, my HR went up considerably, had nightmares, cramps and night dehydration. I suggest you to test your carbohydrate sources separately to determine which one is the culprit of your bad sleep.

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724ba4f39f7bbea7f74b45c0a79615f2

on November 18, 2011
at 07:19 PM

It might a blood sugar issue. If you're used to being in ketosis, and suddenly you're ramping up your blood sugar before bed, you're essentially a toddler with a juice box. Try doing the carbs earlier in the day and leaving more time before you go to bed. I found being super low carb did insane things to my blood sugar, and the littlest bit of anything insulogenic made me extremely excited. Licking a drop of honey off of the back of a spoon made me feel drunk.

724ba4f39f7bbea7f74b45c0a79615f2

(1968)

on November 20, 2011
at 07:27 PM

Uh, I'm new here ... what's PWO?

724ba4f39f7bbea7f74b45c0a79615f2

(1968)

on November 20, 2011
at 07:28 PM

Oh wait, ha, I think I figured it out. Post work out? Clearly, I'm not an exercise junky...

Db4ad76f6f307a6f577e175710049172

(2297)

on November 20, 2011
at 01:28 PM

Back then I was eating carbs at breakfast, or PWO, at 5 or 6pm, and then bedtime at 10 or 11pm. I've noticed whenever I've been coming out of keto I have a ton of energy/excitability when I add carbs back in. Nowadays, I still keep it low carb, with carbs PWO and breakfast.

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on July 29, 2013
at 10:39 AM

Most people (women?) sleep much better if they add a carb before bed and longer and have better dreams. This is the opposite of what men are writing above. Carb at bed time also allows more seratonin into the brain (which makes you mellow and happy and relaxed).

I had to have some potato last night after 3 days very low carb just to stay sane. If you have too much potato at bed time it can make you feel a bit hung over the next day.

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on July 29, 2011
at 02:54 AM

I experience insomnia more so while in ketosis ... but I'm an insomniac already ...

Nonetheless, here are some natural suggestions to aide in sleep:

  • Natural Calm Magnesium Supplement
  • Valerian Root (smells bad but works - decreases activity in the central nervous system)
  • Chamomille tea (no, really, it may help and it's cheap)
  • Hops in the flower form, make a tea .. or there might be a capsule form ... acts as a mild sedative and helps you to relax
  • Proper Calcium, vitamin D, and B vitamins play a role ... getting enough? (source: New Choices in Natural Healing by Bill Gotlieb/Prevention)

Alright ... that's all I know of that might help right now ... I'm planning on doing some research and a blog post later if you're interested ...

I hope you have some longer bouts of REM cycling today!

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on July 01, 2011
at 01:12 AM

Perhaps it is the milk?

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on July 01, 2011
at 01:02 AM

Hmmm. That's very interesting. I tend to sleep much better when I add carbs. I experience the reverse phenomenon, I believe, though I intend to control for caffeine-intake because that more than carb consumption might be the variable at play.

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