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Any carbs at all for a beginner?

Answered on August 19, 2014
Created April 25, 2011 at 2:33 PM

Hi, generally i eat gluten free and mostly protein. But i havent been much without carbs at all. Whenever ive tried to go meat and vegetable only, ive felt lethargy, weakness, dizziness, the need to sleep.

Today i started by eating raw only (some raw slices of mutton, some eggyolks in the morning, lemon juice and olive oil). At first i was feel ok and quite energetic, because at lunch i ate the same again, but then it felt like i couldnt do anything or concentrate on anything. I then cooked alittle bit of rice and had a bit of cooked mutton left i made for my bf, ate very little rice but mostly the cooked mutton. Then i felt muscle weakness everywhere and had to sleep for several hours.

Now im back up again, but still have a slight brainfog Cooked some eggwhites i had left, but wondering if going low carb was too soon?

I felt fine eating some potatoes yesterday. The cooked meat felt pretty heavy, but i never had that expeerience with cooked rice or potatoes. Is there room for leaving some rice or potato carbs in?

Db4ad76f6f307a6f577e175710049172

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on April 26, 2011
at 07:17 PM

I forgot to mention that coconut oil/ contains a good amount of MCTs. As other people said, it takes a while (think one or two weeks) for you body to transition into ketosis, and until then you'll probably feel more tired than usual. You might want to measure out you fats, or add a certain amount of coconut milk/oil or butter to you foods, just to make sure you're getting enough calories. I'd check the label on the coconut cream, you want only coconut (and maybe potassium sorbate) to be on the label. It's not that expensive to get the good stuff, I get the generic organic Whole Foods kind.

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on April 26, 2011
at 06:47 AM

Ok, ill try in a step by step way.

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on April 26, 2011
at 06:46 AM

I ate alot of olive oil, and ate the fat on the meat though there wasnt much. And i like butter. Its just that when i ate very few carbs, like my muscles went weak and i neeeded to sleep for several hour, was too weak to move. Are MCTs like coconut oil? I have that. Anyway i wonder if i have any heart problem, the coconut cream my bf uses makes me feel congested, like my heart. Ive never been overweight and been skinny all my life. Thanks for the info tho, i think ill cut back slowly on the carbs

6d69b9d6a4913823db9096f6d229f668

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on April 26, 2011
at 06:43 AM

Sorry not high meat, when i eat alot of meat i mean.

6d69b9d6a4913823db9096f6d229f668

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on April 26, 2011
at 06:22 AM

Im quite skinny. I have wheat and lactose intolerance, but not to other grains and starch. I love good fats. Ok and now im trying to just eat the yolk to see how it goes. The raw mutton was good, tastes like raw beef. Though when i go high meat, my ass really hurts. Its acidic?? How do i balance that?

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on April 26, 2011
at 06:19 AM

I got the idea from peoples writing, i mean about Paleolithic diet, that humans didnt eat starch foods til neolithic. Or maybe they were only refering to grains. Well anyway, i also want to eat some root vegetables.

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06d21b99c58283ce575e36c4ecd4a458

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on April 25, 2011
at 03:13 PM

You are experiencing your conversion of burning carbohydrates over to burning fats and that takes a while for your body to manufacture the proper enzymes to burn fat.

Dr Michael Eades, author of "Protein Power" has posted:

http://www.proteinpower.com/drmike/uncategorized/lt-frederick-schwatka-and-low-carb-adaptation/

You just have to power through so that your body knows you are serious about this low carb thing so it will adapt to burning fats.

Most everyone here has experienced this to some degree...some breeze through and some take a while.

6d69b9d6a4913823db9096f6d229f668

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on April 26, 2011
at 06:47 AM

Ok, ill try in a step by step way.

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on April 25, 2011
at 04:55 PM

Why do you think you need to eliminate carbs in the first place? Is it because you are trying to lose weight? Or is it because someone told you that Paleo is low carb?

For weight loss I can understand. However, Paleo is not necessarily a very low carb diet. Humans evolved the ability to eat and digest starches, and tubers have been part of the human diet for ages.

I only feel healthy with a significant amount of starch. I eat potatoes, sweet potatoes, jicama, taro, cassava, rutabagas, parsnip, daikon, beets, and so on. You can really have fun with root vegetables and tubers. Pair them with some fatty meat (or butter if so inclined) and you've got an extremely satisfying combination.

6d69b9d6a4913823db9096f6d229f668

(30)

on April 26, 2011
at 06:19 AM

I got the idea from peoples writing, i mean about Paleolithic diet, that humans didnt eat starch foods til neolithic. Or maybe they were only refering to grains. Well anyway, i also want to eat some root vegetables.

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Db4ad76f6f307a6f577e175710049172

on April 25, 2011
at 02:43 PM

People talk about a "carb flu" when one starts to go no-carb. It's essentially the period your body is taking to "switch fuels", from carbs to fats. This transition period is different for everyone, with some people experiencing a lot of the same things you are.

My main question is, are you getting enough fat? You have to eat a considerable amount more fat than when you were eating carbs, since fats are now your only energy source.

You could try measuring our all the carbs you eat, and start at 150g, and then decrease the amount week per week, until you get to the amount you want, although I would just go no, or less than 50g, right away. Going back to what I said earlier, you want to have your body transition into a different state, which is "ketosis". One way to get a faster transition is to eat a lot of Medium Chain Triglycerides (MCTs for short).

In short, "carb flu" is fairly common, and you might want to search around here about ketosis for more information.

6d69b9d6a4913823db9096f6d229f668

(30)

on April 26, 2011
at 06:46 AM

I ate alot of olive oil, and ate the fat on the meat though there wasnt much. And i like butter. Its just that when i ate very few carbs, like my muscles went weak and i neeeded to sleep for several hour, was too weak to move. Are MCTs like coconut oil? I have that. Anyway i wonder if i have any heart problem, the coconut cream my bf uses makes me feel congested, like my heart. Ive never been overweight and been skinny all my life. Thanks for the info tho, i think ill cut back slowly on the carbs

Db4ad76f6f307a6f577e175710049172

(2297)

on April 26, 2011
at 07:17 PM

I forgot to mention that coconut oil/ contains a good amount of MCTs. As other people said, it takes a while (think one or two weeks) for you body to transition into ketosis, and until then you'll probably feel more tired than usual. You might want to measure out you fats, or add a certain amount of coconut milk/oil or butter to you foods, just to make sure you're getting enough calories. I'd check the label on the coconut cream, you want only coconut (and maybe potassium sorbate) to be on the label. It's not that expensive to get the good stuff, I get the generic organic Whole Foods kind.

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on April 25, 2011
at 03:37 PM

That is dependent wholly upon your goals and personal tolerances.

If you get gassy or gastrointestinal discomfort from starchy foods (even the "safe" rice/potatoes/bananas), chances are you might have some intolerances.

If you are considerably overweight, than you may have some insulin sensitivity that needs to be addressed.

In both of the above cases, I would say you need to give it a few weeks before introducing any carbohydrate. You may even feel like you don't need to reintroduce carbs after a few weeks - if you do it properly and don't skimp on the fats.

To be a little critical of the way you are currently eating... egg whites are pretty much nutritionally devoid with the exception of just protein. You need fats, and the more you eat during the onset, the faster your body will begin processing fats for energy. I don't know what kind of quantity you are eating the raw mutton in (I normally can't make myself eat more than an ounce or two unless it's prepared a certain way), but your answer is to eat more, and focus on fats.

6d69b9d6a4913823db9096f6d229f668

(30)

on April 26, 2011
at 06:22 AM

Im quite skinny. I have wheat and lactose intolerance, but not to other grains and starch. I love good fats. Ok and now im trying to just eat the yolk to see how it goes. The raw mutton was good, tastes like raw beef. Though when i go high meat, my ass really hurts. Its acidic?? How do i balance that?

6d69b9d6a4913823db9096f6d229f668

(30)

on April 26, 2011
at 06:43 AM

Sorry not high meat, when i eat alot of meat i mean.

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