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50-100g of Carbs- Why, if not in ketosis?

Answered on August 19, 2014
Created January 05, 2013 at 3:06 PM

Hi!

After reading a recent thread on paleohacks, I got to wondering what Mark Sisson's requirement of 50-100g carbs for effortless weight loss stems from. Since he states that 0-50g is the level at which the dieter would be in ketosis, how is getting 50-100g of carbs different from more?

Thanks for your help!

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on January 05, 2013
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From what I understand Mark did the Forward for the new PHD book. I hear it's very good. I have the old one. They are very comparable approaches. Biggest difference is the PHD version ONLY counts carbs from fruits and starches whereas PB counts them also from veggies. You might test drive each approach for a couple of months and see what fits you best. Or you might end up at a middle ground. I do an "accidental" carb refeed about once a week when I go to an all you can eat sushi bar....so thats my middle ground, and what works for me.

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Glycolysis is the only way to live! Don't worry about medium-chain triglycerides!

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Great answer, thanks! I've actually been following paleo very strictly since August, but have been just blindly following the common recommendations. I've dropped all fructose from my diet, and severely limited starchy carbs, so I usually get somewhere in that range. However, recently I've become interested in the PHD and was wondering where that fits or clashes with other interpretations of the paleo diet.

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Well stated. +1 for even including a disclaimer!

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3846a3b61bc9051e4baebdef62e58c52

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on January 05, 2013
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Cause you don't need to be in ketosis to lose weight, but limiting carbs still helps with appetite suppression and improved metabolic health. As does making certain your getting enough protein. Really I eat in the 50-100g range most the time. It takes a real effort for me to get more carbs in.

You may wanna read the Primal Blueprint if you really wanna know why Mark Sisson recommends things.

On here your going to get a range of theories....from "its all bunk don't worry about carbs!" to "ketosis is the only way to live"! I think the PB rec's are pretty easy to work with and will do the job for the vast majority.

Disclaimer - When I say vast majority I'm talking about the 60+% of Americans (that we know of) suffering from metabolic syndrome and sitting on their sedentary back sides. Specific athletic endeavors require specific tailoring.

3327924660b1e2f8f8fc4ca27fedf2b2

(2919)

on January 05, 2013
at 06:22 PM

Glycolysis is the only way to live! Don't worry about medium-chain triglycerides!

6f4425e3c7dc0efe60da531c5d991487

(373)

on January 05, 2013
at 03:40 PM

Well stated. +1 for even including a disclaimer!

46cca8ea7b1325c286c470182aef053b

(111)

on January 05, 2013
at 04:34 PM

Great answer, thanks! I've actually been following paleo very strictly since August, but have been just blindly following the common recommendations. I've dropped all fructose from my diet, and severely limited starchy carbs, so I usually get somewhere in that range. However, recently I've become interested in the PHD and was wondering where that fits or clashes with other interpretations of the paleo diet.

3846a3b61bc9051e4baebdef62e58c52

(18635)

on January 05, 2013
at 08:57 PM

From what I understand Mark did the Forward for the new PHD book. I hear it's very good. I have the old one. They are very comparable approaches. Biggest difference is the PHD version ONLY counts carbs from fruits and starches whereas PB counts them also from veggies. You might test drive each approach for a couple of months and see what fits you best. Or you might end up at a middle ground. I do an "accidental" carb refeed about once a week when I go to an all you can eat sushi bar....so thats my middle ground, and what works for me.

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