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Can those with better sleep tolerate more carbs?

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Created July 27, 2012 at 3:35 AM

I got to thinking about the Amish and the Kitavans - both who live relatively well with a higher carb diet. The Amish eat soaked/fermented WAPF style grains.

However both also have 2 other interesting shared correlations:

1) circadian rhythms/light's out - sleeping great

2) reduced to very little exposure EMF - electromagnetic frequency pollution

Does modern life and stress cause reduced carbohydrate tolerance?

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on July 27, 2012
at 06:14 PM

I agree with seeing overweight and obese Amish - but I don't know what they are eating per se.

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on July 27, 2012
at 01:35 PM

A fair amount of the older Amish do not appear to be quite so carb-tolerant. Plenty of overweight and even obese among the older Amish. My guess is all the shoo-fly pie, biscuits, and homemade jams and jellies eventually override whatever tolerance they had in their youth. (And then again, the overweight Amish I've seen are mostly women. Maybe the men stay more physically active into older age, doing farmwork or carpentry. The woman are not *sedentary,* mind you (cooking/gardening - on their feet a lot!), but probably not engaged in work quite as physically demanding as the men.

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at 01:33 PM

A fair amount of the *older* Amish do *not* appear to be quite so carb-tolerant. Plenty of overweight and even obese among the older Amish. My guess is all the shoo-fly pie, biscuits, and homemade jams and jellies eventually override whatever tolerance they had in their youth.

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at 05:04 AM

They both live(d) longer on everage - which is interesting, in the same way married folks living longer on average than single folks is interesting. I am not sure thats a good marker of dietary health though. Its a measure of a low-level of fatal disease, which has some connection to diet, but equally to alot of other things in western life. The big killer heart disease seems to relate to emotions.

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They both live(d) longer on everage - which is interesting, in the same way married folks living longer on average than single folks is interesting. I am not sure thats a good marker of dietary health though. Its a measure of a low-level of fatal disease, which has some connection to diet, but equally to alot of other things in western life. The big killer heart disease seems to relate to emotions. To evaluate the health of these populations, you would need more detailed information to measure and compare like blood tests, organ scans, x-rays, non-fatal disease rates,level of fitness/endurance

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at 04:55 AM

In fact when you put all those things together, to me, it makes there diet seem rather trivial, apart from perhaps their relative exclusion of odd things like untreated refined grains, veg oils and refined sugar.

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at 04:49 AM

Arent the both also very active? Modern people basically dont do anything. They also both have actual community. The amish have a beleif system (unlike us). Probably the kitavans do too, IDK. I doubt myself EMF exposure does much of anything. Community, circadian rythmns, no chemical exposue, beleif system, exercise and no processed foods is a massive list of differences in way of life. Have you heard of "rat park" BTW?

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on July 27, 2012
at 04:36 AM

I think there is definitely a link between sleep and carb tolerance. When people have shortened sleep for even just a couple of weeks they can become prediabetic. Also, there are melatonin receptors on the pancreatic islet cells, suggesting even more of a link between sleep and carbs.

These may provide some insights

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/19377888

http://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1111/j.1600-079X.2007.00519.x/full

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on July 27, 2012
at 01:23 PM

There is definitely some correlation but it's hard to say if there is causation at all. Sleep is related to so many things, first of all stress. Stress could be affecting our sleep and our carb tolerance.

About them being more active: I am not sure. If you think about it we have to do MORE things than they do. We are force to wake up EVERY day at the same time. Work 8 hours (if we are lucky) EVERY DAY. I would say they are active in a different way. It's a bit like the different stress ancient hunters would have: seldom very stressful situations; compared to our modern constant medium level stress.

Another important point is that food becomes a bit of an escape from the daily stress, hence you end up eating more, more often and more crap.

In the end, our modern lifestyle SUCKS big time and we can do our best to optimize our diet.. but food cannot be an answer to everything.

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on July 27, 2012
at 10:56 AM

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/20209158

There are a bunch of studies suggesting a strong link between blood sugar regulation/glucose tolerance and sleep quality.

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on July 27, 2012
at 05:16 AM

What if those that live more active lives can tolerate more carbs and tend to get better rest?

I think any traditional society is going to get a LOT more physical exertion in any given day than we are with our cars and purchased foods.

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