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Do any of you follow Wolfgang Lutz's carbohydrate recommendations?

Answered on August 19, 2014
Created May 01, 2013 at 11:54 PM

I have been reading about how low carb diets can help inflammatory bowel disease, and since I still haven't found remission with the paleo diet or SCD diet, I am thinking about cutting my carbohydrates a lot. Lutz recommends 72 grams of carbs a day in his book "Life without Bread." In his study, he found that ulcerative colitis improved on this level- but no more.

I was eating between 180-200 grams of carbs per day before I started researching him and this has been since August 2012. I cut it down to 140 grams the past few days, and today about 120 grams. I am so dizzy and lightheaded already at this level and it is still a very high amount of carbs.

How do I avoid these side effects? I started eating cheese again and drinking kefir to replace the carbs. I have Lutz's book on order right now and am hoping he has strategies in his book about going low carb.

Even if you don't follow the 72 grams, I definitely need tips on how to do super low carb.

The only foods that I can't eat are eggs, chicken, and starches. Besides that, I eat all the other paleo foods.

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on June 14, 2013
at 06:41 AM

Now I'm really trying to relax and have plenty of sunlight during the day, I also have a ZMA suplement before bed and I take a spoon of sea salt with water because I've felt that on low carb I do lose water and minerals a lot, just saying if I add 150+ carbs a day I can gain 2kg... seems that it's helping with hydration during night. I can sleep 7h like this which maybe is not as optimal as 8h but I least I wake up refreshed, on high carbs I do not!

048dd52752c45129c1212bfffb37ca72

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on June 14, 2013
at 06:39 AM

Just saw this, although it has been a month now. How're doing? I'm usually between 60-100 gr carbs a day and my cravings are a lot better than when in carbs, and IF is easier (although I don't do more than 12h fast from early dinner at 7AM to breakfast). Don't know if you do it already but a breakfast with a lot of protein (40 to 70 gr) should kill cravings during at least all the morning. Then a light lunch and a good dinner 4h before sleep should help. I also slept bad at first but I think that because I have high cortisol levels at night.

089dd41b18fbb95ebb5347cded708d98

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on May 14, 2013
at 01:50 PM

Oh its too easy! Mainly bananas, avocados, pineapple, coconut products. Dates sometimes but they are a true carb bomb.

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on May 13, 2013
at 02:44 PM

how do you get to 180g of carbs on paleo?!?!

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on May 13, 2013
at 01:07 PM

is it all fruit?

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on May 13, 2013
at 01:06 PM

how do you get to 120g carbs while avoiding starches?

089dd41b18fbb95ebb5347cded708d98

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on May 02, 2013
at 02:57 AM

great idea!! yeah, i am trying to replace fruit calories with more yogurt and cheese, but i do eat 1 avocado a day- it's my favorite fat. i should probably add coconut butter since i've heard good things about how filling it is. i just got a delivery of beef liver in a few days ago and have yet to use it. i'll make some meatloaf this weekend with the liver.

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on May 02, 2013
at 12:32 AM

And make sure to eat liver & other organ meats. It's easy to get mineral-depleted on a vlc diet, unless you pay attention.

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on May 02, 2013
at 12:31 AM

Try some avocado (if you can tolerate it) for potassium. Also make sure you are eating enough calories!

089dd41b18fbb95ebb5347cded708d98

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on May 02, 2013
at 12:28 AM

thanks astrum. yeah, i agree about not cutting too fast. i think i'll stay at 120 grams for a week or so and then drop to 100. i had no clue how high carb my diet was until i started counting. drinking a bottle of coconut water as i type this haha

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on May 02, 2013
at 12:26 AM

thanks dragonfly. i have some magnesium oil upstairs that i use every day. i'll double up on that. i eat a lot of salt since i have very low blood pressure. today it was 88/53 and i'm worried.

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on May 02, 2013
at 02:41 AM

I will be honest with you - I do not know anything about Lutz, but I am kind of doubting this whole inflammation theory when it comes to food intolerances. Sure, bad carbs are still bad, but the Perfect Health Diet has been helpful to many people.

In five days when my immunity was down I ate all kind of cr@p (not that I am proud), but my stomach did not bother me one bit. So much for inflammation. Then I had anti-giardia medication and now I am rebuilding my gut flora. I know it is a long process and it is going to take some time but I had tons of white rice in the last two days and again my stomach did not give me any problems.

Maybe, only maybe, it is the gut flora after all?

I am not asking this to refute others, I am just seeking for answers for myself. And every answer I find is somehow connected to gut flora. I wonder how many people, who suffer from IBD, IBS, food allergies and FODMAP intolerances have had their gut flora checked?

All this time I was suffering from SIBO, giardiasis, dysbiosis - when I looked at my bacteria - my gosh - I did not even know things like that existed in nature!

So I am not sure what exactly you are up against now and therefore I am not qualified to give you any advice but I think you will be able to figure something out once you know more about your gut flora.

In my case 2 months of meat only, 1.5 years of Paleo and 4 months of strict auto-immune Paleo did not resolve the issue, although helped me tremendously.

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on May 02, 2013
at 12:02 AM

Magnesium supplementation can help with the dizziness. I suggest 400-600 mg Mag Citrate (if you have any constipation issues), or Magnesium Glycinate.

Also make sure you are getting enough salt and water.

I eat under 100 gm of carbs a day. Today was about 60.

089dd41b18fbb95ebb5347cded708d98

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on May 02, 2013
at 02:57 AM

great idea!! yeah, i am trying to replace fruit calories with more yogurt and cheese, but i do eat 1 avocado a day- it's my favorite fat. i should probably add coconut butter since i've heard good things about how filling it is. i just got a delivery of beef liver in a few days ago and have yet to use it. i'll make some meatloaf this weekend with the liver.

Ce41c230e8c2a4295db31aec3ef4b2ab

(32564)

on May 02, 2013
at 12:32 AM

And make sure to eat liver & other organ meats. It's easy to get mineral-depleted on a vlc diet, unless you pay attention.

Ce41c230e8c2a4295db31aec3ef4b2ab

(32564)

on May 02, 2013
at 12:31 AM

Try some avocado (if you can tolerate it) for potassium. Also make sure you are eating enough calories!

089dd41b18fbb95ebb5347cded708d98

(5635)

on May 02, 2013
at 12:26 AM

thanks dragonfly. i have some magnesium oil upstairs that i use every day. i'll double up on that. i eat a lot of salt since i have very low blood pressure. today it was 88/53 and i'm worried.

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on May 01, 2013
at 11:58 PM

Take it really, really slow. 120 grams isn't that low--but you're used to so much more. Don't drop it any more until you stop feeling the 'low carb flu,' AND feel stable for a few days. Then, try to keep it at minimal increments. Helping bowel issues is of course important, but don't make yourself more sick over it.

Oh, also, find a way to get more potassium into your diet. Low carb can easily throw electrolytes off, though I don't feel like that should be an issue at 120, but who knows! i'm not a doctor.

089dd41b18fbb95ebb5347cded708d98

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on May 02, 2013
at 12:28 AM

thanks astrum. yeah, i agree about not cutting too fast. i think i'll stay at 120 grams for a week or so and then drop to 100. i had no clue how high carb my diet was until i started counting. drinking a bottle of coconut water as i type this haha

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089dd41b18fbb95ebb5347cded708d98

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on May 13, 2013
at 01:00 PM

Update:

I've been following a lower carb diet now since I posted this question. I've been managing about 100 grams a day.

Stuff that is annoying: 1. hungry ALL the time. need double the calories that i was eating when i was doing high carb. i've already gained a few lbs since may 1st! at this rate, i don't know if i can afford low carb as i am going through a ridiculous amount of grass fed meat/fish, tuna in olive oil, coconut oil, nut butters, coconut butter, avocadoes, olives, kefir/yogurt, raw cheeses. i get most of my carbs from 1.5-2 bananas a day and some berries/zucchini.

yesterday, i easily had 4000 calories and i still woke up starving this morning.

  1. cannot sleep at all. i used to get 6 or 7 hours a night and the past few nights it has been 3 hours. i wake up at 5 am STARVING even though i just finished my meal at 9 pm. i can't get back to sleep at all because all i wanna do is eat. i even started leaving my jar of coconut butter and a spoon on my nightstand- is that ridiculous?

  2. intermittent fasting is impossible. before this, my eating window has been 4-5 hours a day for about the past 8 months and now my eating window is ALL freaking day (seriously- no time is off limits).

  3. breaking out like crazy- on my face, arms, chest. my skin is usually pretty clear.

can anyone comment on this? i thought low carb was supposed to be more satiating that high carb and make you feel great. i'm wondering if it's because carbs take up more space in your stomach than proteins/fats.

with that said, if i didn't have a GI disorder, i would IMMEDIATELY go back to how i was eating, but this way has been proven to help with my symptoms. so i will stick it out and see what happens- just not sure how much longer i can go if i see no improvement in GI symptoms. dr. lutz says it can take up to 8 years...

048dd52752c45129c1212bfffb37ca72

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on June 14, 2013
at 06:39 AM

Just saw this, although it has been a month now. How're doing? I'm usually between 60-100 gr carbs a day and my cravings are a lot better than when in carbs, and IF is easier (although I don't do more than 12h fast from early dinner at 7AM to breakfast). Don't know if you do it already but a breakfast with a lot of protein (40 to 70 gr) should kill cravings during at least all the morning. Then a light lunch and a good dinner 4h before sleep should help. I also slept bad at first but I think that because I have high cortisol levels at night.

048dd52752c45129c1212bfffb37ca72

(3150)

on June 14, 2013
at 06:41 AM

Now I'm really trying to relax and have plenty of sunlight during the day, I also have a ZMA suplement before bed and I take a spoon of sea salt with water because I've felt that on low carb I do lose water and minerals a lot, just saying if I add 150+ carbs a day I can gain 2kg... seems that it's helping with hydration during night. I can sleep 7h like this which maybe is not as optimal as 8h but I least I wake up refreshed, on high carbs I do not!

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